Lu Minghao was surprised when he heard that Liu Haotian actually wanted to discuss philosophy and life ideals with Liu Zilong.
He didn't quite understand what kind of trick Liu Haotian was playing. After all, Liu Haotian's main task today was to break through Liu Zilong's psychological defense and get him to explain his problems and the situation he had grasped. However, Liu Haotian not only did not directly interrogate Liu Zilong, but instead
If you want to talk about life and philosophy with Liu Zilong, what is the operation?
Although there is indeed a way to communicate and make friends with criminal suspects in interrogation techniques to break through the other party's psychological defenses, Liu Haotian just used provoking methods. Lu Minghao could hear it from the conversation between the two just now.
, Liu Haotian seems to know that Liu Zilong is very grateful to his alma mater and has always been proud of his alma mater, and Liu Haotian's provocation is obviously to force Liu Zilong to talk to him about philosophy, life and ideals.
Liu Haotian's first wave of operations greatly exceeded Lu Minghao's expectations.
Lu Minghao could only observe silently.
Liu Haotian smiled slightly: "Liu Zilong, who is the old one and who is the young one? Let's decide through philosophical thinking.
Confucius said in the Analects: A gentleman is likened to righteousness, and a villain is likened to benefit. Both Confucius and Mencius believed that righteousness and benefit are contradictory, and they emphasized valuing righteousness and despising benefit. Xunzi advocated righteousness before benefit, while Mozi advocated righteousness and benefit.
They are consistent. Faced with these ancient opinions, what do you think about justice and benefit?"
After Liu Zilong heard what Liu Haotian said, he suddenly showed a look of shock, because for him, a top student in the philosophy department, the difference between justice and benefit is an extremely difficult issue, but Liu Haotian, a science major, had to argue with himself
For a philosophy student to debate this issue, wouldn't it be just trying to do what they like?
Thinking of this, Liu Zilong sneered and said: "Liu Haotian, whether it is Confucius, Mencius or Mozi Xunzi, their views and theories are all based on the judgments made in their special era.
While world history is constantly moving forward, the philosophical speculation on justice and benefit is also constantly advancing.
Maslow's demand theory believes that human needs gradually appear from low to high due to the influence of economic conditions. The lowest needs are material needs. Only when basic material needs are met, high-level needs beyond the economy will appear.
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Speaking of this, Liu Zilong said with disdain: "Liu Haotian, do you understand what Maslow's needs theory is? If you don't understand, then what I just said is equivalent to playing the piano to a cow."
Liu Haotian smiled faintly: "Is Maslow's demand theory very advanced? Do you think the ideas of ancient Chinese philosophers are very backward? It seems that you are also a poor person who has been misled by modern Western academics.
Those of you who study philosophy, there are indeed some experts among you, and many of you have even reached extremely high positions and have a great say. However, with all due respect, you have learned too much Western academic thought.
As a result, you always think that Western academic thoughts are authentic academics, and abandon the traditional academic views of our Chinese nation for thousands of years. This leads to you getting closer and closer to the Western worldview and values when judging things.
But you don’t understand one thing. The fundamental reason why the Chinese nation has been able to stand firm for thousands of years, why it has been able to rise strongly despite setbacks and sufferings again and again, and why the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation can be achieved is certain.
It lies in the unique academic and philosophical perspectives of the Chinese nation."
Before Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong interrupted him directly: "Liu Haotian, I don't agree with your point of view. Who said that there are problems with Western philosophical thoughts? The traditional advantage of our Chinese nation is to be eclectic. Foreign academics have
Many viewpoints are very advanced and are not available in our traditional Chinese culture. Do those of us who study philosophy have to have our thinking framed by those traditional, old and corresponding viewpoints?"
Liu Haotian said lightly: "I have never said that. I admit that some Western philosophies and ideas are indeed very excellent, such as Marxism, which is very excellent. However, from what you mean, it seems that it has no influence on Chinese tradition.
Philosophical thought is dismissed.
I am afraid that for people like you, under the misleading of modern Western academics, you must think that whether it is justice or profit, it all belongs to the category of things and is a matter of economic distribution.
However, it is precisely because of your thinking mode that when modern Western society faced a sudden epidemic like the new coronavirus, they only saw benefits and no justice everywhere. This led to their people being in a difficult situation.
In dire straits.
On the other hand, our country controlled the development of the epidemic in just 76 days, making it unique in the world.
Why is this happening? Have you not thought about it?
If you don't understand, I can tell you that it is a distinction between justice and benefit. Our traditional Chinese culture has its own unique perspective.
Righteousness is a matter of the human heart, human nature, and character of mind. The object of concern and research is the inner human nature of the human heart. Profit belongs to the category of things and is an economic issue of efficiency.
In fact, the distinction between justice and benefit is not a simple theoretical speculation, but a matter of industrial division of labor.
The entire social industry is divided into two major parts, one is the industry of justice, and the other is the industry of profit. The two industries have clear boundaries and are independent of each other. Direct contact is prohibited.
The profitable industry refers to all walks of life in the economic field, while the righteous industry is the moral industry. It does not engage in any economic industry, but only provides moral services, and this industry is the political industry.
This industry has a basic political principle in ancient times: do not compete with the people for profit.
Serving the people is the most typical representative.
It is precisely because our country has always respected serving the people that we have excelled during the epidemic. This truly reflects our institutional advantages, theoretical advantages, road advantages and cultural advantages, and then truly demonstrates the four
confidence."
After Liu Haotian finished speaking his point of view, Liu Zilong, a top student in the philosophy department, was speechless, because any point he wanted to refute would be completely refuted by Liu Haotian's statement just now.
At this time, Liu Haotian looked at Liu Zilong with a sneer and said: "Liu Zilong, do you know why you are sitting here being interrogated by the Commission for Discipline Inspection? The reason is very simple. It is because you have the wrong stance on the debate between justice and benefit, or it is the academic choice you have chosen.
Wrong, there is no problem with you agreeing with Maslow’s needs theory, and I also admit that Maslow’s needs theory can indeed guide certain industries to a certain extent, but you have ignored a very critical factor.
That is, Maslow's demand theory emerged based on the social reality of the West. The true essence of this demand theory is to serve the imperialist capitalists and to make Western people willingly accept the exploitation of capitalists.
Of course, we cannot deny that Maslow's demand theory is in line with the general law of the development of individual human needs to a certain extent. For those capitalists, businessmen, and salespeople, it is very helpful for them to master this law to strengthen management. But it is also
That's all.
But what is very tragic is that you use Maslow’s need theory to discuss the difference between justice and benefit, so your tragedy has been doomed from the beginning with your choice.”
After Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong fell silent.
He also began to reflect in his heart, was he really wrong? Was the academic thought and academic theory he had studied for so many years really wrong? Was it the academic thought that was wrong, or was it his personal choice that was wrong?
Just when Liu Zilong was thinking silently, Liu Haotian suddenly said: "Liu Zilong, I know why you refused to explain your problems."
Liu Haotian's words brought Liu Zilong out of his thoughts. He frowned and looked at Liu Haotian.
Liu Haotian said lightly: "Don't you admire Western academic ideas? So today I will quote Fred Yingbo, one of the famous scholars in the American criminal justice community, to explain your motivations at this moment. His original words were "Human beings"
Generally, people will not take the initiative to confess their crimes spontaneously... It is unrealistic to expect the perpetrators to confess their crimes due to torture of conscience without being touched by interrogation." Hans Gross, the originator of investigative science, once said:
To expect everyone to confess their crimes is cruel or at least inhumane.
Because the person being interrogated cannot easily give up his pursuit of interests if he is capable of self-protection."
After Liu Haotian finished speaking, Liu Zilong was stunned. At this moment, even Lu Minghao next to him was shocked by the original words of these big names in the criminal investigation world that Liu Haotian had just said.
In his opinion, it is not surprising that as the deputy secretary of the County Commission for Discipline Inspection, he has some understanding of these views, but Liu Haotian, a man with a background in science and engineering who has never worked in the Commission for Discipline Inspection, is so familiar with these theories.
You can pick it up at your fingertips, this is absolutely extraordinary.
If at first Lu Minghao was still a little dissatisfied and disdainful of Liu Haotian's interference in the Discipline Inspection Commission, then at this moment, the two passages Liu Haotian just quoted have made Lu Minghao put away his contempt for Liu Haotian.
At this moment, Liu Haotian suddenly said: "Liu Zilong, in fact, you also know in your heart that whether you explain the problem yourself or not, as long as we have solid evidence, we can transfer you to the judicial authorities and convict you directly.
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However, you are a person who is very capable of philosophical thinking. I would like to discuss with you carefully whether it is more in your own interests to take the initiative to explain your problems, or whether you refuse to explain and wait for our Discipline Inspection Commission.
Find out your problem before convicting."
Hearing Liu Haotian mention this issue, Liu Zilong smiled disdainfully: "Liu Haotian, there is no need to act with me here. I know that the fundamental purpose of your appearance here is to make me explain the problem. I can tell you clearly now that that is not the case.
possible."
Liu Haotian smiled slightly: "Liu Zilong, how about we make a bet. Within 20 minutes, you will definitely explain the problem."
Liu Zilong smiled with disdain on his face: "Liu Haotian, can you stop dreaming? Do you think I am mentally retarded? Let alone 20 minutes, even if it is 200 minutes or 2000 minutes, I can't let you get what you want."