After the meeting, Professor Liang treated him to a treat, and Director Hu paid for it and invited Yang Ping, Xiehe and several young doctors to have dinner together at Fengzeyuan in Wangfujing.
Among those young doctors, except Song Yun, the others were Dr. Xiehe who participated in Guilin's animal experiments and were considered old fans of Yang Ping.
The whole process of animal experiments on spinal external fixators can be described as "exhilarating". These doctors have done countless experiments, large and small, and they have never felt so sweaty.
The whole experiment encountered no difficulties. It simply reached the goal and went so smoothly that it was a bit unbelievable.
During the dinner, several doctors heard that the Phase III clinical trial of spinal external fixation was being carried out simultaneously in Europe, the United States and Japan, and they couldn't help feeling proud. They were also participants in this experiment.
On Sunday, Professor Cheney from the Twin Cities Spine Center in Minnesota, USA, led a delegation to Concordia.
The communication team included Cheney himself, a total of five people. As a regular communication, the size of this kind of team is already quite large.
Professor Cheney has made outstanding achievements in spinal tumors, especially in total vertebrae resection. He is also a representative of the European and American schools of this technique.
Cheney has the standard strengths and weaknesses of Americans. He is energetic and innovative, but at the same time he is arrogant and selfish.
At that time, he improved the total vertebra resection method, making his new method the best total vertebra surgery method in the world. Professor Hu highly praised Cheney's surgical method, and he expressed the hope to send people to the Twin Cities.
Go to the Spine Center for further training and learn Cheney's new surgery.
But the arrogant and selfish Cheney rejected Director Hu. Cheney said that he must give priority to meeting the Americans' needs for further education.
But this time, Cheney actually brought a collaborative project.
Director Hu said that the visiting team settled in a nearby hotel, took a short rest, and then began the exchange between the two teams.
In the conference room of the Union Medical College Orthopedics, Cheney met Professor Hu and Union Medical College doctors. Yang Ping was also regarded as a non-staff doctor of Union Medical College and participated in this academic exchange.
The exchange meeting is divided into two parts. The first part is a salon-style academic exchange. Everyone communicates freely first, and then sends doctors to each other to give speeches to explain the progress of some of their current research, sharing of classic surgeries, discussion of special cases, etc.
The second part is surgery. Because the theme of this exchange is spinal tumors, the surgery demonstrated is also spinal tumors.
As the home venue of Xiehe Union Medical College, a large number of people came. Almost all doctors, doctors and masters in orthopedics came to attend the meeting.
The entire meeting was conducted in English. The English proficiency of Union Medical College doctors is very high. Anyone who is asked to speak English can speak very fluently.
"Professor Hu, it's a great honor to see you again. How are you?" Cheney held Director Hu's hand.
Professor Hu does not like Cheney, but this does not affect the academic exchanges between the two teams.
"Professor Cheney, we are very kind and welcome you to China." Director Hu was also polite and thoughtful.
Like most exchange meetings, the bosses from both sides first met and shook hands to express lasting friendship, and then the people from both sides took their seats.
This is a regular exchange meeting, held almost every month, so the meeting reception is simple. There is only a bottle of mineral water on each table, and fast food is eaten at noon. The meeting ends in the afternoon and the Americans leave.
Of course, after the meeting, doctors from both China and the United States take a group photo. Taking a group photo is not only our habit, but also a necessary part of American doctors participating in academic conferences.
Generally, when American doctors are invited to attend academic conferences, they can be given no food and asked to go to the streets to get food on their own. This is totally fine and they won't have any objections.
But if he was not invited to take photos during the whole meeting, he would definitely have objections.
Because American doctors are accustomed to attending academic conferences all over the world. The more conferences you attend, the more knowledgeable and experienced you are. This is a reflection of your career qualifications.
Moreover, if this American doctor has some innovation and is invited to attend academic conferences to speak about his new technology, then the more conferences he attends, the more successful and valuable the promotion of his new technology will be.
How to prove that you have participated in many academic conferences is through these photos of participating in conferences.
After a few simple greetings, Professor Cheney, wearing a shirt and tie, couldn't help but express his willingness to cooperate:
"Professor Hu, this time I bring you great news. I have designed a new set of equipment around my new technique. Don't you want to learn the new technique? This time there is a perfect opportunity. We can
Carry out full cooperation on new technologies and new equipment. Medical skills have no borders. We must share new technologies and let good technologies benefit people as soon as possible."
Cheney is in high spirits. This time he came to China for exchanges. He brought his new device and hoped to cooperate with Concordia to conduct clinical trials of the device in China. This way, the device can be improved using the massive number of cases in China and the FDA approval time can be shortened.
China has a large population and extremely rich case resources. Cheney is salivating over the massive case resources.
"New equipment?"
Professor Hu had never heard of it before and wondered when the arrogant and selfish Cheney was so enthusiastic.
Professor Cheney waved, and the accompanying assistant took out a picture and text material from his bag and handed it over. Professor Cheney handed the material to Director Hu: "Professor Hu, take a good look at the desire for further study you mentioned last time.
I have always kept it in mind that if we can establish cooperation this time, I can give Xiehe many training places, and I will personally teach the new technique of total spondylectomy to the people you send."
When did Cheney become such a sharing spirit?
When did we possess this noble spirit of internationalism?
Director Hu took over this thick graphic material with questions and studied it carefully.
This exquisite picture and text introduces the new device invented by Cheney, which is actually a component artificial spinal prosthesis after total vertebra resection.
"Professor Hu, if we cooperate, our advanced technology and your rich case resources can be combined to achieve amazing results."
"You use new equipment to perform surgeries. You will be the first person in Asia to use this set of equipment."
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Cheney said proudly next to him.
Director Hu is a very calm and steady person. He has no interest in being the first person to apply new technologies in Asia.
Although this is the way that many professors in China have become famous, Director Hu is not interested in this method. He does not want to get academic capital by becoming the first person in Asia or China to use certain foreign new equipment.
After reading the information, Director Hu had a basic understanding of Cheney's new technology, and then handed the information to Yang Ping, who was sitting next to him.
Yang Ping took the information and just flipped through it casually. This set of equipment is very immature and has many safety hazards. If it is not improved, it will not be able to obtain an FDA clinical trial license in the United States.
This is a common method used in European and American countries. They place immature medical devices in developing countries for clinical trials, accumulate data, and then improve them until they are mature before using them in their own countries.
Many of them still use the guise of imparting advanced technology to make everyone think they are doing good things and be grateful to them.
"How about it?"
Professor Liang, who was sitting next to Yang Ping, asked sideways.
Professor Liang has retreated behind the scenes and usually participates in these academic conferences only as a listener and not as a leader.
"This set of equipment is extremely immature and has many safety hazards. It should not be able to obtain a clinical trial license in the United States in a short period of time." Yang Ping told Professor Liang his opinion.
Professor Liang snorted coldly, very angry.
Director Hu also heard what Yang Ping said, but because everyone was speaking in Chinese, Cheney couldn't understand it at all.
After hearing Yang Ping's words, Director Hu was already very sure. Just now, he felt that something was wrong with this set of equipment and was very immature. He was afraid that he might make a mistake in his judgment, so he asked Yang Ping to help him take another look.
"Cheney, why is this set of equipment not certified by the FDA?" Director Hu returned the information to Cheney and said in English.
Cheney said disapprovingly: "This is a new device that has not yet been certified. The approval time for clinical trials in the United States is too long, so it is better to put it in China."
"I'm sorry, Cheney. In China, the approval process is also very strict. It's no easier than in the United States." Director Hu said coldly.
Cheney was a little displeased: "Don't you want to learn our latest tumor surgery methods? If you cooperate, we can give you a lot of training places, and we are doing a great cause. We will conduct clinical trials in China, and we can add instruments."
The application process will allow many patients around the world to enjoy the benefits of new technologies as soon as possible. Professor Hu, you will also publish many papers because of this cooperation and become a leader of new technologies in China."
"Cheney, your equipment has many defects and does not meet the standards of clinical trials at all. You may not understand China. We also have very strict management of these three types of equipment. Your equipment cannot even pass my test.
Let alone pass the review.”
Director Hu is neither humble nor overbearing, and his tone is very tough.
Not to mention that we don’t need your new technology now, even if we are eager to learn your new technology, we will not use this as an exchange condition.
Cheney originally thought that cooperation could be negotiated easily, but unexpectedly he was met with disappointment.
"We can provide a fund, and there is no limit on the number of papers you can publish as the first author. Professor Hu, I brought the sincerity to cooperate because of our friendship. To tell you the truth, I cooperated with us.
People are waiting in line." Cheney's tone was very arrogant.
It seems that by cooperating with you, I think highly of you, so you don’t know how to flatter me!
Director Hu smiled slightly: "Oh---then it's easy. Just ignore us and find those who are waiting in line to cooperate. We are not interested in this project, and we don't want to wait in line."
"I don't think you understand this information at all. It contains the essence of all my new technologies. It is no exaggeration to say that not many people can understand it because most of them do not have the knowledge and experience in this area."
Ni's thinking is a bit rogue and overbearing.
Free exchanges between the two parties are still going on. In order to practice their spoken English, some doctors from Xiehe University are very active in face-to-face communication with several American doctors.
Members of Cheney's team include four other doctors, two of whom are attending physicians and two of whom are residents.
In the United States, there are only two levels of professional titles for doctors: Resident doctors - who are currently undergoing training and are not qualified to practice medicine independently; attending doctors - who have completed training and are qualified to practice medicine independently and are responsible for all their own medical activities. Doctors have no evaluation
In the process of professional title, the attending doctor is lifelong.
The two resident doctors are still in training and just follow their superior doctors to see the world, while the two attending doctors are experienced experts in spinal tumors.
Everyone interacted with each other and the atmosphere was very harmonious.
"Professor Hu, I have been to several Chinese hospitals. The current treatment of spinal tumors, especially total spondylectomy, is very backward in terms of concepts and surgical procedures. Some hospitals even do strict grading and staging of tumors.
No, the surgery is very rough and unprofessional. I am very worried about this phenomenon, so I have been thinking about what I can do for you. Now is the time to do something. If we can cooperate, I can train your doctors.
The best and most advanced technology in the world will be taught to you, and then you will train other Chinese doctors so that they can master the most advanced medical skills in the world. This is something that will benefit patients."
"And we teach you technology for free and give you new equipment for use for free, and all we want is postoperative follow-up data. In your Chinese terms, this is a hugely profitable thing."
"Have you ever thought that the projects we cooperate with can also carry out charity relief. If those poor people who have no money for medical treatment suffer from spinal tumors, they can undergo free surgery. All they have to do is follow up as we require."
Cheney's eloquence is very good, and his words are flawless. If you want to do something successfully, it must be packaged in fairness and justice. Americans are well aware of this truth.
The quintessentially American Cheney is using this trick.
When Director Hu heard this, he seemed to be being narrow-minded and immoral if he did not agree to his request and not implant his defective devices into Chinese people.
"Mr. Cheney, you spoke so well. Now I feel that your FDA is really a devil. It has ruthlessly restricted your clinical trials. This has caused serious damage to the health of many American patients, and some have even caused fatal losses."
,So, you should be able to sue these shameless guys." Professor Hu looked filled with indignation.
Professor Cheney looked at Director Hu, thinking he understood what he said and was inclined to agree to cooperate.
"Yes, I am planning to hire a lawyer to sue them."
Professor Cheney couldn't think of a response for a moment, so he responded hastily.
"Moreover, I feel very ashamed that you have given us such good benefits. This is originally an American benefit. How can we Chinese be so selfish and take advantage of this benefit? So if I agree to cooperate, I will feel uneasy." Director Hu
Said seriously for a while.
"No, Professor Hu, you don't have to be so sad. The Chinese need new technologies more than Americans." Cheney comforted Director Hu.
The free exchange is almost complete. Both parties are ready and can start taking turns to give lectures. Each person will only be given ten minutes, and the bell will end at that time.
Song Yun asked Director Hu if he could start?
Cheney waved his hand and signaled to wait, he still wanted to have a good talk with Director Hu.