"Where did Brother Meng De go?" The team suddenly became a little quiet. It was still a little uncomfortable for Chen Mo, who was used to the lively atmosphere, but the people around him obviously did not dare to answer casually anymore, so Chen Mo could only speak to Cao Cao.

"Friends meet each other and go to Luoyang." Cao Cao has a familiar personality. The two of them are not convenient to speak, so they simply jumped into Chen Mo's car and sat side by side with him.

"It just so happened that I went to Luoyang to study, so I can go with Brother Cao." Chen Mo became interested when he heard this and began to ask Cao Cao for some key points of governing.

Cao Cao was the prime minister in Jinan, not afraid of the powerful and honest, and was honest and wise. Chen Mo admired the most of this kind of person. However, after Cao Cao took office for a year, he resigned from his post. Chen Mo guessed that he was probably the same as his teacher.

One of them has been a career in the officialdom, and the other is knowledgeable at a young age. He is implicit and restrained, not exaggerated, and does not have the feeling of high self-esteem. He is easy to get along with others and has unique insights. He talks happily along the way, which is very meaningless and regrets that he meets too late.

"Young Master, Mr. Cao, eat some fruit." Juan'er handed it to Chen Mo and Cao Cao with the fruit plate.

"Juan'er also called me sir. I'm a friend of your son. You can call me Mr. Cao. No one has called me for many years." Cao Cao looked at Juan'er's well-behaved look and joked.

Chen Mo: “…”

After getting familiar with each other, he found that Cao Cao was not only knowledgeable, but it was not difficult to understand. Isn’t his teacher also a gentleman in front of others? But in private, he is also quite humorous and shameless.

"Cao...Mr. Cao..." Juan'er bowed and dared not follow the young master in front of outsiders, as if others would laugh at the young master's style.

"Brother Mengde, don't bully Juan'er, come and eat some fruits. Brother Mengde has been away from Qingzhou for two years, and it's just right to taste it." Chen Mo smiled and pulled Cao Cao's attention back.

"Yes, it's been two years, and Cao's reputation in Qingzhou is not very good!" Cao Cao picked up a fruit, shook his head and sighed.

He offended the powerful and powerful Jinan at that time. At that time, many gentry even fled elsewhere and only came back after he resigned.

"This kind of favor has both advantages and disadvantages. Now it seems that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages." Chen Mo sighed when he heard this. As Cao Cao said, although Chen Mo admired him very much, in fact, even today, Cao Cao was mostly scolding among the scholars in Qingzhou.

"Oh?" Cao Cao picked up a green fruit and threw it into his mouth, so sore that it hurts a little. He looked at Chen Mo and said with a smile: "My brother thinks which one is better, the rule of law or the rule of virtue?"

"After all, it's still man's rule." Chen Mo looked at the great river in the distance: "The advantage of rule of law is that there is law to follow. But everything is too much or too little, and it cannot be generalized. However, the advantage of rule of virtue is to save manpower. However, if you teach personal morality too much, people will change. To put it inappropriately, human nature is selfish. What we scholars have learned is to eliminate these bad roots in human nature. But even those with high moral character, how many people dare to say that they are selfless?"

Chen Mo picked up his pen and drew a Tai Chi ball on the shaft of the car, and said with a smile: "Looking at the ancient and modern times, dynasties, at the beginning of their establishment, most of them experienced wars and sufferings. Just like the Yangji in Tai Chi, most of the ancestors wanted to make the dynasty strong. If the emperors were wiser in the first few generations, they would have made more achievements. But just like this Tai Chi, the Yangji sounds, after the first generation, some disadvantages of virtue governance emerged. They rely too much on the consciousness of human nature. If human nature is upward,

It is good, but how can human nature always be upward without external constraints? There is actually a way to govern virtue, which is to restrain it through public opinion and morality, but this power is too weak, and sometimes, the so-called high morality can actually be forged. For example, although I have not yet left Qingzhou, my reputation has begun to exist. This is public opinion. To say a villain, I am useless and it has reached Brother Meng De's ears, which is probably the same as it is now."

"The descendants of people with high moral character may not be virtuous, and people will always have some selfishness. Even people with high moral character hope that their descendants can live a better life. In this way, they will build momentum for them and let them enter the official career. Of course, most of them are talented people, but there will always be bad. The second generation will not be too powerful, but what about the third generation? The fourth generation? In order to make their descendants blessed, everyone joins forces to help each other build momentum and form a party. There are more and more bad people, and the new Yin will become bigger and bigger!"

"So what about the rule of law?" Cao Cao's expression gradually became serious with his relaxed expression.

"Like this." Chen Mo drew another circle and then drew a bar in the middle: "Good and evil are clearly distinguished, but this is impossible."

"It takes a lot of manpower." Cao Cao groped his chin and nodded, "And as you said, those bad things will always appear due to human nature. They will keep trying to destroy this line. Once it is destroyed, the result..."

"Yes, the sky collapses and the earth breaks!" Chen Mo sighed and said, "From the current situation, it is still possible for a state or even a county to implement the rule of law, but the premise is that the king must be a hero, and every generation is."

That is impossible.

Cao Cao sighed and said, "What my brother said is quite novel, but if you think about it carefully, you will never leave the great way. In this way, will virtue be better?"

"There is no better, only the worst." Chen Mo smiled and said, "From the pre-Qin period to the present, countless sages have been seeking better methods as their brothers said. The Han laws are not bad today. Unfortunately, problems are easy to arise during implementation, such as more and more unjust cases in various places. In fact, many times, it is to worry that these affect political achievements and make things hastily done. Even if you know, it is difficult to eliminate. What is even more difficult to eliminate is the hearts of people. If you blindly seek the law, you will easily break it. But if you just use virtue, you will easily appear as hypocritical people. When you go to Luoyang this time, Mo also hopes to find the best answer."

Cao Cao looked at the Tai Chi diagram, then looked at another pattern, and then sighed for a long time, "Although Cao was so crazy, how old was his virtuous brother, he was far inferior to his virtuous brother in terms of talent and learning. He was ashamed. Today, he would be taught by Cao."

"I dare not, but I just have a lot of free time, so I have time to think about these things." Chen Mo said with a smile.

"Ziyuan is so unsatisfied with his disciples?" Cao Cao raised his eyebrows and said with a smile.

"My master said that when my predecessors write books, they are more about understanding the ways of their predecessors, rather than memorizing them by rote." Chen Mo said with a smile.

The bearded man next to Chen Mo's frame laughed and said, "This Mr. Ziyuan is worthy of being a famous scholar. This is quite reasonable. In fact, this reading may not be useful. Many scholars may not know much about me and other illiterate people."

Chen Mo and Cao Cao just smiled when they heard this. Dalang, who was holding a knife, turned his head to look at him and said leisurely: "Don't misunderstand, most of my young masters can recite the books they can find. You are a person who doesn't even know what kind of face you have to say this?"

The air around him fell into embarrassment again, and the heroic smile on his bearded face seemed to be frozen...
Chapter completed!