Chapter 682: Local chickens are going to be invited to bid? No participation!
What Mr. Lin asked was whether Qin Tao could give them a stealth machine so that they could be in the limelight, but Qin Tao had more to think about. After hearing his question, Mr. Lin also began to think deeply.
The J-10 fighter is a key project supported by the Air Force. It is a high-low match with the J-11. One is imported and imitated, and the other is independently developed. It walks on two legs and is very stable. If you want to say which aircraft the Air Force likes, it’s hard to say.
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After the J-11 was mass-produced that year, many people in the Air Force unanimously supported the J-11. They even thought that the J-10 project could be abandoned and it would be better to free up funds to purchase a few more J-11s.
But Mr. Lin firmly supports the J-10. No matter how good the J-11 is, it is not his own. Its potential is limited. The entire set of technologies of the J-10 is his own, and he must step down. Otherwise, the domestic aviation industry will
My self-research ability is completely gone.
Later, the J-10 did not disappoint the Air Force. In the air combat confrontation, the J-10 showed performance that was not inferior to that of the J-11, especially in terms of electronic systems, which surpassed those that could only use the original Laomaozi avionics.
J-11.
Especially during an exercise, the J-11's radar was jammed and became completely blind, while the J-10 could continue to see the target clearly and perform combat missions. The difference between the two aircraft was also reflected.
Although the 601 Research Institute is also working hard to complete the task of replacing the J-11 with domestically produced avionics, the J-10 has also been recognized by the Air Force, and everyone feels that this combination of high and low is the most suitable solution.
As a result, the stealth machine appeared.
At the beginning, this fourth-generation stealth aircraft, which Mingzhou Group raised its own funds and followed the path of international cooperation, did not attract the attention of many people. In their eyes, this thing was just a toy.
However, who would have thought that this aircraft was actually completed, and it showed great strength in the last naval exercise! The Navy immediately made a decision to purchase a batch of them as carrier-based aircraft.
The Navy has entered the era of fourth-generation aircraft, but what about the Air Force? Can the Air Force be worse than the Navy? Can it tolerate the absence of stealth aircraft?
Among the Air Force, the call for fourth-generation stealth aircraft is getting louder and louder.
However, they also have concerns.
This aircraft developed by Mingzhou Group is following the path of international cooperation and will be sold to many countries in the world. This means that there is no secret about this aircraft. Although the Air Force's J-10 does not have stealth capabilities
, but at least it is self-developed and the technical data will not be leaked.
In addition, both 601 and 611 have launched fourth-generation stealth heavy fighter projects, and the Navy feels that it can still wait.
But now, they can't wait any longer.
Should we purchase Mingzhou Group’s stealth aircraft in large quantities?
"Well, we are a little embarrassed. After all, our Air Force has not provided any research and development funds. If we purchase from you now, you will definitely be embarrassed to ask for more money." Mr. Lin began to change the topic.
"Excuse me? What are you embarrassed about? You think the performance of the Flying Leopard fighter-bombers developed by the Navy is good, so don't you want to purchase a batch of them?" Qin Tao directly refuted Mr. Lin's words. This kind of thing
, both the navy and the air force are doing less, let alone anyone else. Mingzhou Group has plenty of money and already has research and development funds, so it doesn't care about this.
As a patriotic military industry expert, how could Qin Tao make money from the army?
Mr. Lin was a little embarrassed: "Come, let's have another drink, and then continue talking."
"Mr. Lin, what exactly do you think?" Qin Tao broke the casserole and asked.
"Mr. Qin, what do you think?" Mr. Lin began to ask, "If we equip a large number of stealth machines, will it be beneficial to us, or will the harm outweigh the benefits?"
"Our production capacity is limited, and your assumption is not valid. If you purchase our land-based stealth aircraft, we will deliver to you at most five to ten aircraft every year, which is only fifty to one hundred aircraft in ten years."
There are many users of this kind of advanced aircraft. Even if the Shuangyang Factory increases its production capacity to the extreme, it is impossible to produce hundreds of aircraft a year, and there will certainly not be many allocated to the Air Force.
Now, the international military aircraft production is generally like this. After the order is placed, the delivery will be like this three to five years. At that time, due to factors such as inflation, temporary price increases are also possible.
Now, after hearing Qin Tao's introduction, Mr. Lin started to think: "If this is the case, then we can purchase according to this scale. At the same time, it will not delay the purchase of J-10. We can buy two medium-sized models
The machine is equipped at the same time.”
"That will lead to complicated logistical support," Qin Tao reminded.
"It doesn't matter. Compared with the advantages of stealth aircraft, this difficulty can still be overcome." Mr. Lin said: "We can simultaneously equip two medium-sized aircraft, and these two aircraft complement each other."
The advantage of the J-10 is the high maneuverability brought by the canard layout. In the case of insufficient power, the J-10 relies on this aerodynamic layout to achieve strong maneuverability. The nose can instantly point to the target airspace and has the ability to hover.
Far surpassing the Su-27 series aircraft, the J-10 is a good hand in combat combat.
At the same time, because there is no need to consider stealth, all the weapons of the J-10 fighter are external. It has eleven pylons. Even if they cannot be mounted all at the same time, it still has a mounting capacity of more than seven tons.
It's close enough and two auxiliary fuel tanks can be mounted.
This is not the case with stealth aircraft. You have to look at the space in the bomb bay of the aircraft. The mounting capacity is greatly limited. The sustained combat capability is not as good as that of the J-10, and the maneuverability is not high.
The Mingzhou Group has never publicized the maneuverability of its fighter aircraft. It is just the average level of third-generation aircraft. After all, it is just a conventional aerodynamic layout. Although the thrust of the engine is large, the weight is also large, and the thrust-to-weight ratio is not high.
This chapter is not finished yet, please click on the next page to continue reading the exciting content! Each of the two types of aircraft has its own advantages. If the Air Force is interested in it, of course it can complement each other's advantages. However, this will lead to complicated logistics support.
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The J-10 and J-11 both use the same engine, which is easier to maintain and maintain. The stealth aircraft does not use the turbofan 15 with the highest thrust in the country. This engine was originally brought back by Qin Tao, but in China
The military aircraft have not been used, and they have been using the third uncle to make up the numbers. Even the two domestic fourth-generation aircraft are planned to use improved models of the turbofan 15.
At this time, Mr. Lin had already made up his mind: allocate part of the funds to purchase fourth-generation stealth aircraft!
"Since the Air Force is so insistent, we welcome it," Qin Tao said.
Procurement by the Air Force is equivalent to having one more customer, which is of course beneficial to them.
"Currently, our production line is producing carrier-based models. We have to wait until the next batch to produce land-based models. We will provide you with up to two aircraft before the end of the year." Qin Tao said: "So, these two aircraft are enough."
It is impossible to form an independent formation to escort the Air Police-2000."
This is really not Qin Tao's interest in safeguarding the navy. The production of fighter aircraft is not easy. The construction of each aircraft often takes more than half a year. This is to improve the assembly efficiency on the pulse production line, so they can only give them two at most.
Orders from the Air Force will still have to wait.
Mr. Lin nodded: "Even if there are two, we still have to fly at the front. By the way, the Navy specifically designated the J-32, and our Air Force also needs to change its name to a resounding name."
This is of course also necessary.
Qin Tao nodded: "The Air Force's name is J-35, how about it?"
This is also in line with his later assumptions: the one that takes off and lands vertically is also called J-31A, which means it is improved from the previous J-31. The other two models are called J-32 and J-35 respectively.
, compared to the Yankees' X-32 and X-35, it has no other practical benefits. It is good just to disgust people.
"Well, then it's called the J-35. Our air force is expected to have a total equipment number of one hundred, and three to four hundred J-10s, which together form the backbone of our air force!"
The output of the J-10 is higher, and the Air Force estimates that the total order quantity will be three to four hundred. After all, this aircraft is much cheaper than the J-11. Together with the J-35, it will form a medium-sized aircraft camp.
Stealth aircraft are used to kick in doors. Once the opponent's door is kicked open, non-stealthy fighters can rush in. The Air Force does not intend to use the J-35 to compete for air supremacy. It is positioned to play a role similar to the F-117, with poor maneuverability.
A little bit is acceptable.
"Then we've decided." Mr. Lin said, "Tomorrow, our Air Force will hold a meeting to discuss the specific issue of purchasing the J-35."
Even if the matter is settled, the wine is only half drunk.
The two clinked their glasses again, and then Mr. Lin continued: "What ideas have you given the Navy about this ceremony? What equipment does the Navy want to display?"
"Mr. Lin, is it inappropriate for you to ask this question here? Besides, you will know when the superiors summarize it."
Teacher Lin is here to trick him into talking, so you can't talk nonsense.
Mr. Lin smiled: "It will be too late by then. Our Air Force cannot be outclassed by them."
Qin Tao shook his head: "I'm sorry, I can't agree to your request."
"Okay, let's put it another way. What do you think about our air force's equipment?"
Giving advice to the Navy during the day has already made Qin Tao very angry, and now, he is actually asked to give advice to the Air Force!
Qin Tao rubbed his forehead: "Okay, let me tell you a few, for example, the air refueling echelon, have you considered it?"
Air refueling? Mr. Lin's eyes lit up.
The Navy has begun to develop carrier-based aircraft, and naval pilots have also begun to become proud, claiming that they are the best pilots. After all, every time a carrier-based aircraft takes off and lands, they are dancing with the god of death. In comparison, the Air Force
The plane seemed to be stable.
If you show aerial refueling acrobatics during the ceremony, it will definitely attract attention!
Speaking of aerial refueling, the navy is most in demand. After all, after taking off from Qiongzhou, it is difficult for the navy's fighter jets to fly to the southernmost part of the motherland's waters and then fly back. Before the J-H-7 was put into service,
It's difficult to fly even half the distance.
Therefore, in the mid-to-late 1980s, the Navy looked at the equipment on hand and decided to use the J-82 as a refueling aircraft, use the H-6 to modify the aerial tanker, and develop aerial refueling technology. By 1991, it finally completed the first
An aerial refueling experiment was carried out. In 1994, the aerial rendezvous refueling experiment was completed. In 1996, the project ended.
However, at this time, the Navy suddenly discovered that this aerial refueling technology seemed to be no longer urgent.
After all, the Navy not only has J-7s capable of cruising the South China Sea, but also has several bases in the south, as well as specialized vertical take-off and landing fighter jets. In addition, the performance of the J-8s is so poor that the Navy has focused on
on the construction of aircraft carrier force.
The Air Force, on the other hand, continues to spare no effort in developing aerial refueling technology.
After all, the Air Force is also transforming from the original homeland air defense type to the offensive and defensive type. At this time, the Air Force needs to conduct long-distance flights. Although the Su-27 does not need to be refueled, the J-10 cannot do it.
At the same time, this is also because Qin Tao helped get a batch of Il-78 aerial refueling aircraft. Therefore, the Air Force has already practiced the cooperation between the J-10 and the Il-78. Now, it has developed this aerial refueling technology.
, it will definitely attract attention!
The first air formation is the Kongjing-2000 and J-35, and the second formation is the Il-78 and the J-10. The two formations are so impressive that even if the navy flies a formation of J-32, it will not be enough.
Nothing to show off!
Mr. Lin was happy now: "Come and drink. If this bottle is not enough, we will open another one!"
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading! Qin Tao smiled: "Okay, let's drink."
After another glass of wine, Mr. Lin continued to ask: "Does the Navy have any plans to pull out the Red Flag 9 missile?"
"I don't know about this, but the Air Force will definitely use Red Flag Nine as the main force in the ground exhibition. Therefore, if the Navy also pulls it out, it will definitely be rejected by the superiors. So, you don't have to worry about this."
It is impossible for one square formation to be the Red Flag Nine of the Air Force and the other square formation to be the Navy's Haihong Flag Nine! Thinking about it, it is impossible. Therefore, Qin Tao can veto this project as long as he involves the decision-makers at his superiors.
dropped.
"That's true. The Navy's most proud thing is the Aegis battleship, but it's a pity that they can't bring it to land." Mr. Lin mentioned this and laughed again.
Over the years, national policies have been changing, and the Navy has been allocated more and more funds. Although everyone knows that this is necessary, they still feel a little unhappy. It is also very good to watch the Navy's jokes.
"By the way, if you have any other ideas, tell me a few more." Mr. Lin raised the bottle again and poured wine for Qin Tao himself.
"What else can I do? I don't know everything. I'm a shipbuilder, but I don't know anything about your air force."
Qin Tao said it carelessly. Shipbuilders don't understand the air force, and he seemed to be very reasonable. But looking at the current development of stealth fighters, and looking at Mingzhou's Shuangyang Factory and Tianjiao Aviation, can he still say that it has nothing to do with aviation?
Mr. Lin smiled and suddenly thought of something: "Mr. Qin, have you heard about the recent events in the Chicken Kingdom?"
"What's the matter?" Qin Tao said that he didn't know. After all, he had been very busy during this period and had no time to take care of other things.
"The Navy of the Turkish Republic suddenly publicly announced a tender, planning to purchase a vertical take-off and landing fighter jet." Mr. Lin said: "Your Mingzhou Group is engaged in this kind of fighter jet, but you didn't actually bid? Are you afraid of missing out on a big deal?
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Inviting bids for vertical take-off and landing fighter jets? Qin Tao shook his head: "I won't go."
Nowadays, there are not many vertical take-off and landing fighter jets in the world! The British Sea Harrier is completely outdated, and the old Yak-38 has been discontinued long ago. If the Turkish Navy wants to invite tenders, it is aimed at its own side. Only
Our own J-31A is the world's most advanced vertical takeoff and landing fighter.
When a native chicken person wants to invite tenders, he is just throwing out bait, hoping that he will take the initiative to come to the door and go to the native chicken man to sell?
Stop dreaming! Now that we don’t have to worry about selling our stealth machines, and our orders have been scheduled for ten years, do we have to rush to find local chickens to sell them?
If you come to the door, the other party should make various demands, such as low price, production technology, etc. The chicken people are the most insincere, and there is no need to sell to them.
"It seems that you are really determined enough." Mr. Lin said with a smile.
"Of course, the Air Force will have to learn from us in the future. If the natives want to purchase air defense systems, there is no need to run over with our Hongqijiu to make up for it. When all the unfavorable conditions are met, the other party gets our missiles and changes hands.
Just sold the technology." Qin Tao said: "We can't do business with such people who break their promises."
Mr. Lin was a little surprised. Mr. Qin probably had conflicts with the Tuji people when they passed through the Tuji Strait last time, right? We haven't done much business with the Tuji people in these years. How did he know that the Tuji people meant what they said?
Untrustworthy?
This incident was just a small episode, and Mr. Lin didn't take it too seriously. The two of them continued drinking and chatting for a while before leaving.
Qin Tao returned home and briefly talked about the matter with Wu Shengli. Wu Shengli could only smile. Everyone was very competitive in this ceremony. If his son-in-law said this, he was not helping the Air Force.
Even if he helped, he could not pursue anything against his son-in-law.
After another day in the capital, Qin Tao took Zhao Ling on the road to Moscow. If the YJ-18 missile was to be exhibited, then he had to act quickly and buy Lao Maozi's club missile.
,is very important.
I haven't seen Nikolai for a long time, and I don't know how he is doing in Moscow.
With such questions, Qin Tao and his party arrived in Moscow. As soon as they got off the plane, he was surprised to see Nicholas standing outside the airport pick-up gate.
"Nikolai, my friend, I didn't expect you to come to pick me up at the airport!" Qin Tao was extremely surprised: "Nikolai, it seems that you are still very relaxed after arriving in Moscow!"
Nicholas smiled: "Qin, I didn't come to pick you up specially. I was planning to go to the Kola Peninsula. I happened to hear that you were coming, so I took you with me."
Kola Peninsula?
Qin Tao understood instantly: "So you are going to inspect the Northern Fleet! Of course you can take me with you! I came at the right time."
Therefore, Qin Tao and others boarded a Tu-154 passenger plane also parked at the airport and flew directly to the Kola Peninsula in the north.
For Qin Tao, flying around by plane has long been a common occurrence, and he didn't feel uncomfortable at all. On the plane, he started chatting with Nicholas.
"Nicola, how are you doing recently?"
"Well, it's not bad, but there are a lot of things to worry about."
"I see that your economy is gradually improving, and the navy will receive more and more funding. In the future, you will definitely regroup and restore the huge fleet of the imperial era." Qin Tao comforted.
"Yes, we are looking forward to that day. However, this time, we still have to solve the problem of the Gorshkov."
Gorshkov?
Of course Qin Tao remembered this warship.
Three of the four Kiev-class ships are destined to him. Now, only the Gorshkov is left. After this aircraft carrier exploded its boiler, it has been docked at the Kola Peninsula. Qin Tao came to see it last time
Yes, the condition is not good at all.
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading the exciting content! Lao Maozi definitely cannot afford to repair this aircraft carrier, so he has made a decision long ago and wants to sell it, but there are only a few buyers.
As long as Ah San is not fooled, there will probably not be another fool in the world.
Lao Maozi couldn't even dismantle it because they didn't have a suitable dock. The most they could do was wash it on the beach. However, the aircraft carrier had a large displacement and it was not convenient to wash it on the beach.
Now, Lao Maozi is actually thinking about this aircraft carrier again. What on earth are they going to do with this aircraft carrier?
Qin Tao was very curious: "How do you plan to solve the problem of the Gorshkov?"
"You'll know when you go there," Nicholas said with a smile.
So Qin Tao stopped asking. He could resist the temptation. In this way, the group came to the Kola Peninsula and the port where the scrapped warships docked. When Qin Tao saw the aircraft carrier from a distance, Qin Tao
I couldn't help but rub my eyes.
On the deck of the aircraft carrier, there is a carrier-based aircraft parked!
That scrapped aircraft carrier is actually going to be used again?
Moreover, that aircraft is not the Yak-38. Its body is even larger, and it still uses a double vertical tail layout! If you look at the rectangular air intakes on both sides, you can tell: Yak-141!
Isn't this project abandoned? Qin Tao remembers clearly that at that time he saw a prototype aircraft crashed on the runway, and the project was terminated. The Jacques Design Bureau only had one training aircraft project left, which was still lingering.
Out of breath, now, they actually built another prototype?
Where do they get their money?
Seeing Qin Tao's shocked expression, Nicholas was very happy: "Qin, I didn't tell you in advance, just to surprise you, our Gorshkov will be revitalized because of Yak-141!
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After being shocked, Qin Tao finally came to his senses and looked at Nicholas: "Are you selling to native chickens?"
Lao Maozi is definitely not using it for his own use. Look, the Kuznetsov has no money to go out for a cruise, and the Gorshkov does not have the funds, not to mention that this warship needs major repairs.
The Tuji people want vertical take-off and landing fighter jets and plan to equip them on their aircraft carriers. Now, Lao Maozi is tempted. Why not just provide the whole set? I did miss out on the Yak-141. I didn’t expect Lao Maozi to have such a unique opportunity.