"Jia Wenhe should have given you a lot of information from the West. What do you think?" Cao Cao asked.

"Through the information given by Jia Wenhe and some aristocratic families, I probably have an understanding of the situation in the West. If it hadn't been verified by multiple parties, I would really not believe that there is such a powerful country in the far west." Liu Bei smiled bitterly. He shook his head and said.

"Today we know that we are just frogs in the well. We are still clinging to the Han Dynasty, but Yuan Jiujiu has set his sights on the whole world. Regarding the Qin Dynasty, oh no, it should be said that it is Rome and Parthia. These two empires are actually It has been recorded in the Han Dynasty, but we didn't pay attention to it. After all, the distance is too far, and we thought that the outside world outside the Han Dynasty was a foreign land with a harsh environment." Cao Cao sighed.

"Since the current Han Dynasty can no longer accommodate the Han Dynasty, then I will go to the west and rebuild another one. In any case, the Han Dynasty will eventually become orthodox, and my descendants will come back in the future. By then, there will be only one empire in the world, that of the Han Dynasty. ." Liu Bei clasped his hands and said solemnly.

"You really talk about righteousness and orthodoxy. Could it be that you lied so much that you even deceived yourself?" Cao Cao looked at Liu Bei's high-sounding appearance and couldn't help but sneer: "We are all sensible people. What is orthodox? Xia, Shang and Zhou? Or Qin? The change of dynasties is a natural cycle. Is there anything in this world that remains unchanged forever?"

"Have you forgotten all this because you were honored by the Han Dynasty and received the favor from the Han Dynasty? Since you regard yourself as a general who conquered the West, don't you still have a sincere heart for the Han Dynasty?" Liu Bei asked back. In fact, to a certain extent, , he and Cao Cao are the same kind of people, but they are completely opposite. Cao Cao has a Han in his heart but no Han in his mouth, but he talks a lot about Han and has no Han in his heart.

"I admit that the teachings I received since childhood and the environment I lived in made me loyal to the Han Dynasty. Even when I was in power and held the emperor hostage, I still had a glimmer of hope and awe for the Han Dynasty. But now I have I have seen through. The Han Dynasty brought about its own destruction due to its own corruption. We have tried our best. I, Cao Mengde, am not the general of the Han Dynasty, but the general of the Han people. A mere big Han is not enough to restrain me. After I look beyond this circle, big men really don't matter to me." Cao Cao said frankly.

"Xuande, I know that you are using the banner of Han and orthodoxy to win more loyal people to your side and win the hearts of the people. Although I am disgusted and disdainful of this, I also appreciate it. A person pretends to be benevolent and righteous. Throughout his life, he has been truly benevolent and righteous. And I, a true villain, will naturally be a villain throughout my life. People in the world are so ignorant that they cannot see the essence of things clearly, let alone you and me. But it doesn’t matter, I can have some heroes as my confidants, and I will be a villain throughout my life. That's enough. I, Cao Mengde, am never afraid of others misunderstanding me."

"Mengde, is the Han Dynasty really irrelevant to you?" Liu Bei sighed.

"When I first welcomed the Han Dynasty, it was not just for the so-called coercion of the emperor to command the princes, but I really felt loyal to the Han Dynasty. If the emperor is virtuous and all officials are upright, I might not be able to conquer the West alone. A general opens up territory and expands his territory, and one day he will succeed and retire to right the emperor." Cao Cao looked at Liu Bei sincerely.

When Liu Bei heard this, his eyes were slightly closed. He knew that what Cao Cao said was not false. This traitor in the eyes of the world was once loyal to the Han Dynasty. Otherwise, Xun would not have chosen him.

"However, the emperor has disappointed me so much. He ignores the general situation and only strives for power and gain. He does not have the slightest regard for someone's loyalty and merit. He only regards someone as a traitor like Dong Zhuo and is always on guard against him. You treat your ministers like earth and mustard.

I regard you as an enemy, and how can I be loyal to the Emperor since the Emperor betrays me?" Cao Cao said coldly.

"The emperor is young and came to power hastily. In addition, Dong Zhuo's disaster just happened not long ago, so it is normal for him to act in extreme ways." Liu Bei explained.

"He is not extreme, but stupid. Even if the emperor is stupid, the so-called loyal ministers who surround the emperor are just as stupid." Cao Cao said bitterly: "If he is just wary, I can understand it.

But in the situation where a pack of wolves was waiting for me, they not only secretly carried out cholera attacks and assassinated me, but also collaborated with foreign enemies to hinder a certain expedition at a critical moment. If I hadn't been prepared, I would have been killed.

Poisonous hand."

"What are they thinking? I don't think I'm disrespectful at all. Do they think that I, Cao Cao, am a treacherous minister like Dong Zhuo just because I refuse to hand over my military power? If I, Cao Mengde, can't do something, do they think that other princes can do it?

Can they do it? They don’t even know what they are. A group of women and children, how can one person lead an army to fight? If I hand over the military power, I am afraid that all the foundations I have built in a few months will be given away.

People. They will fall into the hands of others and continue their journey to prosper the Han Dynasty."

Cao Cao's heart was full of anger. For the emperor, the first step in the so-called revival of the Han Dynasty was to destroy Cao Mengde. This was a very disappointing thing for him.

When Liu Bei heard this, he remained silent. Frankly speaking, if he were in Cao Cao's position, he would probably...

This kind of contradiction cannot be reconciled at all. The emperor's officials are incompetent, but Cao Mengde has the ability and power. How can this be tolerated by the emperor? If Cao Mengde is allowed to act, even if Cao Mengde conquers the world, it will still belong to him, the emperor.

The world? But if the emperor wants to seize power, Cao Mengde cannot tolerate it. Seizing the world is inherently cruel, and his power is weak and there is little hope. If he leaves it to these losers, it will be equivalent to completely cutting off hope.

Cao Cao is not to be blamed for this, he can only blame fate. An emperor with no power, no ability, and no ambition, met a capable minister like Cao Mengde who was not foolish and loyal, and in the end he could only turn the capable minister into a traitor.

"The emperor chose me because my surname is neither Liu nor Yuan, and I am weak and easy to control. But he did not see clearly what kind of person he is. With such an emperor, what hope does a man have? Since Emperor Ling, several emperors have

There is no one who has succeeded, which means that the strength of the Han Dynasty has been exhausted. Once the kings of Xia, Jie and Shang Zhou are born, the country's destruction is inevitable." Cao Cao sneered.

Liu Bei's face darkened, and he couldn't help but explain: "Actually, that's not the case. The reason why the emperor has no virtue does not mean that the Han Dynasty is about to die. The emperors are unwise and unorthodox, so it is not impossible to choose another virtuous king to support them."

"Choose another virtuous monarch?" Cao Cao sneered: "Who should I choose? The two sons of Emperor Ling are dead, and there is no longer any orthodoxy. All the direct lineage members of the Han Dynasty who were slightly virtuous were killed by Li Ru, who can you choose? Now, who can you choose?

The most qualified one is you, Liu Xuande, should I choose you? I, Cao Mengde, recognize you as my king and will bow my head and obey your orders?"

"Bei has little talent and little knowledge. He is from a humble background. He is not qualified for this. The person Bei is talking about is Duke Bo'an. You know his virtues and talents. He is definitely qualified and capable to succeed the emperor of the Han Dynasty." Liu Bei looked serious.

"Liu Yu is indeed virtuous and capable, but he is too old. Moreover, his son is also a mediocre person, so I am afraid there will be another dispute. Xuande, I know what you mean, but Cao has made up his mind to establish another family.

From now on, the Han Dynasty has nothing to do with me, but we are still our closest allies." Cao Cao said firmly.

"Brother Meng De, is there really no discussion?" Liu Bei said unwillingly.
Chapter completed!