Chapter 191 The little guy comes to the end! (Please subscribe!)
Zhou Cheng can actually understand Luo Yun's mood at the moment.
During the previous lectures, Luo Yun also complained, but he muttered in private. Luo Yun never participated in any Q&A or discussion sessions.
As for what Luo Yun said, Zhou Cheng had heard it from other people next door, and it was even more outrageous.
However, everyone has a fixed circle.
Zhou Cheng's current circle is in the Eighth Hospital, that is, Cai Dongfan, Luo Yun, and Du Yanjun.
However, although Luo Yun is in his circle, Luo Yun's circle is quite different from his own.
The fact that Luo Yun is a graduate student at Shanghai Jiao Tong University is already well known in the department, and even many people in Hunan Province know about it.
I didn't realize it before, but Associate Professor Zuo Hu from the Shonan University Affiliated Hospital recognized Luo Yun, and if Luo Yun is in Hunan Province, then this news will definitely not be ignored.
But if he knew that Luo Yun was a student of Professor Zeng Diwei, why did Professor Dong He from the Xiang Provincial People's Hospital insist on involving Mr. Zeng in this academic conference? I don't know what Luo Yun did at this moment.
What to think!
Zhou Cheng secretly glanced at Luo Yun with his peripheral vision and wanted to ask something.
Someone stood up from the fifth row in front and stared at his phone seriously. After looking at it for a while, he hurriedly walked from the crowd to the alley next to him and headed straight to the back.
As he walked, he was still counting, muttering: "Second row from the bottom, seats 1, 2, 3 and 4 from the right!"
While he was counting like this, Zhou Cheng also saw this person's movements. The strange color in his pupils condensed for a moment, and he took the initiative to speak: "Dong Yuhai?"
There was quite a bit of surprise in his tone.
This Dong Yuhai is a classmate of their class and also a celebrity in the class. Because he had the best grades when he took the postgraduate entrance examination and was admitted to the target school, he was one of the best people, even in their class.
, and no one else did better than Dong Yuhai.
He was admitted to Jiaotong University in Shanghai, but Zhou Cheng didn't know which affiliated hospital he was in.
Dong Yuhai is of medium build, slightly fat, wears black-rimmed glasses, has short hair, and has slightly dark skin.
When he heard someone calling his name, he glanced at Zhou Cheng and naturally recognized his classmate, Zhou Cheng. However, he just heard that Zhou Cheng failed the exam. He didn't know whether Zhou Cheng took the exam again.
Clear.
(Note: This classmate has laid the foundation for the simulation process before!)
He came here not to reminisce about old times, but just nodded slightly to Zhou Cheng, and asked Luo Yun, "Is this Teacher Luo Yun? I am a student of Teacher Liu Yiping."
"My name is Dong Yuhai."
When he said this, he was obviously a little nervous.
He was still a student of Liu Yiping in the Ninth Academy of the Demon City, so he naturally heard about Luo Yun. In terms of seniority, Luo Yun was still his uncle.
The reason why Liu Yiping came to attend the annual meeting of Hunan Province this time was related to Luo Yun. He happened to be from Hunan Province, so Liu Yiping took him with him instead of several other senior brothers with Ph.D.s.
Among graduate students, he is a third-year graduate student, and he is currently a senior among current students!
Luo Yun heard that Dong Yuhai reported his identity and replied: "Well, you are the Dong Yuhai that Senior Brother Liu mentioned before?"
"Well, Teacher Luo!" Dong Yuhai saw this and was about to go inside.
There was still room. The seat where Yang Yifeng sat was still available, just to Zhou Cheng's left. When Zhou Cheng saw Dong Yuhai was about to sit in, he moved a seat to the left.
Dong Yuhai still nodded and thanked Zhou Cheng, but he still did not reminisce about the past. Instead, he sat down and said in a low voice: "Teacher Luo, my teacher just said to me that he asked me to come to you and discuss something with you.
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Luo Yun nodded, turned his head, and asked Dong Yuhai to sit down.
"Say." Luo Yun knew that Liu Yiping also felt that it was not good to make a phone call at this time, and if Liu Yiping stood up and walked out to discuss things at the same time as him, he would definitely be interpreted.
"Teacher Luo, my teacher said that Professor Xu is from the older generation. He probably did not target Teacher Zeng intentionally, so I hope that later, Teacher Luo, you will stop asking questions. He will ask two questions." Dong Yuhai said respectfully.
Paraphrasing Liu Yiping’s words.
As a graduate student of the Ninth Academy of the Magic City, he has naturally participated in no less than twenty academic conferences, large and small. At such academic conferences, many academic disputes will arise!
They will argue with each other to show the background of different units. Although they will not go on a killing spree, they will not show any mercy.
Moreover, Dong Yuhai also said something that cannot be passed on to Luo Yun. When he introduced Professor Liu Yiping before, he did not deliberately emphasize that Liu Yiping was a student of Academician Zeng Diwei and was in the same team as Zeng Diwei.
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Putting too much emphasis on Academician Zeng Diwei will make it appear that Liu Yiping is useless and only consumes his teachers. He seems to have reached his current position only because of his teacher's protection. In fact, this is not the case. Professor Liu Yiping's abilities are also very outstanding.
Mr. Xu and the others are from the older generation. People of their generation will not pay too much attention to the younger generation. It would be good if they have the time and thought to sort out the relationships among their peers. How can they care about the students of their peers?
who is it?
But what Mr. Xu said before seemed to suggest that Zeng Diwei did not understand principles. He was afraid that Luo Yun was young and arrogant, so he would directly retaliate.
Liu Yiping could pat his butt and go back to the Magic City. He was still a professor and still had Zeng Diwei as his backer. He scolded him as much as he wanted. But Luo Yun had already decided to hang out in the circles in Xiang Province, which offended Mr. Xu.
, Afraid that Luo Yun would be unable to move even further!
Luo Yun's abilities were extraordinary before, but he could still only linger on the edge of a top-grade hospital...
For this reason, Liu Yiping asked his student Dong Yuhai to send a message to Luo Yun, telling Luo Yun not to speak.
He has to stand up. If he says in front of him that Zeng Diwei doesn't even care about his principles and he doesn't say anything, then he is in vain!
When Luo Yun heard this, he took a deep breath and said, "Okay, I understand, thank you for your hard work, Xiaodong."
Dong Yuhai waved his hand and continued to nod: "No hard work, no hard work, Teacher Luo."
He tried his best to show his kindness to Luo Yun and showed a sincere smile. He knew that he would not be able to get a Ph.D., and there was no chance for him to study for a Ph.D., so he applied for doctoral programs in three places: our school, Yueshan University, and Xiangnan University, but he has not yet been able to get a doctorate with him.
Get in touch with the doctoral supervisor.
The number of doctorate places and slots is far lower than the number of graduate students, even an order of magnitude reduction!
It was probably too uncertain. He might have to go back to his hometown in Hunan Province to work in the future. Liu Yiping mentioned it to Dong Yuhai that if he wanted to come back and find a good job, he might need his junior uncle to lend a hand and help him a little.
It's better to say something next.
Dong Yuhai had actually wanted to meet Luo Yun for a long time, but he just didn't have the opportunity!
Luo Yun didn't reply. He just looked at his eyes, his nose and his mouth, and his mouth and his heart.
He was just tapping the table with his hands.
When Dong Yuhai saw this, he turned to Zhou Cheng and said, "Hello, brother Zhou Cheng. Long time no see."
"Where is Brother Zhou Cheng studying for graduate school now?"
Dong Yuhai knew Zhou Cheng, but the reason why he knew Zhou Cheng was not because of Zhou Cheng's good grades, but because Dong Yuhai heard that Zhou Cheng often went out to work part-time and had various ventures, and still managed to avoid failing the exam.
, in fact, he is also a Maverick.
What's more, Zhou Cheng is usually quite generous and easy-going. Although Dong Yuhai feels that his grades are good, he is a little proud.
But in fact, there are not many people with this kind of idea, so they are not the kind of people who have no relationship.
"I didn't pass the exam, and then I took the postgraduate exam, and now I'm doing the regular exam at the Eighth Hospital. Now I'm following Teacher Luo." Zhou Cheng didn't mention the fact that he failed the postgraduate exam several times, and it wasn't a glorious thing.
Dong Yuhai nodded, glanced at Luo Yun regretfully, and then continued: "That's really a pity, but it's good to have the training first. I don't know yet whether I can graduate on time or not.
After that, you have to regulate and train.”
Although Dong Yuhai's grades allowed him to enter Jiaotong University in Shanghai, he was not admitted to a professional graduate school and was transferred to an academic graduate school.
Dong Yuhai was very disappointed at the time, but there were books to read, so he did not give up.
"Brother Dong is joking. You are the number one in our grade. How can you not graduate?" Zhou Cheng knew that Dong Yuhai must be joking. There is no way he could not graduate.
"Brother Zhou Cheng, you should call me Dong Yuhai. It sounds too uncomfortable to call me Brother Dong." Dong Yuhai quickly corrected Zhou Cheng's title problem.
Then, Dong Yuhai chatted with Zhou Cheng for a while, then excused himself and left, his eyes occasionally lingering on the notebook where Zhou Cheng was taking notes.
After Dong Yuhai left, Luo Yun spoke and looked at Zhou Cheng with a somewhat envious expression: "Are you a little envious?"
"Would you like me to introduce you to my senior brother, Professor Liu? As long as you can pass the re-examination line of Jiaotong University in Shanghai, he will accept you."
Luo Yun continued to deceive and seduce Zhou Chenglai like a devil.
However, Zhou Cheng did not refuse this time, but said: "Teacher Luo, let me think about it again. It would be great if you could take care of the students."
I said this, but what I was thinking in my heart was, co-authored.
Once before, the classmate I met in the magic city was actually Dong Yuhai?
Dong Yuhai’s teacher was Liu Yiping, and during that simulation?
Guilty sin!
Luo Yun sighed: "How am I going to take care of graduate students? If I want to take care of graduate students, it will probably take several decades. In a few decades, it won't be my turn."
At present, the minimum requirement for graduate tutors and doctoral tutors is a master's degree. That is a limitation of the times. In the early years, a graduate student or even an undergraduate could find a good job.
Now, in the medical industry, it is difficult for anyone without a doctorate to stay in a top-level hospital in a province or city.
Not to mention taking care of graduate students. Don’t even think about it if you don’t have a Ph.D.
Therefore, no matter how desperate Luo Yun is, he still has to study for a Ph.D., preferably full-time. If that doesn't work, it's still possible to work while working, but the value of an in-service Ph.D. student is far lower than that of a full-time one.
But it doesn’t matter anymore.
Luo Yun continued to turn his attention to Dong He, who was giving a lecture, and Zhou Cheng didn't say much.
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Dong He continued to introduce...
But everyone has almost guessed what happened next. It just means that they sent the cultured specimens and case information to Academician Zeng’s team twice, and conducted remote video consultations.
The more Dong He said, the more excited he became, after all, today Professor Zhu was indeed in trouble.
It is estimated that no one will dare to forget this matter for at least ten years, and even, in the end, it will reach the ears of Academician Zeng——
Academician Zeng may not speak or take any action.
He couldn't guarantee whether he would be angry or not, but he would definitely be unhappy!
With this thought in mind, Dong He continued his tone of saying, "I'm here to ask for advice," and asked sincerely:
"Because of the complexity of this case, I am here today to seek advice from my colleagues. I wonder if any experts and professors can give more sincere suggestions on this case!"
Everyone rolled their eyes.
Suggestions, suggestions are rubbish,
Who dares to speak now?
Liu Yiping is sitting below.
Of course, I dare not suggest it, but there are still problems.
For example, there was a person who raised his hand and was called upon by Zhu Jinshan, then stood up and asked:
"Professor Dong, can you tell us in detail how you considered the patient's postoperative exudation after he was admitted to the hospital for the first time?"
"In clinical practice, wound exudation is not uncommon, and we must all have encountered it."
"No one can guarantee that we will not encounter a situation similar to yours during the operation in the future, so I hope you can impart some experience."
This is no longer a question, but a real question.
And it was just a slap in the face, and I don’t know if I hope to cover up the unpleasantness that happened before!
Of course, if someone asks a question, you must reply.
As a speaker, Dong He is of course very familiar with the details of the case.
"In this case, when the exudation first appeared, it was very much like a simple wound exudation, slightly bloody. After a few days, it turned more like fat liquefaction,"
"And when we were performing debridement and suturing, we saw a cavity under the skin, so we performed debridement and drainage and continued flushing,"
"We conducted strict sterile collection of exudate before, during and after the operation; we conducted detailed laboratory examination and culture on the nature and appearance of the exudate, and found nothing special.
It’s the same as the exudate we usually see.”
"Through this case, we suggest that if you encounter exudation in the future, you must be very careful and carefully consider such an extreme situation to prevent a similar situation from happening again." Dong He spoke eloquently!
"Thank you, Professor Dong." The person who asked the question thanked him. From beginning to end, he did not identify himself.
Moreover, even Zhu Jinshan did not name the person who asked the question.
However, just after Dong He finished his question and answer, Professor Liu Yiping in front raised his hand again!
Zhu Jinshan could use Dong He's introduction as an excuse after he finished his previous answer, but he couldn't always use this as an excuse. And in the last question and answer session, he bypassed Liu Yiping.
Always bypassing it will cause problems, so Zhu Jinshan could only bite the bullet and named Professor Liu Yiping.
"Please ask the staff to hand over the microphone to Professor Liu Yiping. Professor Liu should have something to say." Zhu Jinshan said.
People sitting in the same row as Liu Yiping in the audience all rolled their eyes. Is this a slap in the face?
Originally, they had a lot of questions to ask about this case, but because everyone knew each other when it happened before, they naturally couldn't speak more. In order to save Liu Yiping's face, they didn't even raise their hands.
As if watching the fire from across the bank and watching the excitement!
Liu Yiping finally got the microphone he had longed for. After standing up, he started politely and courteously:
"Thank you, Professor Dong, for bringing us such a special case and introducing us to our experience in handling such a rare case. I believe that the reason why Professor Dong came up with such a case was that he had experienced a severe psychological struggle."
"Although Professor Dong is well prepared, he is rigorous and skillful in the diagnosis and treatment process of cases."
"But me? There are some things that I didn't quite understand during the listening process. I hope Professor Dong can give me some advice!"
"Professor Liu, you ask." Dong He bowed slightly, took two steps back, smiled broadly, and spoke in an extremely polite tone!
He had a video discussion with Academician Zeng Diwei’s team. How could he not recognize Professor Liu Yiping?
He actually didn't know that Professor Liu Yiping would come, and the ppt he originally prepared was not like this, and even the content of the case shared in the report was not like this. He just saw Professor Liu Yiping, and specially compiled this special case.
from!
Dong He did it on purpose.
Professor Liu Yiping paused, organized his words a little, then turned slightly and said respectfully:
"Previously, Professor Song from the Second Affiliated Hospital of Shonan University, Senior Song said this."
"The doctors in the radiology department are only responsible for preliminary reading of the plain radiographs and giving a detailed report. We orthopedic surgeons are the ones who take care of the final step."
"You can't disbelieve the radiology department's report, and you certainly can't believe it entirely, right?"
Dong He nodded.
I just feel that my face is a little surprised, because what Professor Liu Yiping said doesn’t seem to be a problem? It’s not what Professor Liu Yiping should ask, right?
Just because this direction and point exceeded Dong He's expectations, Dong He's heartbeat was a little fast. Professor Liu Yiping, wasn't he really looking for trouble with me? Did Professor Xu and Zhu Jinshan just pass by?
Professor Liu Yiping continued: "Similarly, we don't mention other departments. Our joint surgery department always encounters various problems from other departments, and we will ask for consultation!"
"So, when we ask for a consultation, should we ask them to help us solve the problems we encounter during the operation, or should we ask them to evaluate the risks of the operation and handle the specialist diagnosis and treatment in the department we requested the consultation?"
"So? When Academician Zeng gave his opinions on remote consultation, Professor Dong He, did you use it to directly appropriate it, use it as a reference, or directly execute it?"
"It is better to believe in books than to have no books at all." Liu Yiping added this sentence at the end!
After the words fell, the scene became quiet again!
Silence is like a disease, spreading widely and spreading, and you can hear the drop of a needle.
Many people begin to breathe rapidly.
Professor Liu Yiping’s question can no longer be described as sharp!
Professor Liu Yiping clearly pointed out that what Academician Zeng gave was the opinion of consultation.
The consultation opinions are for reference only, right? They are not orders. Do you have any brains? Are you a professor?
If you are a doctor and just follow orders, then what kind of professor are you?
The remote consultation opinion means that Academician Zeng did not see the patient in person, did not conduct a physical examination in person, did not participate in previous diagnosis and treatment decisions, and did not personally participate in all the patient's disease processes.
Without the above, it would be impossible to have a thorough understanding of the patient's condition development and current level by relying on the so-called cases and medical records. You are his attending and responsible doctor, so you take Academician Zeng's words as an imperial edict?
If this is really the case, then just build a remote consultation platform. Why do we need so many hospitals?
Soul torture.
refer to?
Why don't you refer to it based on actual reality?
If executed directly.
Then your diagnosis and treatment process is very problematic.
Of course, Professor Liu Yiping’s words don’t just mean this?
He also combined with what Professor Song said before, they had also seen the previous things with their own eyes.
You can't require radiologists to know orthopedics as well as orthopedists!
Naturally, we cannot expect Academician Zeng, who has never seen a patient, to understand the patient's condition as well as Dong He and others!
If Dong He had just made a reference, he would not have put this thing on the slides to talk about it, and he would have even brought it up to speak at the Orthopedic Annual Meeting, using Zeng Diwei as a knife to design Zhu Jinshan!
Next to Liu Yiping, Chen Xueliang's eyelids jumped when he heard this question.
First, the question that Professor Liu Yiping just asked does not involve any reputation of his master, Academician Zeng. Even if he comes to his master, he will highly appreciate this question.
Critical thinking, combined with reality!
This is the most important quality for learning!
Who dares to say it's wrong?
Second, similarly, this question completely wiped away the embarrassment caused by Professor Zhu's previous question. Instead, it transferred all the pressure to Dong He and the Provincial People's Hospital.
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In an instant, Dong He's back and vest were covered with sweat, and he couldn't find the right words to answer for a while!
The fine sweat on my forehead also slowly began to condense and began to spread.
But he only hesitated for more than ten seconds before replying: "Thank you, Professor Liu, for your question."
"As I said before, we consulted Academician Zeng's opinions and combined it with the patient's own wishes. Patients and their families carefully choose to undergo joint fusion based on their own family conditions and their own tolerance for the prognosis."
"They hope that they can sacrifice joint mobility in exchange for savings in medical expenses."
"Although I also know that the best treatment for patients is a win-win situation. But what kind of treatment is not decided by us doctors, but the patient's own choice."
"I believe that all the colleagues present here also have a deep understanding of this, right?"
Dong He's answer was very beautiful and diverted everyone's attention very well.
He moved the problem from the doctor to the patient!
Which doctor has not encountered strange cases?
It's even a bit excessive. Even the time to enter and leave the operating room must be discussed and determined with you. It is said that a fortune teller has been asked by a master to tell you when to go in and when to come out. It is absolutely safe and can be done.
Guaranteed wealth and wealth.
Then there are situations where the master gets hit in the afternoon...
After Dong He trembled and answered bravely.
Professor Liu Yiping added: "Thank you Professor Dong for your answer. I will be greedy and ask one more question today."
"I would like to ask Professor Dong, since you are only referring to it during the diagnosis and treatment process, which guideline did you refer to? Whose plan did you refer to, and when was the guideline? When was the plan?"
After Liu Yiping finished speaking, he put down the microphone and looked at Dong He quietly on the table without looking in the direction of Zhu Jinshan!
However, Professor Liu Yiping's words were like a sharp sword, reaching straight towards Professor Xu, Zhu Jinshan and other people from the Shonan University Affiliated Hospital!
It cannot be said that the consultation opinion of an academician is more credible than the general knowledge of everyone at the moment!
This is absolutely impossible?!
No academician has ever had such an idea.
No one would talk like that.
But, let me ask you, since academicians cannot act against the principles and guidelines? Then which guidelines should you refer to? Whose plan?
How can we effectively treat this complex knee joint infection at a low cost to the patient?
Combined with the last sentence of the previous question.
It is better to have no books than to have faith in books!
Think about it yourself?
You know, Dong He's lecture lasted only twenty minutes.
Fifteen minutes for sharing and five minutes for Q&A.
Before Liu Yiping stood up, Professor Zhu's words of praise and Professor Xu's words of encouragement were still lingering in everyone's ears:
"First of all, I'm not here to ask questions."
"Second, no matter what experts or academicians they are, they must have the most sufficient evidence before they can perform surgery."
"In your case, no matter what the situation is, joint cleaning and revision are the best options. Even if Academician Zeng is standing in front of me now, that's the truth."
Therefore, on the surface, it seems that Liu Yiping is targeting and embarrassing Dong He, but in fact, he is pointing his sword at other places.
Who wouldn't be able to criticize a mulberry tree and a huai tree at this venue?
Who can not understand?
After a few seconds, Dong He didn't answer Liu Yiping's question.
There was no way to answer, but Liu Yiping's eyes met him, and he could only bite the bullet and said: "Professor Liu, I really can't answer this question for you. Because before the operation, we went through all the guides.
All standardized treatment principles have not been found to have clear regulations on the situation in this case!"
"Our surgical plans and decisions are made on a temporary basis after extensive discussions in the department."
"If I have to give one guideline and principle, it would be individualized treatment. According to the patient's condition, be prepared to respond at any time. I wonder how Professor Liu would make a choice when encountering such a problem?"
Dong He threw the question back, begging for mercy in the song, should everyone just let this topic go?
Liu Yiping said: "Thank you Professor Dong for your answer. Regarding this patient's situation, I will try my best to consider social and economic factors and choose joint fusion and amputation!"
"Even if it's cruel!"
Professor Liu Yiping, after saying this, sat down again.
However, after Professor Liu Yiping sat down, Professor Xu, Professor Song, and Professor Kong all felt on pins and needles. They all raised their hands, as if they wanted to chase Dong He and continue to ask questions.
But in fact, everyone knows that their purpose is to answer Professor Liu Yiping's previous question.
When Dong He saw this scene, he suddenly felt like a catastrophe was coming!
If, today, old-timers like Professor Liu Yiping and Professor Song were fighting, then he would be standing on the knife's edge, at the forefront of the storm, with no one around him. He already regrets taking out this case. His original intention was not
so……
Professor Zhu Jinshan also had the same thoughts as Liu Yiping.
He was also in high spirits, so he fell into Dong He's pit. Fortunately, Professor Xu helped him, but now?
It seems that Professor Xu also fell into the trap because of his "excitement".
Now, there is no winner in this invisible struggle!
If Liu Yiping wins in the end, several old professors will think that Liu Yiping is being aggressive and is here to cause trouble! At this age, they have long stopped working in clinical practice and just want to spend the rest of their lives safely.
When you come to an academic conference, you come to support the occasion, not to compete for fame or fortune.
But not here to cause filth.
Old people have the same name!~
But if a few old professors win in the end and have to argue over whether Academician Zeng Diwei’s consultation opinion is right or wrong, then Mr. Zeng may not personally take the case to the Department of Orthopedics half a month later.
Talking about it at the annual meeting.
Let comrades across the country comment on what is right and wrong!
By then, it will be even more difficult for this matter to end. Although this possibility is very low, it is not ruled out.
As the chairman of the conference, Zhu Jinshan's scalp was slightly numb, so he asked: "Professor Kang, the case brought by Professor Dong today is still very impactful, but due to time constraints, how about we discuss the academic case
Should the matter be placed during the tea breaks of the first and second quarters of the second half of the conference?"
Although Zhu Jinshan interrupted, Professor Xu still stood up and asked the staff for a microphone.
The staff was helpless and looked at Zhu Jinshan. In the end, they could only hand the microphone to Professor Xu!
After Professor Xu took the microphone, he looked directly at Professor Liu Yiping: "Professor Liu, regarding the question you just asked, I still have some questions to ask you."
"Individualized treatment is a common topic in all medical disciplines, and that's right."
"In fact, I can say without shame that the guidelines we think of now are 100% wrong. None of them are right. Even the indications and contraindications for surgery we currently follow are actually wrong."
"Then can we disobey it?"
"The cases we encounter in reality are not written according to textbooks and guidelines, so is our arbitrary treatment desirable and correct?"
"If all treatments are understood in terms of individualized treatment, then who will ultimately guarantee the patient's rights and interests?"
"If there is no objective criterion, will we doctors be wrong at any time in the process of practicing medicine?"
"Our medical laws stipulate that we have the right and obligation to provide patients with the best medical resources and the best medical advice. We must ensure the lives and health of the people!"
"Then we don't need to refer to it?"
“If we don’t have the same guide, why don’t we refer to the existing guide?”
"Joint infection, even a complicated infection, is not an absolute indication for joint fusion, is it?"
Mr. Xu knew that Professor Liu Yiping's words were aimed at him, so he fought back one by one.
It even brought the topic to a very high level all at once. If there are no guidelines, can we not follow the guidelines?
If it is better to believe in books than to have no books at all, then why not read them?
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When Mr. Xu asked back, Zhou Chengcheng noticed that Luo Yun's brows were furrowed, as if he was thinking about how to reply.
Because Professor Xu's question left many pitfalls, he didn't know if Liu Yiping noticed it.
Luo Yun looked at Liu Yiping's movements with a little worry, as if he was worried that Liu Yiping would raise his hand immediately. This question actually needs to be thought about a little more carefully.
Seeing Luo Yun's troubled expression, Zhou Cheng whispered in Luo Yun's ear for a while.
After Luo Yun heard this, he immediately looked at Zhou Cheng in surprise: "Is that appropriate?"
Zhou Cheng then said: "Teacher Luo, if this doesn't calm down, it won't do any good if we get into a fight. It's actually just a misunderstanding. We can only calm things down first, and then we can talk slowly later."
When Luo Yun heard this, he stood up directly and waved to the staff holding the microphone.
But the staff, all graduate students, walked towards Luo Yun, but did not dare to hand the microphone to Luo Yun. They just looked at Zhu Jinshan next to Luo Yun, waiting for his instructions and orders!
Zhu Jinshan's head was spinning at the moment. First it was Liu Yiping, which brought the topic of Dong He's provocation to an explosive point, and now there's Luo Yun.
Moreover, these two happened to be Zeng Diwei's students. You can't even call them him, they are simply big-headed.
Who knows what Luo Yun will say now?
However, in the end, Zhu Jinshan still couldn't bear everyone's gaze. He could only temporarily stop the idea of the next speaker coming to the stage to teach, and then said: "I have invited Dr. Luo from the Eighth Hospital."
As Zhu Jinshan spoke, he saw Professor Liu Yiping pause when he was about to stand up after hearing him ask Luo Yun to speak, and then turned around and looked back.
After Luo Yun took the microphone, he said without hesitation: "Professor Zhu, Professor Dong, actually, I personally feel that the issues that Professor Liu and Senior Xu just argued about are a little one-sided.
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"First of all, all our guidelines and principles are designed to protect the patients' right to life and health while ensuring the rights of our doctors themselves at special times!"
"In this particular case, I think arthrodesis is a good choice as a transitional surgery between knee septic arthritis debridement and knee surface replacement surgery."
"Every professor must know that the therapeutic effect of arthrodesis on joint infection is very obvious. This is a classic treatment method for joint infection."
"Only in recent years have we gradually abandoned it because of its negative consequences of significantly reducing the quality of life of patients!"
"It is undeniable that other aspects of our modern medicine are developing rapidly. For example, our joint replacement and joint revision surgery have developed into a brand new field."
"At this time, it is actually a cliché to say that it is advisable to put some operations that we have given up back on the operating table as a transition. After all, its curative effect is real."
"Compared with the high cost of multiple debridement and drainage and the use of special antibiotics, fusion surgery does have economical and affordable value! This is undeniable."
"However, short-term functional loss can reduce a patient's financial burden to a range they can bear. This is actually the meaning of our doctors. When objective conditions are limited, we can find unique ways to deal with it.
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"Joint replacement after arthrodesis is a bit more complicated, but it is also a good option. It is not difficult to perform joint replacement under sterile conditions to reshape joint function."
"Of course we have to respect the rules Professor Xu said."
"We must also adopt the personalized treatment plan mentioned by Professor Liu!"
"Professor Xu, Professor Liu, what do you think?" Luo Yun looked at the two of them with a smile.
Adult thinking is more important to solve problems than to make things bigger, or to strive for fame and fortune for oneself. This is not just a matter of being in harmony!
It's a compromise, no one is right, no one is right.
By the way, I also pretend to be a bitch, which is the best of all three.
After hearing what Luo Yun said, Professor Xu had a strong desire to beat him. What is joint resection after arthrodesis and joint replacement? Is it not difficult to reshape joint function?
Who are you?
Of course, this is what I thought in my heart. Since the young doctor has left an escape route for both of them and found such a compromise, he will not accept it and insist on saying right or wrong.
The reason why we want to discuss right and wrong is because of Zhu Jinshan’s reputation. As a veteran of Xiangnan University, of course he must protect him. Otherwise, if today’s incident is spread, how can he still hang out outside?
Even Zhu Jinshan is not easy to get along with in the provincial circles.
Liu Yiping was also very satisfied with the result. In the end, Luo Yun came forward to solve Professor Xu's problem. He didn't want to cause more trouble. He came to Hunan Province this time not to quarrel. If it weren't for his teacher, he must
Come forward, he will not come to fight this vanguard.
Joint fusion and then joint replacement is such a weird idea that most people would never think of it. There is something wrong with Luo Yun's brain circuit.
Because after arthrodesis, not many people undergo joint replacement.
Patients don't know how to do it, and there are very few people who dare to do it. But Liu Yiping really doesn't know if Luo Yun can do it, because he can't find out the details of his junior brother. When he was at Zeng Diwei's place, Luo Yunna
Do it right before surgery.
Nothing has gone wrong, but I feel bottomless...
When Zhu Jinshan heard Luo Yun's words, the corners of his mouth twitched for a while, and he quickly said: "Thank you Dr. Luo for your answer, and thank you Professor Liu and Teacher Xu for their wonderful questions. Let us relive the battle between classic surgery and new surgery."
Turn around.”
"Today's academic feast is definitely a gluttonous feast, but the more delicious ones are yet to come..."
When he said this, he glanced at Saul Yun and cursed in his heart: Damn it, I have a bad reputation for being so talkative, and I have to be faked by others.
It’s so fucked up…
The crowd began to commotion and began to discuss, where is the Eighth Hospital?
After joint fusion surgery, can I still send patients there?
This Doctor Luo...
Luo Yun sat down. Next to him, Zhou Cheng continued to sit upright. He opened his notebook to a new page and carefully wrote down the speaker's topic. This scene made Luo Yun feel like he wanted to crush Zhou Cheng to death.
The impulse...
How can you still take these notes with your abilities?
What do you think?
I'm afraid everyone present doesn't know that the dispute between Professor Xu and his senior brother was orchestrated by Zhou Chenglai!
An abandoned technique became a transit point...
Zhou Cheng didn't notice Luo Yun's eyes. He rubbed his tired hands carefully, then quickly raised his ears and listened carefully.
Starting tomorrow, I am going to try out the work, and the number of updates will be reduced in the future!