Academician Ni is very thin, not good-looking, but he is particularly energetic. He is wearing a shirt, ordinary, not famous brands, and cannot apply patches. Anyway, he is like an ordinary university teacher.

Ma Xiaoyun quickly stood up and shook hands: "Hello Academician Ni, I am Ma Xiaoyun who contacted you on the phone. He is currently the general manager of the Information Department of EDI Center, a subsidiary of the Ministry of Foreign Economic and Trade. This is Song Weiyang, chairman of Xifeng Company. Boss Song has been acquainted with you for a long time, so I want to come and see you."

"I don't dare to pay a visit," Academician Ni said with a smile, "Boss Song is one of the leading figures in the domestic beverage industry. He beat Coca-Cola and Pepsi to retreat step by step. I have known each other in the newspaper."

Song Weiyang said: "Academician Ni just calls me Xiao Song. In the beverage industry, Xifeng has to continue his efforts. At present, it has surpassed Pepsi in the domestic market. Our next goal is to defeat Coca-Cola!"

"Young people have ambition!" Academician Ni praised and said to Ma Xiaoyun, "I also know Xiaoma. I helped found People's Daily last year, and I am also a loyal netizen of People's Daily."

"I'm very honored." Ma Xiaoyun said.

Song Weiyang called the waiter over and asked Academician Ni to order dishes, and then ordered two more meat dishes himself.

Before the food was served, Academician Ni asked Ma Xiaoyun: "You just mentioned the edi center. What kind of institution is this? Is it also related to the Internet?"

Ma Xiaoyun explained: "EDi is a way to use computers to process business. It can use an internationally recognized standard model to form structured transaction processing data and exchange data through the Internet. This project was initiated by the United Nations and is being promoted by various governments. In the future, international transactions can be carried out online, and even customs tariffs can be settled online. China is fully responsible for technology in this area."

"This project is very good," Academician Ni exclaimed. "Technology can change the way of human life and the way of international trade. If the project is successful, Xiaoma, you are the hero of the country."

Ma Xiaoyun said modestly: "I dare not take the role of the hero. I am just responsible for the technology, and it depends entirely on the promotion of leaders at all levels."

Academician Ni talked to Ma Xiaoyun for several minutes on the Internet, and naturally talked about computers. He said: "Chinese people must have their own computer operating system, otherwise they will be choked and will rely on others for anything they do in the future."

"It's true." Ma Xiaoyun echoed.

Song Weiyang suddenly said: "Academician Ni, I have opened a technology company and am preparing to manufacture and sell computers."

"Fight business with Lenovo?" Academician Ni asked with a smile.

"I have this idea," said Song Weiyang. "After all, Lenovo is China's largest computer manufacturer, and competition is inevitable. But my goal is not to defeat Lenovo, but to make a real domestic computer, at least a large part of the hardware needs to be domestically produced."

"If computers are domestically produced, chips must be domestically produced!" said Academician Ni.

"It's very difficult." Song Weiyang said.

"It's very difficult," said Academician Ni, "but we have to take the first step."

Song Weiyang shook his head and said, "I'm not saying that it's difficult to make chips, but that even if the chip is made, it's difficult to commercialize subsequently. A chip that cannot be commercialized is just a waste chip, worthless."

Academician Ni closed his smile and asked, "Do you also support the 'trade and industry technology'?"

Song Weiyang said: "'Trade and Industry' is nothing wrong with 'technology', and there is no essential difference between 'technology' and 'technology'. What really needs to be blamed is to leave the word 'trade' in front of commercial interests and forget that there is still 'technology'. Huawei does not distinguish between 'technology' and 'trade and industry'. They started their own business by being an agent, and they did not lose technology while developing the market. They also temporarily lost technology research and development in the face of profit difficulties, just to survive. What route can you define for Huawei?"

Academician Ni asked: "Did Huawei also make computers? I have never heard of this company."

Song Weiyang was sweating wildly, and he could only blame Huawei for being too low-key!

Not only Academician Ni, many people have never heard of Huawei. When Li Yuzhuo, vice president of Sitong, changed jobs last year, President Duan Yongji asked: "Where are you going?" Li Yuzhuo said: "Huawei." Duan Yongji said: "Huawei? I haven't heard of it. This company is not very famous, right?"

Song Weiyang explained: "Huawei is a communication equipment company with a turnover of tens of billions of yuan last year. Just two months ago, Boss Ren, of Huawei, took the initiative to reduce his equity to 1%, and increase the equity of management and employees to 70%. At the same time, President Ren set rules in the internal documents of the company that more than 10% of Huawei's annual profits must be used to invest in technology research and development."

"This company has a promising future!" Academician Ni exclaimed, "If I have the chance, I will definitely communicate with that President Ren."

Song Weiyang said: "Huawei uses trade to provide funds for technology and accumulates strength for trade. Can you say it is 'technology, industry and trade' or 'trade technology'? It is hard to tell the difference! If you have to make a difference, it is to put it into an exaggeration, and it has changed from conceptual differences to factional struggle."

Academician Ni was silent and said after a long time: "It's true. But someone has done too much and must put the brakes on him."

"Then let's talk about chips," Song Weiyang did a lot of homework in advance and asked, "If China independently develops chips, can you bypass technical patents? The patents of the x86 system have been almost registered by Intel."

Academician Ni said: "So I want to bypass the x86 system and make embedded chips."

Song Weiyang also said: "Okay, China can make embedded chips for now, but who can I sell them to? Buyers must develop product prototypes based on your chips. Do I have such companies in China? No! So no one buys them because they are useless and can only be thrown into the garbage dump."

This is something Academician Ni has never considered it. He only cares about technology, regardless of business or market.

Academician Ni was stunned for a long time and gritted his teeth and said, "Then I will make a chip first, and then make a board around this chip! Now there are always companies willing to cooperate, right?"

Song Weiyang smiled and said, "Okay, I believe Academician Ni can make both chips and boards, but who is willing to buy them? Intel has Microsoft systems to support them. Do you ask those companies to develop computer systems by themselves in order to buy your chips and boards? Even if you develop computer systems by yourself, there is no software for you! Do you still have to make software by yourself, or let others do supporting software with empty talk?"

Academician Ni was stunned.

Song Weiyang said: "This is an ecosystem, not just chips and public boards. If any businessman finds Academician Ni and swears that he can make chips, public boards and operating systems, then this person must be a bastard with ulterior motives! He has only one motivation, which is to deceive the country's policy allocations!"

There was such a bastard in history.

This person graduated from Harbin Institute of Technology and started a company with a professor at Harbin Institute of Technology to do outsourcing business for Motorola. Later, the company was merged into Hitachi Group as a whole. The project of Hitachi Group failed, and this person had already saved up a R&D team in his hands, eager to find new business, so he set his sights on Academician Ni.

When Academician Ni saw the other party's R&D team, he was immediately happy. He didn't have any shares, and helped him run through policies and funds, and ran out of the national 863 project, just to build China's own chips.

Academician Ni didn't know that while he was busy with projects, this person was busy fighting for power and profit - kicking out the two company veterans, allowing his younger brother and sister-in-law to each hold 35% of the shares. Academician Ni ran around all day and called on the R&D personnel to work day and night, and the country's large amount of policy-based funds were supported. However, this person was busy bypassing the country's listing and secretly ran to the Cayman Islands to register a new company. The company's legal person (the professor at Harbin Institute of Technology) suddenly found that his office was gone one day at work.

The funniest thing is that many patriotic companies have voluntarily left the Intel camp and wanted to use China's independent chips. As a result, when they came to discuss cooperation, they were rejected by this person. They only had government orders and looked down on the small-scale quarrels of these companies.

The main person in charge of the chip project is Academician Ni and Liu Qiang. This person also sowed the disagreement, saying that Liu Qiang was his niece, which led to Academician Ni deliberately alienating Liu Qiang for a long time. Later, Liu Qiang was confused when he heard about this. He had no relative at all!

This person took the country's policy funds and refused to invest in the subsequent research and development of chips. Instead, he went to Xiaolingtong to build buildings and do real estate. The country's 863 project was withdrawn as soon as it was said, but this person didn't take the government seriously at all, and it turned it into a farce known to all nationwide, and it was hard to understand.

After a long time, this guy's nationality is actually Canada...

Academician Ni did not get a penny from it. He worked hard for several years, but in the end he got flirted with it because he came up with the whole project.

"After you say that, China can't develop its own chips?" Academician Ni asked extremely depressedly.

"It's very difficult and needs to be done step by step." Song Weiyang said.

Academician Ni said: "Tell me, what do you think."

Song Weiyang said: "The company I started is doing Xiaolingtong, which is a mobile phone that uses solidified networks. I want to use the money I earn from mobile phones to support the computer R&D team. We don't rely on the country, we do it ourselves. At the beginning, we don't get involved in chips, we first do other research and development, assemble and sell branded computers, and slowly accumulate strength. We can also make the boards around Intel's chips, develop the motherboards they designed, and finally make the chips! This time is temporarily set to be ten years."

"It won't be long to use ten years to make chips," said Academician Ni.

Song Weiyang said: "My factory is located in Shenghai, but I want to set up a R&D center in Zhongguancun. Please ask Academician Ni to serve as the chief engineer."

Academician Ni did not immediately refuse: "I think about it again."

Song Weiyang said: "I invested 10 million yuan in the R&D center in Zhongguancun in advance, and 10% of the company's annual profit will be used for R&D in the future."

"Well," Academician Ni was obviously moved. He said, "Boss Song, I will give you a reply after Lenovo's matter is resolved."
Chapter completed!