Chapter 709 Reluctantly agrees to produce D-227 engines
Although the Mingzhou Group is growing stronger and stronger, many things are still done according to the previous rules. Xu Zhengyang is also faithfully fulfilling his obligations. He must accurately report anything that happens to Qin Tao.
Just like this time, Lao Ba said that he would provide the wreckage of the Tomahawk missile, so Xu Zhengyang reported the matter, and then his superiors conveyed the news to the Third Aerospace Institute, which specializes in cruise missiles, so Liu Yong
Came here.
Now, he was very much looking forward to getting the wreckage of this missile, but he didn't expect that Qin Tao actually had other arrangements.
If Mingzhou Group and Lao Ba jointly established a design unit, there would really be nothing wrong with their Third Aerospace Institute. However, they have been working on it for such a long time, and now that they have this opportunity, they absolutely cannot just go back home.
Liu Yong looked at Zhao Ling expectantly, and then Zhao Ling spoke: "Mr. Qin, can we invite some experts from the Third Aerospace Academy to participate in our project?"
The things were made by the Mingzhou Group, and the related technology was also wanted by the Mingzhou Group. Their Third Aerospace Institute is currently in a situation where they cannot touch it at all. Now, if they want to get in touch with the wreckage, there is only one way: as a technology
Consultant, join this R&D team!
Although Qin Tao decided to let his people who work on fighter jets work on this project, they have never been exposed to it after all, and they are starting from scratch. If experts from the Third Aerospace Academy come to help, then Qin Tao's people can quickly master it.
Regarding cruise missile research technology, it can be said that such cooperation is a win-win situation.
As for competition?
By engaging Lao Ba in research and development, they already have customers. The projects of the Third Aerospace Academy are supplied domestically, and the projects jointly developed with Lao Ba are supplied abroad. This does not count as cultivating competitors.
Qin Tao was thinking about Zhao Ling's proposal and felt satisfied in his heart. However, he had not expressed his position yet. Liu Yong, who was sitting opposite him, continued to worry. He thought for a while and then said: "Mr. Qin, we
At present, what is most needed is engine technology, so we can only participate in the research of engines. As for the products developed, they can also be produced by Tianjiao Aviation, which will provide us with cruise missile engines in the future."
"No, Director Liu, you don't have to worry too much. Just follow the plan Xiaoling said. The wreckage that we can access can be accessed by the technicians you sent. We will study the above technology together. Once the research is completed, we can
Share." Qin Tao said.
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"Thank you, Mr. Qin!"
"In this case, we also need to set up a specialized research institution in Shuangyang Factory." Qin Tao said: "Just call it the Long Sword Project. What we have to do now is to forge a long sword that relies on heaven!"
Since the current Changjian-10 is still called Donghai-10, Qin Tao was not polite and asked for the name Changjian.
The engine must be produced at Tianjiao Aviation, but it is just production. As for research and development, it still needs to be in your own hands. After all, Tianjiao Airlines is not your own at the moment. It will take some time until Motorsic goes bankrupt.
Take Genghis Khan into your own hands.
Of course, if we are more ruthless, we can completely bankrupt Prodigy Airlines and then re-establish it, so that it has nothing to do with Motorsic. Considering the current friendly relationship between the two parties, we cannot do that step yet.
"Okay, Mr. Qin, let's prepare immediately. Can we have a team of 100 people?"
One hundred people? Almost all of them can take the lead in the design. The staff on their side only need to follow and learn! Qin Tao nodded: "Okay."
Liu Yong did not follow and went forward. He got down at the service area in front, waited for a ride to the airport, and then returned to the Third Aerospace Academy. Qin Tao continued to move forward, first arriving at Tianjiao Airlines.
Zhao Ling had been in charge here for a while and was very familiar with it. When she came back here, it was like returning home, and then the sisters at home came to welcome her.
"Zhao, you finally came back to see me. Since you left, I have felt very lonely here. If you don't come back, I might go back and ask grandpa to send someone over." Zamota
Yeva said to Zhao Ling.
Zhao Ling smiled: "That's not possible. Your grandfather wants you to have a good experience in the East. When you return, it will be time to take over the entire Motor Siqi Company."
Zamotaeva's expression was a little complicated: "The operating conditions of the entire Motor Sich company are not very good. Looking at it now, Genghis Khan's investment is very correct. Now, this is the main profit of the entire Motor Sich company.
Source."
Qin Tao was curious: "What's going on? I remember when I went there before, your company's profitability was pretty good. Your Motorsich Company was the power czar!"
"In recent years, our orders have become less and less. Now they are mainly for repairs. Only in the East, our products are still being sold continuously. After our production line was established, we have received two orders one after another.
Orders for more than a hundred engines." Zamotayeva said: "If it weren't for our blood transfusion, the other side might not be able to support it and would be heavily in debt. Mr. Qin, can we continue to deepen our cooperation?"
"How to deepen it?" Qin Tao asked. In fact, there is another reason for the deterioration of Motor Siqi's operating conditions: after Tianjiao Airlines was established, thousands of experienced technicians were transferred from Motor Siqi to work.
The benefits are high and the treatment is good, so all those capable old workers have come here, and their company headquarters has been emptied out. However, even if people go to higher places and water flows to lower places, they can't stop these old workers.
choose.
"Can our product line here be further improved? For example, can our domestic D-18t engine be produced here?" Zamotayeva said.
This chapter is not finished yet, please click on the next page to continue reading the exciting content! Qin Tao frowned: "Zamotayeva, you should also know that our ai-222 engine can be sold because of us
Both training aircraft and UAVs need this kind of power system, and the price is very low. But now, if the D-18t engine production line is introduced, even if this engine is produced, it will have no use. We understand
The An-225 transport aircraft of the Zhouzhou Group has already stored enough engines and no more engines are needed."
The D-18t is the engine for the An-124 and An-225 transport aircraft. The total production quantity is less than 200 units. The key is that it is too big.
Take the Y-20 as an example. Four D-30Ks are enough. A single unit has a thrust of more than ten tons, but the maximum thrust of the D-18t has reached 23 tons. It is an engine with absolute excess thrust. It uses a unique
It has a three-rotor structure, and the low-pressure turbine has reached level 4, causing its weight to exceed 4 tons. Although its thrust is high, its weight is also high.
In addition, it only has a lifespan of 1,500 hours, and it cannot be used as a power source for civil aviation aircraft. Therefore, Qin Tao has no idea about producing this kind of engine. It is simply not suitable for the modern sky.
Of course, it can be improved on its basis by using modern aero-engine technology to continue to increase its lifespan and reduce fuel consumption, so that it can be used as an engine for future C929 passenger aircraft, but these are not what Qin Tao can do now. After all,
Too far away.
"So, can we produce other engines?" Zamotayeva continued: "For example, D-227?"
At this time, she was thinking over and over about Motorsic's product line. D-18t was the most suitable product. Unexpectedly, Mr. Qin disagreed. So, what about D-227? Can Mr. Qin agree?
Upon hearing Zamotaeva's words, Qin Tao's heart beat violently for no apparent reason.
Of course this kind of engine is urgently needed by our side!
The D-227 engine is an excellent three-rotor turboprop engine. Its maximum take-off power is 14,000 horsepower, and its normal operating power is also 11,000 horsepower. (After careful review of the information, I feel that this 10,000 horsepower
Four thousand horsepower is relatively normal only for use during takeoff, otherwise it would be too outrageous.) Its power is almost twice that of the existing domestic turboprop 6.
Relying on this powerful power, it has become the most reliable engine for the carrier-based early warning aircraft being developed by Dongfang. However, Qin Tao only obtained ten units at the beginning. Excluding two spare units, he could only build four carrier-based early warning aircraft at most.
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For the Eastern Navy, four early warning aircraft of this level are obviously not enough. More are definitely needed. Moreover, using carrier-based early warning aircraft as a platform, carrier-based transport aircraft, carrier-based anti-submarine aircraft, etc. can also be modified.
That is to say, there is still greater demand for this kind of engine!
Not to mention land-based transport aircraft such as the Yunba. If these transport aircraft are equipped with two D-227s, they can achieve the power output of the previous four turboprop 6c engines. If four units are installed, the performance of the Yunba will be
There can be earth-shaking changes.
China has been lagging behind in the development of turboprop engines for a long time. The turboprop 6 used in large quantities is only a single-rotor engine with very backward performance and super heavy weight. It was not until 2018 that the AEP-500 was developed in China.
, boldly used a three-rotor structure, and here at Lao Maozi, turboprop engines have long used a three-rotor structure.
Of course, this is very different from the three-rotor structure used in fighter jet engines. The three-rotor structure of a fighter jet has three types of compressors and three types of turbines, which operate in a nested manner, while the compressor of a turboprop engine is still only a two-rotor structure.
The high-pressure compressor and the low-pressure compressor, and the turbines at the back are also high-pressure turbines and low-pressure turbines. These structures are the same as those of a normal dual-rotor engine. Without a third-stage turbine, the entire engine can still run smoothly. Its three-stage free turbine only uses
It is used to drive the propeller, which has nothing to do with the entire engine. You can design it however you want, which greatly improves the efficiency of the engine.
At this time, when he heard Zamotaeva talking about this kind of engine, Qin Tao certainly wanted it. As long as the technology of this kind of engine was introduced, he would have a world-leading turboprop engine. Domestic carrier-based aircraft, land-based transport aircraft, and even modified passenger aircraft will all have advanced engine systems.
However, he could not agree easily at this time. He pretended to be embarrassed and said: "If we open a new engine production line, it will require a huge investment. At present, the group has no plans to expand our production line."
Zhao Ling quietly acted as secretary on the side without saying a word. She came here with the intention of expanding the production line to produce engines for surveying and mapping imitated cruise missiles. However, Qin Tao said at this time that he had no such idea. Of course, I want to get more benefits from Motorsic Company.
Now it is the other party who wants something from us.
Zamotaeva's eyes moved rapidly, she thought for a moment, and then said: "If we put this engine into production, we can have a broad market prospect. This is the most advanced turboprop engine in the world. It can be equipped on many aircraft. You need this kind of engine."
"I know that you want to use our eastern market to expand the share of your products. However, we are indeed very difficult to find funds now. If we want to put this kind of engine into production, can you invest some funds?" ?”
Zamotaeva shook her head: "We don't have any money. How about we use our technology to invest in the shares in the same way as before, each holding half?"
What a beautiful idea! Qin Tao continued to frown: "Zamotaeva, I am actually willing to help you, but the AI-222 engine is what we are interested in. This engine has great prospects, and the d- What about the 227 engine? After it is produced, we still have to work hard to promote it and sell it. To put it simply, we do not think that our high investment will be rewarded, and it may be in vain. You are just a technical investor. If you lose, you lose. What about us? If this engine cannot be sold, we will suffer heavy losses. Therefore, your technology accounts for up to 20%, and you still have to come up with a certain amount of funds. Let’s start it together. production line."
This chapter is not over, please click on the next page to continue reading! "It seems that I can only say sorry." Zamotayeva said: "We simply do not have enough funds to invest, if any, in the production line. It’s started in our country, so we don’t need to come to Mingzhou Group to cooperate.”
Zamotaeva's words are very straightforward: I came to you to cooperate because I had no money. If we have money, we will do it ourselves. Wouldn't it be nice?
"Mr. Qin, can we think of some other ways?" At this moment, Zhao Ling spoke at the right time. She is really qualified as a secretary! Qin Tao was very emotional. This was a tacit understanding, and he did not give any hint. , Zhao Ling can also know what she is thinking.
Zhao Ling accompanies Qin Tao everywhere, and she is also very clear about domestic military research and development projects. She knows that this engine is related to the construction of the navy, and it would be better if it can be produced. Now, Qin Tao just wants the other party to pay a greater price. That's all.
"What can we do?" Qin Tao asked.
"For example, we can find a bank for a loan." Zhao Ling said: "We use Tianjiao Airlines' existing assets as collateral, which can loan hundreds of millions from the bank. With this fund, we can use this engine to
It has been put into production. Once the engine is produced and sold to customers, we will be able to repay the debt to the bank."
My wife is smart. This is killing two birds with one stone. In the future, I can bankrupt Tianjiao Airlines if necessary, so that I can have nothing!
"Loan?" Zamotaeva has some doubts. What if the loan is not repaid? Doesn't it mean that the existing products can no longer be produced, and the entire factory has been sold by the bank?
"Well, a loan is a good way." Qin Tao said: "With the endorsement of our Mingzhou Group, we will definitely be able to loan it out. Even if we encounter an accident, we don't have to worry about the bank actually coming to auction. After all, we are borrowing money now.
It’s uncle, we can’t afford to pay it back, and the bank can’t do anything to us, otherwise if we break the bank, the bank will suffer huge losses in debt.”
Zamotaeva was moved. The uncle owes money. This is a good statement. We borrowed a huge debt from the bank. We don’t have to worry. The bank has to worry every day. There is also the endorsement of Mingzhou Group. What does the bank have to worry about?
of?
"After we borrow the money and start production, we will start marketing it domestically. Our domestic aviation industry is developing rapidly and we will definitely need this kind of engine. Even if we only sell twenty or thirty units a year, we can still have
Enough profit."
Aviation engines are not a big deal. Twenty or thirty units a year are quite a lot.
Zamotaeva finally nodded: "Okay, then we can give it a try. However, the money to repay the debt must be used from the profits from the production of new engines, and absolutely not from existing profits."
The existing profits will be sent back to Motorsic Company. The company is very short of money and relies on Genghis Khan Airlines for blood transfusions.
Qin Tao nodded: "Of course, didn't I just say that? The one who owes the money is the uncle."
This matter has been settled. Zamotaeva still needs to report to Ermao. It will take a month or two for a formal decision to be made. However, the other party has no choice. There is no market in the East. Their d227 is simply useless.
Can't sell it!
The Western aviation industry will not install their engines at all. They can only use them for their own use. During the Red Empire era, they planned to develop a brand new transport aircraft to replace the An-12. However, after the collapse of the Red Empire, this project was under scrutiny.
It was such a blow that the Antonov Design Bureau, which was included in the Ermao territory, decided to continue to develop this kind of transport aircraft. In 1994, the first An-70 officially rolled off the production line and became the
The world's largest propeller transport aircraft. (It is also called a propeller fan engine. The data says it is D-27, but looking at the data, it is almost exactly the same as the D-227.)
Originally, this kind of transport aircraft with a maximum take-off weight of 130 tons still had a relatively bright future. However, who would have thought that less than three months after its first flight, the first prototype for its fourth flight test in Kiev was equipped with a
An An-72 transport aircraft type B was flying next to it. Four people on the An-70 and three people on the An-72, a total of seven people, were killed in the line of duty. This was definitely a huge blow to the Antonov Design Bureau.
Due to various reasons, there is no market for this kind of transport aircraft. Therefore, there is no mass production at all, and the matching engine also loses the market.
It can only be used in the Eastern market! They can only produce it in the East, so that they can impress Eastern customers.
After discussing this matter, Qin Tao did not continue to talk about the small turbofan engine. Waiting to talk about it later can be used as a friendly gesture for further cooperation between the two parties. You have developed a technology, and we have also developed a technology!
Next, Qin Tao took a quick look around here, and after eating, he went to the Shuangyang Factory next door.
The current Shuangyang factory is already in full swing. They have a lot of orders and they must seize the time to produce. Now, the production line works in three shifts, almost as long as the people rest and the machines do not rest. Relying on the advanced pulse
Production line and computer control management, the efficiency of this production line is very high.
Zhao Shunli was also busy. When he learned that Qin Tao was coming, he was inspecting the production line and ran over with stains all over his body. He also had a row of sockets for electric wrenches in his pocket, looking very dedicated.
"Mr. Qin, welcome to your arrival, why don't you tell us in advance so that we can line up to welcome you," Zhao Shunli said.
"Why are you lining up to greet us? Are all the people in the factory so idle?" Qin Tao rolled his eyes at him: "We focus on production, there is no need to engage in such nonsense."
"Well, yes, Mr. Qin is right." Zhao Shunli nodded.
Qin Tao continued to ask: "Do the personnel in our factory only have production capabilities? Do they have design capabilities?"
"Yes, of course there is. When our Shuangyang factory was first established, there was a factory R&D room." Zhao Shunli said: "Now, our factory's R&D room is still working, working with aircraft designers to transform the drawings.
For the production process, we are still studying how to improve the process to increase efficiency. Take the bulging air inlet as an example. We have studied it several times and the processing efficiency has been greatly improved. As well as the titanium alloy structural frame of the fuselage, we
It also uses more advanced one-piece hydraulic technology, and we also specially introduced a large hydraulic press."
When it comes to these things, Zhao Shunli is like a spitfire, and this is what he is best at.
Factory 132’s technical guru, Niu Tu Lao, was from the R&D room of the factory, specializing in craftsmanship and converting aircraft design drawings into production drawings. Later, they developed and grew and were able to improve the J-7 themselves.
As for the R&D room of Shuangyang Factory, although there are no talented people like Tu Lao, they have a large number of aircraft designers coming to support them. Anyway, everyone is one. In the words of Lao Maozi, it is a production and scientific research complex.
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Qin Tao nodded: "Next, our factory's R&D room will continue to grow and develop and become a specialized design agency. Some comrades from brother units and technicians from Lao Ba will come over and we will work together to develop a brand new product.
cruise missile."
Zhao Shunli was stunned at first, and then his face was full of excitement: "Okay, okay, let's vacate the office building immediately and make it available to people from our brother's units!"
Anyway, there are not many people sitting in the office, everyone is busy on the production line, so it is perfect to free up the office building for people engaged in research and development.
Zhao Shunli was not very clear about cruise missiles, but since Mr. Qin had arranged it, it would definitely be possible! Zhao Shunli was very excited when he thought that his side would have more projects.
At this moment, another person hurriedly walked out from inside. Her hair was disheveled and she looked like she hadn't showered in many days. She was also a little dirty, and a special smell could even be smelled from a distance.
"Mr. Qin, you are finally here. When can we get all the engines we need for Peace Dove II?"