"Mr. Cavour, the country you are talking about is the country of you property owners, the country of the Savoy royal family, not the country of the deeply oppressed Italian nation and people!"
Cavour's face did not show any look of annoyance at Mazzini's teasing.
As early as when Cavour met Garibaldi, Garibaldi told Cavour that Mazzini was more difficult to convince than he was.
Mazzini mocked him face to face, which was already within his expectation.
After all, the common theme between Cavour and Mazzini was nothing more than the unification of Italy.
Cavour wanted to transform the unification of Italy into dynastic expansion, thereby eliminating the resistance created in the unification process.
Mazzini wanted to completely eliminate all the oppressive forces entrenched in the Italian peninsula (all known to the king, priests, and nobles), so as to complete the true rebirth of Italy.
It can be said that the fact that two people like Cavour and Mazzini, who have completely different ideas, can sit down and talk together patiently can be considered a complete improvement.
"Mr. Mazzini, I understand your ideas! I am also willing to respect your ideas!" Cavour said to Mazzini calmly, "But the differences between us are just differences in ideas!"
As he spoke, Cavour pointed at Mazzini, then at himself, and said in a particularly sincere tone, "You and I are both patriots, and we both hope to have an Italian state and an Italian nation!
At present, the entire Italian peninsula is still in a state of fragmentation, why can't we join forces to create an Italian country first, and then consider other things!"
"Mr. Cavour!" Mazzini raised his voice and angrily shouted at Cavour, "I would like to ask what is the difference between an Italian state formed by the Kingdom of Sardinia and now!
The people of the Italian peninsula were merely transferred from the hands of one foreign exploiter to the hands of another own exploiter!"
Having said this, Mazzini suddenly remembered something, and a disdainful smile appeared on his lips, "By the way, I almost forgot!
The House of Savoy to which you are loyal is not even a purebred Italian.
Their bloodline comes from the Holy Roman Empire (Electors of the Holy Roman Empire), and their birthplace comes from Savoy in France (this is where Mazzini was forced to hand over Savoy and Nice to France in order to mock the Savoy royal family)!
From them, I didn’t see any trace of the Italian nation at all!
And if they want to unify the Italian peninsula, they just want to make the crown on their heads more dazzling!"
Mazzini's unreserved ridicule of the Savoy royal family aroused Cavour's dissatisfaction.
Although Cavour himself was not a royalist in the true sense, he had been highly valued by the Savoy royal family for many years and inevitably developed a certain respect for the Savoy royal family.
"Mr. Mazzini!" Cavour responded to Mazzini sarcastically, "The alien royal family you are talking about is working tirelessly to safeguard freedom of speech and assembly in Sardinia!
They respect the Parliament and seek a way to unify Italy!
And you, this great thinker, what are you doing!
You keep saying you love the Italian nation, but I have never seen you take any action since 1848!
Is your so-called love just a slogan?
If that’s the case, loving Italy is too cheap!”
Cavour's venomous tongue without reservation succeeded in silencing Mazzini.
Indeed, since the failure of the Roman Republic, Mazzini has never organized a decent operation on the Italian peninsula, and has not even fully planned a riot.
The most recent uprising that was about to take place was last year, but due to the sudden increase of troops from the Austrian Empire in the Lombardy region, the uprising that was originally planned died in the belly.
[Insert here, in the original history of 1858, Mazzini once remotely directed the riots in Lombardy and Venice in Switzerland.
Although the number of people in this riot was smaller than that of 1848, it also caused the Austrian Empire to lose a certain number of soldiers, and at the same time, the hatred of the Lombardy and Venetian regions towards the Austrian Empire was sorted out.
In 1858 in this dimension, the French Empire and the Austrian Empire brazenly attacked the Kingdom of Sardinia. Mazzini, who originally lived in Switzerland, was deeply aware of the difficulties of the revolution. He gave up his plan to riot in Lombardy and Venice and returned to London to continue saving money.
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Seeing that Mazzini was speechless, Cavour continued to increase his output, "Mr. Mazzini, I find that what you love is just an abstract Italian nation, an Italian nation that is only active in the literal sense!
You choose to turn a blind eye to an Italian nation that really exists in the world and is suffering from Austrian oppression!
In your eyes, we are no different from the Austrians!
But I want to ask, will the Austrians respect the opinions of the people in the region like we do? Will they hold a parliament like us?"
Before Mazzini could speak, Cavour said to himself, "No, they won't! They won't respect the opinions of the Italian nation at all, and they won't give the people living in Lombardy and Venice a channel to speak out.
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In their eyes, Lombardy and Venice are nothing but the wallets of the Austrian Empire!
In order to maintain Austria's rule, they must impose various heavy taxes on Lombardy and Venice!
Only in this way can they truly secure the throne!
However, even though the Austrian Empire has persecuted the Italian nation so much, in your heart, we and the Austrian Empire are still the same!"
"No matter what, you are still standing on the body of the Italian nation sucking blood!" Mazzini still said to Cavour, "You are just a parasite entrenched in the body of Italy!"
This chapter is not finished yet, please click on the next page to continue reading the exciting content! A sneer appeared at the corner of Cavour's mouth, and his eyes also showed a look of disdain. This expression was very similar to the way Mazzini had just mocked him.
"Mr. Mazzini! According to your theory, which government in the world today is not a parasite lying on the body of its own nation sucking blood!" Cavour retorted to Mazzini.
"Of course!" Mazzini replied, "All governments are blood-sucking parasites lying on their own nation!"
"Unless the government organization is completely eliminated, this kind of behavior can never be banned!" Cavour responded to Mazzini sarcastically.
"Then destroy the government!" Mazzini's tone sounded slightly self-defeating.
Years of failure have gradually transformed Mazzini's thoughts into the anarchist camp.
"Mr. Mazzini! If there is no government to organize the people, then how should we form an army to resist foreign invasion!" Cavour asked Mazzini.
"We can form a citizen's army and rely on the identification of all the people with Italy to resist foreign enemies!" Mazzini replied to Cavour.
"Mr. Mazzini, we are engaged in a technological war, not a war between tribes!" Cavour continued to retort to Mazzini, "The absence of a government means that the people cannot be mobilized to produce for the war.
The citizen army in your mouth will hold spears and fight against foreign enemies!
No government means no standing army. All armies must be established from scratch. How to select our soldiers, how to choose our officers, and how to stand out from the generals responsible for commanding this army!
More importantly, what should an army starting from scratch, armed with spears, do to resist an invasion that has experienced hundreds of battles?
Dear sir, I really can’t imagine this army being able to defeat foreign enemies without God!”
"The French Republic relies on the citizen army to resist foreign enemies, why can't we!!" Mazzini said to Cavour angrily
"The French Republic also has a government!" Cavour seized on Mazzini's loophole and pursued him fiercely. "And the French Republic's external war does not seem to have improved because of the citizen army. After the foreign enemies slowed down their offensive slightly, they themselves had
Start fighting among yourself!
On the contrary, it was after Napoleon came to power that France really got on the right track and became an unrivaled country!
The government is an institution that must exist in a country!”
"Even if a government is needed, it should not be a government composed of powerful people!
A government composed of powerful people cannot protect the interests of the people at all!" Mazzini continued to respond to Cavour.
"Mr. Mazzini, I said that our first priority is the unification of Italy!
If Italy cannot be unified, then no amount of talking will have any effect!" Cavour said to Mazzini, "Besides, do the people in Italy really have the ability to manage a country well?
The vast majority of people living in our land cannot effectively exercise their rights!
Haven’t the tragedies of the French Republic given you a warning?
This region of Italy can truly achieve stability only by allowing the elite to participate in politics!
If those who cannot even write are allowed to participate in management, the country will only fall into massacre and destruction!"
After listening to Cavour's words, Mazzini immediately fell silent.
In fact, Mazzini used to be a person who respected elite governance. The original Roman Republic was a typical example.
But the long-term failure caused Mazzini to fall into anarchist thinking.
At the moment, Mazzini vaguely agrees with some of Cavour's ideas, but due to the different political stances of the two parties, Mazzini cannot agree with Cavour's words.
"Mr. Mazzini, think about the suffering Italian compatriots! How much they want an Italian country, we really need to unite and build a new alliance together!
Only in this way can Italy become a reality in our hands!"
