The debate in Qinglong Temple is still going on.
Sometimes the purpose of debate is to clarify the truth, but sometimes it is not. Just like the saying goes, "Don't shout loudly when you are justified", but many times it is "the child who cries gets milk."
Is it a contradiction? In fact, it is not a contradiction either.
Just like Lu Yu, the moment seems to be for debate, but not entirely for debate.
Lu Zhi is an upright person, but he is not infinitely upright.
The same is true for Lu Yu.
Lu Zhi would speak out when he encountered someone he didn't like. Even if he offended the emperor and eunuchs, he would not be afraid, but he would feel that the momentum was wrong and return home angrily.
As for Lu Yu, it’s almost the same...
But both father and son have a problem, that is, they only think that "clear flow" is the last word.
The problem is that in this world, clear water is not a "hard truth" at all. It's like many people like to comment on something from a high position, but they don't know that most of the time, it is only half a bucket of water that makes the water slosh more. These Han Dynasty
A person who is a pure critic, whatever title he gives himself, just thinks that he is such a person, so he gives more and more advice to the country and speaks passionately.
In the early days of Qingliu, it was true that it was worried about the country and wanted to help the big men. However, any organization that can generate profits will inevitably inevitably be speculators who come for profit. If they cannot be vigilant, they will naturally become a tool for fighting for power.
Times are developing and society is advancing. The whole world is in the chaos of great changes, not only Guanzhong Sanfu, but other places are also changing.
The Xuzhou, Yanzhou and Yuzhou areas are among the gentry areas in Shandong and are relatively close to Guanzhong. Jizhou is across the Taihang Mountains. Although the straight-line distance is relatively close, transportation and other aspects are even more inconvenient.
These places that are closer to the Sanfu area in Guanzhong are naturally more affected by Feiqian. If the originally relatively simple and stable production relations are disrupted or even destroyed, they will first appear in these areas. Jingzhou refugees can be regarded as
This was the largest wave of refugees in recent times. Since then, there has been no such large-scale refugee wave, but small-scale escapes of civilians in groups of twos and threes still occur in these areas.
When the people in these areas were subjected to the triple exploitation of usury, land labor rent, and industrial and commercial scissors, they were gradually drained of their flesh and blood, unable to maintain themselves, and either chose to take risks or flee.
Coupled with the intentional or unintentional propaganda arranged by Fei Qian before, the infiltration and promotion of the New Taoism of the Five Gods, and the prosperity and stability of the three assistants in Guanzhong, these people have become the direction of hope. Through various channels,
Escape from your homeland and head to Guanzhong.
It is precisely because of this that life in the surrounding areas is getting harder and harder, and these Shandong gentry children are becoming more and more resentful. They don't know why there are such changes, or they are unwilling to find out. They just think about retro and let
The times should never change, the laws of the ancestors can be practiced for all generations, and then they can naturally be the superiors of others and be at ease for all generations.
Lu Yu's question was raised, but Wang Chang, who was in the main discussion hall, did not immediately refute it.
Wang Chang was thinking. He was considering whether Lu Yu really didn't understand, or whether he was pretending not to know. False ignorance is more disgusting and troublesome than true ignorance. If he really doesn't understand, then he can still say something, but if he is pretending not to know, he is thinking.
, then no matter how much you talk, it is just like trying to wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep, and it is a waste of time.
These people in Qingliu have to say that they are progressive in some aspects and represent a part of the social conscience. However, most of these guys never seem to know how to put it into practice and are just talking in general terms.
It is easy to talk, and it is easy to find faults, but it is difficult to do things. Under any policy or system, there are beneficiaries and losers, just like the poor who are the most basic of human society, "the murderer must pay for his life"
There are still people who are unwilling to give equal rights and encourage some empty talkers to say that murderers also have human rights and murderers do not necessarily have to die.
Therefore, in the gentry areas of Shandong, they exaggerated and publicized the horror of the Hussar General Fei Qian and the cruelty of the system, and magnified some of the problems that occurred in the three assistants in Guanzhong to intimidate the people in their own areas. See how terrifying the Hussar's tactics are.
, or is it better here? Stay here honestly!
In a farming society, farmers are very tolerant. After all, they have acres of land they can’t part with, three or two thatched houses with tiled roofs, wives, children, old parents, etc. Therefore, no matter how hard or tired they are, they will grit their teeth and hold on.
After all, the emperor crops crops one after another, just like Zhuang He. This year is a year of disaster. What if there is a good year next year? What if the next emperor is a wise king? What if a blue sky comes up in the local counties?
Even though these farmers know that this is just a possibility, it is still a hope after all.
The situation is somewhat different for tenants and slaves who have no assets, no freedom, and only labor power. For these people who have no savings and no worries, they are more likely to experience fluctuations than ordinary farmers when they cannot bear it.
, it is not surprising that there are various small-scale escapes.
Lu Yuzhi said that the butt determines the head. He would think so, but in fact it is not that wrong.
I won’t go into details about scholars, farmers, industry and commerce, but let’s just say that these wise men farmed with the people, regardless of high or low, working together and working together, well...
And let the hussars general Fei Qian give in later, ha...
It does sound beautiful.
In fact, it is a kind of "university under heaven" dreamed up by talkers.
Or call it Utopia or something.
When it comes to practicing it, Lu Yu really knows how to work in the fields!
This may be related to Lu Zhi's teachings and transmission, so Lu Yu believes that he can achieve "a wise man working with the people" and "working together with the same strength", so there is no reason why others can't do it...
After thinking about this, it is understandable that Lu Yu would raise such a question.
But for Lu Yu's question, Wang Chang didn't want to answer directly. On the one hand, Wang Chang himself had not fully understood the policies and methods of the Hussars General. If he said it wrong, it would be even worse. On the other hand,
Well, these issues cannot be explained clearly in just one or two sentences, as they involve too many things.
But I had to answer.
So Wang Chang looked at Lu Yu and said slowly: "My dear brother, I visited the villages in Guanzhong a few days ago. In my opinion, are the people in the villages in Guanzhong the same as the people in Yanyu?"
This is a very important point.
When debating, it is very taboo to talk to each other, or to change the original position casually when arguing. It is like meeting a rich man and saying that he wants to have a relationship, and it is definitely not for money, but then meeting ordinary people, he will It's useless to say you need feelings, you need money to feel safe.
The structural system of the villages in Guanzhong is different from that of the gentry villages in Shandong. Even if we don’t talk about political differences, there are significant differences in productivity. Although Yanzhou, Yuzhou and other places also have agricultural and engineering degrees, Scholars, but most of those bachelors of agriculture and bachelors of engineering are under the control of the sons of the gentry, and it is difficult for them to really go to the fields like Guanzhong Sanfu and other areas controlled by Fei Qian.
There is also agricultural technology. Guanzhong is the core area for bachelors of agriculture and bachelors of engineering. The continuous research and improvement in these aspects are also unmatched by the villages in the gentry area of Shandong.
Wang Chang knew this in his heart, and he said this now just to test Lu Yu's understanding of these situations. If Lu Yu proposed that the situations on both sides are different and cannot simply be regarded as the same village, then Wang Chang needs to change Another strategy...
But it is a pity that Lu Yu thought for a moment and actually agreed. "All the lands in the world are Han people. All the villages in the world are Han people. Although there are differences in wealth, it seems to be true."
Wang Chang moved his eyebrows, as if he wanted to smile, but suppressed it. After coughing, he said: "The three assistants in Guanzhong, Qingxu in Henan, Hebei, etc. are all in China, and they are divided into prefectures and counties in the Han Dynasty." , the land in Guanzhong is also the same... Since it is the same, why is the difference in what comes from the land? It is not the level of the land, but the difference in the price of Zhuanghe grain."
"If we both plow an acre of land and get one year's harvest, how can the common people in Guanzhong get a good harvest, but in Shandong, the common people find it difficult? If we follow the wise brother's words, "Limit business, cultivate together, and divide the profits." To achieve great unity in the world...then why are the people in Shandong so miserable and displaced?"
Wang Chang looked at Lu Yu, "Could it be that... the land of Shandong cannot be "limited to business, farming together, and profit sharing"?"
By paving the ground layer by layer, the hole is basically dug.
In his hometown, Lu Yu indeed implemented this system on the land belonging to the Lu family in accordance with what he said, "limiting business, sharing farming, and dividing profits." Then he also achieved good results. There was no dispute or competition. All people have gained the fruits of their labor and gained peace.
However, it can be said that Lu Yu still has a perceptual understanding of the world, ordinary people, and the source of the hardships of the entire society.
When Lu Yu was young, his father Lu Zhi died. As he grew up from a teenager to now, no one gave him guidance or guidance. He went to Yuzhou and Jizhou, and he saw We have seen the decay of the court, the cruelty of local princes, the destruction of the small peasant economy by businessmen, and the flight of ordinary farmers due to natural and man-made disasters.
He believes that this is caused by human greed, so he must "limit business, farm together, and divide profits." In this case, everyone is in the same position, and everyone can get the income from his labor, so there is no
With dissatisfaction and war gone, the world can return to peace.
Just like he did back home.
But he overlooked one thing, he is a nobleman...
And because of his father's relationship, the experiments he conducted in his hometown were on the Lu family's own land, so no one interfered with him. Even other nobles who traded with him were at cost prices or very low prices.
Profits from the transaction were going on. For the sake of Lu Yu's dead father, these nobles were even willing to pay for the deal. As long as they received praise from Lu, such as being an honest gentleman or something like that, they would make a profit.
But the peace and stability of the Lushi land cannot represent other regions.
Wang Chang did not say whether the three assistants in Guanzhong could do things according to Lu Yu's standards, but asked Lu Yu why the people under the gentry in Shandong were more miserable than those in Guanzhong. Is it because they were not doing things according to Lu Yu's standards, or was it because they were in trouble?
Is it difficult to do it according to Lu Yu’s standards?
If Lu Yu jumped out of the pit dug by Wang Chang and replied that he had followed the so-called Lu Yu's standards, then what's the problem with being in a worse situation than Guanzhong? If he said that he had not followed the standards, then since Lu Yu thinks this standard is so good
,Why are the Shandong gentry unwilling to follow such standards?
It doesn't matter if Lu Yu changes direction and avoids the pit. Anyway, no matter how Lu Yu answers, it will basically be in the palm of Wang Chang's hand.
Lu Yu was silent for a moment, perhaps realizing that the pit was quite deep and he would not be able to climb out if he fell in. After pondering for a moment, he said helplessly: "Every tool used in Guanzhong Village is beneficial, and all the methods used are helpful to farmers."
also……"
really.
Wang Chang nodded slightly, "In this case, where does the benefit come from? Where does the help for farmers come from? How can the people of only one place be equipped with all the equipment? Salt and iron, cloth, and curved shafts,
If there is no trade, how can we get farm equipment such as columbians and carts?"
"If you farm with the people, you can get crops. However, the people in Guanzhong are more prosperous than those in Shandong. Farmers in the two places are not the same. The work is different. It is not to seek the same, but to keep the differences..."
"Not seeking common ground?" Lu Yu was a little hard to understand.
Wang Chang nodded and said: "Young brother, can you master the six arts?"
"Huh?" Although he didn't understand why Wang Chang suddenly asked this, Lu Yu still nodded and said, "It makes sense."
"If there is a battle today, and the wise brother and the elite archers both have a hundred arrows to drive back the enemy army. If we compare the two, who is better?" Wang Chang asked.
If it were said that there were ten or twenty arrows, Lu Yu might still feel that they were incomparable, but what about a hundred arrows...
Lu Yu coughed and said, "The elite archers will win."
Wang Chang nodded, and then said, "If there are hundreds of books today, and I want to come across them, if I still have a wise brother and an elite archer, each holding a pen and ink, who can win?"
"This..." Lu Yu seemed to understand somewhat, "I think my younger brother is slightly better."
"A ruler is short and an inch is long," Wang Chang said with a smile, "So good brothers tilling fields together are like beautiful jade beside rocks. Well... so the theory of "ploughing together" can be discarded..."
Lu Yu was stunned for a moment, as if he wanted to say something, but when he opened his mouth, nothing came out.
The small-scale peasant economy, or manor economy, is destined to be eliminated.
Even if there are twins or multiples, there are some differences, let alone ordinary people? Some people are good at this, some are good at that, it is impossible to be the same. The Shandong gentry have always advocated a small and comprehensive small-scale peasant economy, which is nothing more than
In order to strengthen their rule, they turned a blind eye to this obvious need for social division of labor.
Social division of labor increases productivity. The more detailed the division of labor, the greater the improvement in production efficiency. This is the most fundamental principle of the production assembly line in later generations.
Hard work has class attributes.
Similarly, social division of labor also has class attributes.
If it is recognized that everyone is different and cannot "cultivate together", then it is impossible to "restrict business". Businessmen are the bridges to exchange what is needed and what is not, and if they are all restricted, then how can the problem of differences be solved?
Lu Yu was silent for a long time, and then said: "Now that Guanzhong is benefiting the world, the remaining land is trapped... Moreover, the profits of business are now twice as important as those of farmers. If things go on like this, many people will abandon farmers. This is improper "profit sharing"
That’s right, I wonder if my brother can explain it?」
Wang Chang shook his head and said with a smile, "The disadvantages of "dividing benefits" mentioned by my wise brother are not the fault of Huqi, but Shandong's fault! When Hussar gained advantages, they opened mountains and ridges, crossed rivers and built bridges, took in the refugees, and restored
By cultivating unused fields, we will have the abundance of the three crops, the beauty of the crops, and the happiness of the people!"
"When the hussar is successful, there will be thick armor, the iron cavalry is rolling, and the front of the army is pointed, the sea is peaceful, the Baibo is black, the Xiongnu is Xianbei, the Western Qiang is in the west, and the northern desert is in the north. But if there is the banner of the Han, it is the land of the Han
, the power of the great Han Dynasty!"
"The hussars are profitable, a school for agriculture and industry is established, and a museum for hundreds of medicines is built. Year by year, children from poor families can seek education, widows and widowers can find peace in their own country, and those who died in war can be rehabilitated... It will be like the place of Qinglong Temple."
, if it was not built by hussars, why would you and I talk about it?"
"Therefore, if the hussar is successful, it will be beneficial to the world. But how can those in Shandong be as successful as the hussar?"
Lu Yu fell silent, speechless.
Wang Chang looked at Lu Yu, was silent for a while, and then said: "A wise brother thinks about the political shortcomings and talks about his strategies. Although there are flaws, it is still valuable... Today, the three assistants in Guanzhong are just like the rising sun, all walks of life, the county
There is an urgent need for talented people in the county... If my brother is interested, he might as well stay in Guanzhong, and he should be able to gain something..."
The reason why Wang Chang was willing to debate with Lu Yu was not only because of the Lu family in Fan Yang, but also because of his previous friendship, and also to build momentum in advance.
A public debate with Lu Yu was also for others to see...
After all, there are many people like Lu Yu who are rushing to Chang'an after hearing that Qinglong Temple is about to hold another lecture and revise the scripture annotations. Among these people, some people will naturally be like
Like Lu Yu, he had some misunderstandings about the three assistants in Guanzhong and the hussar general.
Instead of fermenting these misunderstandings in private, it is better to expose them to the sun.
Sterilize and disinfect?
Lu Yu handed over his hand and did not continue to stalk. He acknowledged Wang Chang's remarks and expressed that he would continue to stay in Chang'an...
Anyway, in such a debate, it’s good to win, but it doesn’t matter if you lose. After all, Lu Yu is young at the moment. Isn’t it normal for young people to have immature thoughts and insufficient cognition?
Already appeared on the stage.
Wang Chang smiled slightly, raised his arms with Lu Yu, and then walked out. Suddenly he saw Mi Heng behind the crowd, and nodded slightly.
Mi Heng returned the gift with a cupped hand.
"Hey? It's you, Shohei!"
"Brother Zhengping, why don't you go up and argue?!"
"Shenghei! Enter!"
"Come on! Come on!"
Mi Heng turned his head and glanced at the people who just called him "come on" as if they were commanding a dog. He was silent for a while, turned back and cupped his hands to Wang Chang and Lu Yu, and separated the crowd with a word.
The one who didn't send it left.
"Eh……"
"Why did you just leave like that?"
"How can Zhengping be so timid?!"
"Shohei! Shohei...what a coward!"
"That's right, Kui thought that you Zhengping was a person before..."
"It's a fart..."
"Chirp..."
"What?"
Wang Chang looked at Mi Heng's back, smiled, and then said goodbye to Lu Yu and left...
