When Liu Haotian heard Xue Boren's question, he knew that the governor was testing himself again.
Liu Haotian could only smile bitterly, and then said disdainfully: "Governor Xue, I think this business owner's statement is completely sophistry.
First of all, this guy adopts a typical way of substituting the advantages and disadvantages. He attributes technological progress and applications to commercial enterprises and business models, and then attributes the cause and effect, as if after leaving these highly capitalized enterprises, technology will no longer exist.
If progress is made, social efficiency cannot be improved.
This is complete nonsense!
Because these Internet application platforms have nothing of their own core except some big data algorithms. Their application software is from Laomei, the servers they use are from Laomei, and the funds they use are from Laomei. Even
The algorithms they use to so-called improve efficiency are mainly used for big data analysis of user information and then carry out big data killing behaviors!
In essence, although their behavior has a positive side, in actual application fields, these so-called big data algorithms are engaged in evil.
Secondly, the boss of this unicorn company ignored that the economic activities and markets engaged in by these two major Internet application platforms already existed. Take takeout ordering as an example. Before these Internet application companies appeared, some restaurants also provided
Not to mention food delivery services, as for taxi-hailing software, taxis have always existed, and calling taxis by phone also existed before the emergence of taxi-hailing software.
I do not deny that the existence of these Internet application platforms has indeed improved travel efficiency and redistributed wealth. However, whether it is their improvement in efficiency or the redistribution of wealth, it will lead to the destruction of the traditional economy, a large number of jobs and
There is no price to lose wealth.
It can even be said that in the context of financial deepening, the rise of Internet monopoly companies has greatly aggravated the inequality of social wealth on a global scale.
Governor Xue, to be fair, in the past, the monopoly behavior of state-owned enterprises was severely criticized by many so-called wages. However, these people now defend the monopoly of private capital in the name of efficiency, and with it
In sharp contrast, these Internet application platform companies have always avoided talking about issues such as information security and environmental protection.
This is a little inappropriate!
Moreover, these so-called Internet monopoly capitals use encouraging innovation as their signature, but in fact, while these Internet monopoly companies gain commercial advantages, these monopoly capitals stifle many innovations that may have greater social value, and even change innovation.
The nature of technology.
Governor Xue, I believe you should be very clear that Lao America is essentially a special political entity controlled by a financial monopoly group. And today's international political changes more clearly show that Lao America's world hegemony ambitions officially represent the will of the monopoly group.
It can be said that the Internet economy has a huge impact. However, many Internet companies in our country are controlled by capital from the United States or Sushi Country. They have a huge say, which has also led to many Internet companies.
It is managed and invested in accordance with Wall Street rules.
And if we only use indirect management or supervision, or even supervise through fines, we may not be able to achieve good results."
Hearing this, Xue Boren couldn't help but frowned: "Liu Haotian, listen to what you mean, the measures you are taking now in Xilin City, including the three suggestions you put forward, and even those implemented by Haiming City
The measures are not the most ideal ones in your mind, is that what you mean?"
Liu Haotian nodded lightly: "That's indeed what it means. I think that the measures taken by our Xilin and Haiming cities are actually just temporary transitional measures, and these measures are actually treating the symptoms rather than the root cause.
Yes, because these Internet application companies have a strong team of lawyers and a strong network of connections. In our country, I believe Governor Xue should also understand that even if we have formulated relevant regulatory systems and accountability systems, the relevant
Whether the regulatory authorities will implement it seriously is a question on another level.
And what these Internet application platforms are best at is public relations. And they have too many ways to circumvent our supervision."
"Then what do you think we should do about these Internet monopoly platforms?"
Liu Haotian did not directly answer Xue Boren's question, but asked instead: "Governor Xue, I want to ask you, do you know the debate between justice and benefit?"
Xue Boren couldn't help but smile bitterly: "If I say I don't know, will you laugh at me?"
Liu Haotian smiled and shook his head: "I don't dare!"
"It's weird if you don't dare!" Xue Boren was a little dissatisfied.
Liu Haotian chuckled and said nothing.
Xue Boren could only smile bitterly and said: "Okay, let me talk about it briefly. The distinction between justice and benefit is an important issue in the history of traditional Chinese thought. This issue originated quite early. It has been clearly recorded in the documents between Zhou and Qin. The most famous
The most famous allusion is that when Mencius met King Hui of Liang, he said, "Why should we call it profit?" In the two Song Dynasties, Confucian scholars explored the theory of life and destiny, and once again brought the issue of the distinction between justice and benefit to the fore, becoming an important starting point for Confucian Kung Fu. Mr. Yichuan said: "
Mencius distinguished between Shun and Zhi only on the basis of righteousness and benefit." Zhu Zi also taught his students: "Now let me analyze a righteousness and benefit." And Mr. Confucius also said that "a gentleman is compared to righteousness, and a villain is compared to benefit." This way.
Are you satisfied with the answer?"
Liu Haotian quickly flattered the state-owned enterprise: "Governor Xue is indeed very talented and full of economics..."
Xue Boren quickly raised his hand to stop Liu Haotian: "Come on, Liu Haotian, don't give me a thumbs-up here. You can continue to speak. I know that you want to make a fool of yourself. Let me make a fool of myself. You do it."
Yinyu, you kid is so evil and you flatter me, I can't bear it."
Liu Haotian chuckled and said: "Governor Xue, in fact, you just explained it very clearly, so I just added some extra details.
The debate between righteousness and benefit is not only a matter of academic speculation in Chinese culture, but also a question of industrial division of labor and social model. Based on the debate between righteousness and benefit, a righteousness-like industrial division of labor has appeared in our country since the Yao and Shun eras.
The entire society is divided into two major industry categories, one is the "profit industry", and the other is the "liberty industry". The profit industry includes all economic industries, while the charity industry is the political industry, and one joins the government as an official.
In the entire history of mankind, only our country has the debate between justice and benefit, and at the same time, a justice-based industrial division of labor has been formed, which has resulted in an independent political industry, the political industry. Politics is an independent industry and a unique industry, which provides economic benefits.
The industry is an industry that provides ethical services, benevolent services, and moral services. Political industry is ethical services.
Confucianism believes that everyone is an independent subject of mind, an independent thinking subject, an independent subject of judgment, choice and action. Mind is the thinking function, thinking organ, and righteousness is the natural basic attribute of the human heart, that is, human beings
Natural judgment and selection standards. If a person can eliminate external interference and follow his or her own true nature to think, judge and choose, then his behavior will be in line with righteousness, that is, reasonable and polite.
After talking about the debate between justice and interests, let’s go back to the issue of Internet monopoly platform economy.
Now our anti-monopoly is regarded more as an economic issue and a legal issue, not only ignoring its property rights system issues, but also ignoring its historical and cultural issues.
The Internet platform monopoly problem is fundamentally a capital problem and a powerful problem. To truly solve it, it is not enough to just consider the economy and law. Property rights and culture must also be considered.
I think that as Internet application platforms continue to develop and expand, and continue to expand their application scenarios, they have actually taken on industries that argue between justice and profit. Because these industries are related to the national economy and people's livelihood, they cannot pursue profits too much.
It will make people miserable.
Therefore, I believe that in order to solve the excessive profit-seeking nature of Internet applications, at the property rights level, it is necessary to carry out "mixed ownership" reform, allowing state-owned capital to participate in shares, and if necessary, holding a controlling stake, to complete nationalization.
Now when it comes to mixed ownership reform, everyone will take it for granted that it is aimed at state-owned enterprises, allowing private capital to invest in state-owned enterprises to enhance the economic vitality of state-owned enterprises. In fact, today, when private capital has become very powerful, especially in the past
Private capital represented by Internet platforms, enterprise reform cannot only include state-owned enterprises, but must also include private enterprises that can affect the national economy and people's livelihood. Mixed ownership reform applies not only to state-owned enterprises, but also to private enterprises. Mixed ownership should be two-way, not one-way
The direction is to not only let private capital mix with state-owned enterprises, but also let state-owned capital mix with private companies.
The purpose of enterprise reform cannot only be to enhance economic vitality, but also to ensure its ethical attributes and the attributes of serving the people. If private enterprises deviate from their ethics and undermine the interests of the people, then they must carry out reforms at the level of their property rights.
To impose moral constraints on the means.
Of course, this kind of mixed reform must be very cautious. It must be carried out with absolute evidence and with the convergence of public opinion and public opinion. It must be what the people are eager and in demand. It must not only ensure the development of Internet companies
Motivation, but also to establish rules for them, so that capital can no longer be allowed to act recklessly and infringe on the interests of the people.
At the same time, the solution to the capital problem is culture and education. Our country must regain the moral culture and return the moral academic to the core of moral education in our country. This requires deep changes in academics and education."
After Liu Haotian finished speaking, Xue Boren was completely shocked.
He really didn't expect that Liu Haotian would propose two strategic methods one after another.
In particular, the strategy of the mixed-ownership reform plan proposed by Liu Haotian is thought-provoking and enlightening.
Although Xue Boren also saw the seriousness of the problem of Internet application platforms, he never considered the direction of mixed reform.
When Liu Haotian said this, he suddenly felt that the two strategic plans proposed by Liu Haotian were really very feasible plans.
One of these two plans is based on the present, and the other is based on the long term.
Especially what Liu Haotian mentioned, the ultimate goal of reform is to serve the people! This is very important!
Xue Boren was silent. Liu Haotian also became quiet and waited quietly.
What he just said was something he had already thought about deeply.
However, Liu Haotian did not make his two plans public, let alone implement them in Xilin City, because Liu Haotian knew very well that his status was simply not enough to implement such a plan, and he also knew that such a plan
Once it is made public, it will definitely have a huge social effect. And the time is not mature enough now.
Therefore, Liu Haotian only put forward three suggestions as temporary governance strategies. Even so, they attracted strong counterattacks from major Internet application platforms.
At this moment, I don't know when, the clouds outside the window have become dense, and there is quite an aura of black clouds pressing down on the city, and the air seems to have become heavy.