Chapter 591: The old lion is opening his mouth? Lets rely on ourselves!
Buy a plane?
"Mr. Yemelyanov, you probably don't know that our current J-5 is for the navy. If there is a problem and we want to solve it, the navy's funds will be used. If we want to purchase the Su-35,
The Navy won't want it, it can only be used by the Air Force. Our Air Force has no plans to update its equipment for the time being. Therefore, this solution is not feasible. Please think about it again, is there any other way?" Li Ming said very
He quickly reacted and explained like this.
"Yes, this is also a problem." Yemelyanov nodded: "We originally wanted to sell you the most advanced fighter jets in the country. Since you don't want it, then we will exchange it for a two-seat fighter-bomber.
How about the Su-30?”
Using the funds from the export of the Su-27, the Sukhoi Design Bureau has improved the two-seat fighter-bomber Su-30. There are many models of this aircraft. In history, ordinary people exported to the East, like the Su-30
Like the -27 two-seat aircraft, the one exported to Asan is taller. It not only has canards in the front, but also has vector nozzles in the back. Although it only has a lifespan of thirty hours, and although it is purely manual, Asan's heart is still
Satisfied, their Su-30's performance is much higher than Dongfang's!
Now, the Su-30 modified by the Sukhoi Design Bureau has a canard layout. They want to sell this aircraft to the East, so that they can continue to make a lot of money, and they are determined
The idea is to purely export this time and no longer be able to export production lines! To avoid being copied by the Orientals again.
There is nothing to say this time. The Navy also needs powerful fighter-bombers, especially fighter-bombers that require long range! The Su-30 is the best choice for the Navy!
"As long as your navy purchases forty Su-30s, we will solve the flight control problem for you. In fact, you have a simpler way, which is to purchase Su-33s directly from us." Ye Melyan
Nov was extremely happy.
In the past, when the Orientals copied the J-5, the Sukhoi Design Bureau was very angry. Yemelyanov once came angrily to criticize, but it was meaningless. The Orientals also threatened to replace all the parts.
, no longer relies on Sukhoi Design Bureau.
What now? If something goes wrong, don’t we have to come for help? Since we are asking for help, we have to agree to the Sukhoi Design Bureau’s request!
Yemelyanov has secured the Oriental. These forty orders are too precious for Damao. With this funding, the development of their new fighter jets will go more smoothly!
"Is there no other plan?"
"Of course not. If you just want to invite a few of our experts to help solve the problem, it is absolutely impossible." Yemelyanov firmly rejected the requests of several people: "You can only purchase fighter jets.
way to obtain technology export licenses, and you also know that we have been very lenient towards your copycat behavior."
Sun Chong had no other choice but to rush back to Huangdi Village. It was already late at night. He did not report to Wu Shengli, but first introduced these plans to Luo Yang and others.
"Isn't this old man too cruel?" After hearing this request, everyone exploded.
"Forty aircraft, each worth at least 50 million, which is two billion US dollars, or even more expensive. Where does the Navy get so much money?"
"That is, they are sure that we are not capable of solving the technology, so they ask us to spend huge sums of money to purchase it!"
They thought that they would be yelled at by Lao Maozi, but what they thought of was that Lao Maozi asked for tens of millions of dollars in technical consulting fees. Now this kind of request of billions of dollars is really too much!
Sun hurriedly spoke hesitantly: "Actually, our navy does need a batch of fighter-bombers. If the navy can purchase a batch, we can also survey and map the above technology, and it will be easier for us to develop a two-seat fighter-bomber ourselves."
"When the Navy wants to purchase, the Navy first has an intention, then goes through systematic demonstrations, and finally makes the purchase. Our Navy has to be proactive. Now we are passive in purchasing. If word gets out, won't the Navy be laughed at in the future?
?" Luo Yang said: "And what about us? Because of our incompetence, the Navy was forced to purchase a batch of fighter jets. Do we still have face? There is no need to report this news to the Navy! If the Navy is forced to do this
, I would rather resign than be angry with you!"
Luo Yang's attitude was very determined.
"If we don't do this, what can we do?" Sun hurriedly asked.
"Go to the 611 institute and ask them for help. Even if we are in competition, the 611 institute belongs to us and is our own! We will solve the problem ourselves and don't let the old fools take advantage of us!"
Sun hastily sighed: "Yes, this is the only way we can do it now. We are treating a dead horse as a live doctor. I hope the technical experts from the 611 Institute can find the cause of the malfunction for us."
The telegram asking for help was sent out in the middle of the night. On the evening of the next day, experts from the 611 Institute arrived at the base of Huangdi Village. The leader of the team was Yang Wei, the leader among the young people from the 611 Institute.
"Gong Yang, thank you for coming to help." Luo Yang greeted him: "We can no longer find the program bug. I hope you can help solve it."
"This aircraft is related to the Navy's aircraft carrier strength. We will definitely go all out. Now, please give us the flight control laws."
Hearing Yang Wei's words, the people present were a little embarrassed: "Gong Yang, we haven't fully understood the flight control laws yet."
What?
Yang Wei looked at everyone in surprise: "If you don't understand it thoroughly, how did you write the flight control software?"
"We just transplanted the flight control software from the prototype and made simple modifications."
Yang Wei frowned: "This is troublesome."
Americans do not touch the canard layout. On the one hand, it is because of the powerful engines, and on the other hand, the control of the canard layout is not linear. It is difficult to program the flight control system. The reason why the 611 can defeat the J-10 is because they have been fighting for N years.
They have already understood the flight control laws thoroughly. Later, they also conducted a lot of experiments on the Iron Bird test bed to try to be foolproof. The first flight of the J-10 was statically unstable, which fully demonstrated their technical skills.
However, other units cannot.
The Su-27 fighter jet is still too big for the 601 Research Institute. Although they have tried hard, they still cannot fully understand its flight control in a short time. The Navy is eager to get it, so it can only transplant the flight control directly.
Their fault investigation only looked for software defects, but did not connect them with the aerodynamic layout of the aircraft. Finding the cause of the fault in this way was like looking for a needle in a haystack.
"Gong Yang, what should we do now?" Sun hurriedly asked.
"Take its model and let's go to the wind tunnel."
What?
Everyone was immediately dumbfounded.
"Gong Yang, this is just a last minute move! Isn't it a little late for us to go to the wind tunnel now?"
"Yes, how long will this delay?"
Everyone is unwilling.
"Everyone, if you want to find out why the plane suddenly pitched up, you have to study the situation at the time. We don't need to use comprehensive wind tunnel data. We just need to blow the situation at the time and simulate it, and then compare it with the flight control data.
Find out what happened. Since you can't find the cause of the malfunction, then we are here and can't even find it!" Yang Wei explained.
Everyone was a little silent.
As soon as Yang Wei came, he proposed a completely different fault finding route than them. Moreover, if you think about it carefully, this route is really more thoughtful than them. There is no point in continuing to check the code. It is better to go to the wind tunnel.
Use a blow tunnel to identify the problem.
"Okay, then let's go to the wind tunnel!"
The location of the accident investigation was moved from Wasteland Village to Wind Tunnel.
If you want to develop aircraft, you must have a wind tunnel. Due to the Western blockade, the country was forced to build a large number of wind tunnels. In later generations, they even became the first in the world. Since the landing speed of aircraft carriers is not very fast, there is no need for them.
Special hypersonic wind tunnel, just go back to Shenyang.
In 1960, the country's first supersonic wind tunnel FL-1 was put into use at the Shenyang Aerodynamics Research Institute. Hundreds of products were tested numerous times in this wind tunnel.
Now, this wind tunnel once again welcomed a special guest. A scaled-down fighter model was put in and the situation at that time began to be simulated.
Yang Wei devoted himself wholeheartedly. Although he was not familiar with the Su-27 fighter, he was familiar with the fly-by-wire flight control. As long as he blew out the data and combined with the feedback from the fly-by-wire system, he could better find the cause of the failure.
Don't be anxious about this, he has enough patience.
However, Lao Maozi couldn't sit still.
"Mr. Li, how are your navy's considerations going?" Yemelyanov came to Li Ming's office again and asked him.
"The Navy is still having a meeting. After all, the request you made is too sudden. It is not easy to spend such a large sum of money. It must go through a lot of investigation and demonstration. It is very likely that we will need to send people to your place.
Investigation." Li Ming said: "Please don't be anxious."
"Isn't your navy anxious? All your J-15s have been grounded!" Yemelyanov said.
The outside world doesn't know about this kind of thing, but people in related industries can quickly find out the clues. As long as there are reconnaissance satellites scanning the sky, they will know.
"The Navy is also anxious." Li Ming said: "If you lower your requirements, for example, let us purchase two Su-35s first, I think the Navy will definitely approve it immediately."
Two planes? Of course two planes won’t work! If the Orientals only purchase two planes, there must be a conspiracy! It must be for surveying and mapping purposes!
"You can't eat hot tofu in a hurry, old friend, you are too anxious." At this moment, a voice came from outside.
Hearing the sound, Yemelyanov turned his head and saw a familiar figure.
"Mr. Qin?"
Qin Tao had completed his inspection of Shuangyang Factory and made various arrangements. After he came back, he heard that the accident investigation had not been completed yet, so he came over to join in the fun.
Wu Shengli and Qin Tao came together, but they had already gone to the wind tunnel. Qin Tao came alone and happened to hear the conversation inside.
"You are so anxious, do you plan to use this money as research and development funds to develop a new fighter jet?" Qin Tao said with a smile.
"Mr. Qin, I will not hide it in front of you. The plan you proposed last time is very good. It allows us to upgrade to a stealth machine in the simplest way. Therefore, we want to carry out such a transformation, but we must
Spend a lot of money on research and development.”
"Have you ever considered international cooperation?" Qin Tao continued, without giving the other party more time to think: "For example, if you cooperate with us, let us jointly complete the research and development and technology sharing of new fighter jets. By then,
We can equip it together, which is very popular in Europe."
Li Ming's eyes widened. Mr. Qin is so awesome. This suggestion is great!
601 is working hard to understand the technology of the Su-27. However, this world-advanced fighter jet far exceeds their research and development capabilities, so progress is slow. Now, if we cooperate with Damao, we can learn from it.
I gained a lot of useful experience.
By mastering various technologies during research and development, Institute 601 will be able to simultaneously transition to the level of fourth-generation machines in no time.
"That's right." Li Ming nodded: "Currently, we each have our own strengths in technology. You have technology in the airframe and flight control, and we are very advanced in avionics, such as flat-panel gap radar, glass cockpit, etc.
, we can best complete this project by working together!”
Although Da Mao's aerodynamic design is excellent, the avionics are a piece of shit. It is best for both parties to cooperate and get what they need.
These suggestions were like a barrage, leaving Yemelyanov with a very short time. However, Yemelyanov did not hesitate at all and immediately shook his head: "No, no, if we want to cooperate,
We cannot adopt the European type of cooperation."
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading! European fighter planes are jointly developed and share technology. For Mao, this kind of cooperation is definitely not possible!
"Really? What kind of cooperation do you plan to use?" Qin Tao asked curiously.
"You provide the funds, we provide the technology, and when the research and development is completed, you can order from us at the best price!"
Qin Tao smiled and shook his head. This old man was indeed a thief. Even though he suggested so quickly without giving the other party any time to breathe, the other party did not fall for it. Such a firm attitude is a model of adhering to principles.
"It is impossible for us to accept this method. It is enough for you to fool Ah San." Qin Tao was also straightforward.
We have invested funds, but we still can’t get any technology, and we still have to place orders in the end. So what do we want?
Only someone like Ah San would be fooled.
"Thank you, Mr. Qin, your suggestion is good!" Yemelyanov actually followed Qin Tao's suggestion!
He didn't give the other party any advice, he just said it casually, and Qin Tao was speechless.
"Since you listened to my suggestion, what benefits are you going to give me?" Qin Tao continued to ask.
Now it was Yemelyanov's turn to be embarrassed. He thought for a moment and then said: "You want to purchase Tu-22M. There are many voices of opposition in the country. Our Sukhoi Design Bureau is willing to fully support you."
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It's just a matter of words, and it doesn't cost money. Hearing what the other party said, Qin Tao also felt a little emotional. The old man has been in Dongfang for a long time, and he has learned bad habits! He has learned the style of Dongfang.
However, now that this matter is mentioned, Qin Tao has to inquire: "The Tu-22M is not an advanced stealth bomber. This kind of aircraft has long been outdated. You have a large number of second-hand aircraft.
It gradually turns into scrap metal, but you can still make money by selling it. What do these people who object to it think?"
"They believe that this kind of bomber with the ability to fly at ultra-low altitude will pose a threat to us." Yemelyanov said: "It has a large bomb load and a long range."
"If we want to purchase, what we need most is a naval bomber, a model that can carry anti-ship missiles to attack the aircraft carrier fleet. This type of bomber, which is specialized in attacking the sea, should be able to dispel some people's thoughts, right?"
Yemelyanov thought for a moment, then nodded: "Yes, if that is the case, it will indeed reassure some people. In fact, the Tu-22M is already outdated. If you want to purchase bombers, we
The Su-30 is also good. And if you use the Su-30, you don’t need to be escorted by fighter jets. You can still fight in aerial combat when encountering enemy fighter jets, and its performance is no worse than the Tu-22M.”
"But your aircraft is expensive." Qin Tao said: "The Tu-22M is a second-hand product, and the price will definitely be much cheaper. Now that our military expenditure is tight, we simply cannot invest in purchasing the Su-30. You should know this.
, we will not consider this kind of fighter-bomber until our domestic third-generation aircraft fleet has expanded to a certain extent. Please rest assured that if we choose to outsource fighter-bombers, the Su-30 is our only choice."
Yemelyanov nodded.
"My mouth is dry, Mr. Yemelyanov, how about we go have a drink?" Qin Tao suggested.
Yemelyanov nodded: "Okay, Mr. Qin, we haven't had a drink together for a long time."
After a drink, Yemelyanov went back to work in Factory 112 with satisfaction, while Qin Tao continued to communicate with Li Ming and others.
"Mr. Qin, please rest assured that the team we sent out will definitely find out the cause of this accident." Li Ming knew that Qin Tao was here for this matter and immediately made a guarantee.
Qin Tao nodded: "Some people say that our J-31A project will compete with the J-15. Mr. Li, what do you think?"
Li Ming hesitated for a moment, wondering what Qin Tao's purpose was. After hesitating for a moment, he said: "Our J-15 project was promoted by Mr. Qin. Without you, we would not be able to do this at all."
It is impossible to get involved in the carrier-based aircraft project. Many difficulties encountered during the research and development process were also overcome by Mingzhou Group. Therefore, even if the J-31A is to replace our J-15, we have no objections.
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Qin Tao shook his head: "That's not what I'm talking about, Mr. Li, analyze it from a technical perspective!"
Technical perspective?
Li Ming thought for a moment and spoke tentatively: "Our J-15 is only a third-generation aircraft, and the J-31A is already a fourth-generation aircraft, so..."
Qin Tao reminded him several times in a row, but the other party failed to understand it. Therefore, Qin Tao simply gave up this kind of temptation and went straight to the topic: "Mr. Li, which one do you think is more suitable for our navy, heavy fighter or medium fighter?"
Heavy and medium duty?
"The Americans are gradually phasing out the Tomcat fighter jets. The F-18 that will replace it should be a medium-sized fighter jet. Lao Maozi also intends to use the MiG-29K to replace the Su-33..."
Qin Tao shook his head again: "No, I'm talking about our navy."
Our navy?
Li Ming looked at Qin Tao with some surprise: "Our navy currently only has one aircraft carrier. In terms of quantity and quality, quality should be more important, right?"
After being rejected several times in a row, Li Ming gradually discovered Qin Tao's purpose and was secretly happy.
"The air time of a heavy fighter jet and the amount of ammunition it can carry are far more than that of a medium-sized fighter jet, and the number of takeoffs and landings can be reduced. For our navy, the J-15 is currently the best choice, even if
When it comes to catapult-type fighters, heavy-duty aircraft still have comprehensive advantages." Qin Tao said: "Now, for you, you don't need to consider whether the Navy will eliminate the J-15. This is completely groundless worry. You need to concentrate on it.
Improve the J-15 and make it more powerful!"
"Please rest assured, Mr. Qin!" Li Ming was very happy, and a big stone in his heart was relieved!
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading! Recently, the J-31A has been moving frequently, and its test flights have gone very smoothly. It is expected to be put into production in two years. Mingzhou Group is still trying to acquire the Shuangyang Factory and plans to manufacture it by itself.
fighter planes, and the Huangdi Village base has currently allocated a J-31A to it, intending to use it as a test aircraft for catapult takeoff. Under this situation, countless people have speculated that the Navy is giving up on the J-15?
After all, the J-15 is a third-generation aircraft and has no stealth capabilities!
"Your catapult fighter must be developed as soon as possible and participate in testing. At the same time, if the aircraft can be improved, it must be further improved. Moreover, these improved technologies can also be used in the localization of the J-11. We are almost going to
Have you completed the localization of supporting equipment?"
"That's right." Li Ming nodded: "The batch of aircraft we are assembling now have long been outdated, so we are currently preparing for upgrading, using flat-panel aperture radar to replace the flip-up radar, cockpit replacement, titanium alloy and composite materials
The usage has greatly increased, and the digital telex we used on the J-15 has been transplanted..."
Speaking of this, Li Ming was very excited. Now, they only rely on assembly. The J-10 of the 611 Institute has been born, and they have to improve it! After such a nationally produced fighter comes out,
It can prove that they are still capable in this field.
"Except for the engine, which cannot be replaced for the time being, we can replace everything else with domestic products," Li Ming said.
The research and development of the turbofan X is still lagging behind, with frequent failures during the ground bench test, so they have no plans to use the turbofan X, and have to continue to use the third uncle. The only mature one in China currently is the turbofan XV.
But the replacement is too complicated, and the 15th turbofan only has a large thrust, and the thrust-to-weight ratio and other data have not changed much.
"Engines have always been our weakness, and we have to continue to work hard in this area." Qin Tao said: "However, we cannot be anxious. An unqualified engine will destroy our fighter planes. We must be cautious when replacing engines. But
We cannot have a situation where F-15 fighter jets are grounded on a large scale because of unreliable engines. If we continue to purchase engines in this way, we will make some money, and we will not be too resistant to our improvement projects."