Chapter 1266, Interview with the Daming Morning Post (2)
In the living room of the suite where Ali Pasha stayed, Ali Pasha talked endlessly about his feelings and gains in the Ming Dynasty. Lu Yu listened carefully, and Wang Hui next to him took notes in detail.
There were officials from the Ottoman Empire on the side who also recorded the entire interview and reported the matter to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire after returning home.
"Respected Prime Minister, we have talked about many good things about Ming Dynasty. I wonder what else do you think our Ming Dynasty does poorly?"
Lu Yu waited for Ali Pasha to take a sip of tea and then continued to ask.
"I don't want to criticize the Ming Dynasty, because what I see and hear here in the Ming Empire is all good in my opinion. If I insist on saying there is something bad, I think maybe it is the Ming Empire.
Prohibit the spread of foreign religions in the Ming Dynasty."
"Religion is a thing that allows people to find their spiritual belonging and be grateful for God's gifts. However, many people in the Ming Dynasty that I have come into contact with do not believe in gods. The Ming Dynasty court also strictly prohibited the spread of foreign religions. In the Ming Dynasty, religion
The spread of Buddhism is also subject to many restrictions, and the construction of temples requires strict approval."
Ali Pasha thought for a while and said.
"Then, Your Excellency, among our Ming Dynasties, what is the most interesting to you?"
Lu Yu nodded slightly, not wanting to discuss too much about the imperial policy, but asked about other things.
"I'm interested in so many things~"
"I am very interested in things like the Ming Dynasty's trains, high-rise buildings, cement roads, steam engines, new textile machines, looms, etc."
"To be honest, when I first saw these things, I was very shocked. Especially the Ming Dynasty's trains can carry two thousand people at a time, and can travel thousands of miles by day and at night. This makes me feel very
I was shocked, but also very interested.”
"Our Ottoman Empire, like the Ming Empire, has a vast territory and needs to build many railways to strengthen transportation and exchanges in various regions."
"So when I go back, I will propose to our great Sultan to build a railway."
"The next thing is the high-rise buildings of the Ming Dynasty. When I came to the capital of the Ming Dynasty, I saw a high-rise building with more than 20 stories for the first time. I have never seen such a high-rise building in the Ottoman Empire or Europe."
"These high-rise buildings seem to be very solid. Can they withstand any strong wind?"
"But we in the Ottoman Empire have no way to build such a tall building, because strong winds can easily blow down such a tall building, and such a tall building is also very inconvenient if there is no elevator."
"There are also various steam engines, such as steam harvesters, steam textile looms, steam trains, steam looms, etc. These steam-powered machines are very efficient and greatly reduce the work pressure.
, which improves work efficiency.”
"And your Ming Dynasty clocks are incredible machines that can be worn on the hand and accurately tell the time. These machines are so precise and designed so exquisitely that I have to be amazed by the craftsmen of the Ming Dynasty."
"These are things that our Ottoman Empire cannot produce, and they are also things that I am very interested in."
"Of course, there are so many things about your Ming Dynasty that interest me, such as your large factories and assembly line-like working methods, the efficient construction speed of the shipyards, the terrifying output of the steel plants, and the uniform use of banknotes in the Ming Dynasty.
Wait, these all make me feel incredible and very interested."
"There are also a large number of schools in your Ming Dynasty, various professional senior schools, which cultivate professional talents. In addition, in many junior elementary schools, I have also noticed that women in your Ming Dynasty can also go to school. This
It shocked me.”
Ali Pasha said a lot. To be honest, when I came to Ming Dynasty, what I saw and saw were really too much, too many shocking places, and even more interesting.
"Your Excellency Prime Minister, do many people in your country receive education?"
Speaking of education, Lu Yu also asked curiously.
"In our Ottoman Empire, we used to send only boys to school. We have many good schools, but only children from rich families who can afford the tuition can go to school. Children from poor families have no chance to go to school. However, after I returned
I will recommend to the great Sultan to build more schools, especially professional technical schools like the Ming Dynasty."
Ali Pasha replied truthfully.
"Do you support women's education?"
When Lu Yu heard this, he immediately asked again.
Here, Ali Pasha paused for a moment, and then said very cautiously: "In our Ottoman Empire, women are not allowed to show their faces like they were in the Ming Dynasty. They must wear a headscarf to cover their faces when going out, because
We believe that a woman's chastity is the most important, and she cannot let men whose family members are surprised see her face."
"So in our Ottoman Empire, there were no schools specifically for girls to study. Rich people would hire teachers to teach them at home."
"This is the big difference between the customs of our Ottoman Empire and your Ming Empire."
"However, maybe we should learn from you and combine it with the national conditions of our Ottoman Empire to develop a set of education suitable for our Ottoman Empire so that more people, including girls, can receive education."
"Your Excellency Prime Minister, I believe you are also aware of some of the problems and conflicts that exist between our Ming Dynasty and the Ottoman Empire. I wonder what you think of the Ottoman Empire's army massacring towns in our river area?"
Lu Yu nodded slightly, and then asked a very pointed question.
Hearing this, all the Ottomans present couldn't help but become nervous. This question was difficult to answer.
Because whether it was the Ottoman Empire or the Ming Empire, Ali Pasha obviously could not be offended and had to find an answer that would satisfy both parties.
Ali Pasha obviously knew this very well, so this time, he thought for a long time before answering slowly.
"We, the Ottoman Empire and the Ming Empire, originally had good exchanges and friendship. We are Turks and originally a tribe from the eastern grasslands. Historically, we also had a deep friendship with your ancestor, the Tang Empire."
"In the past few years, there have been some misunderstandings and conflicts between us. I think it was caused by the lack of understanding and communication between us. This is also one of the important reasons why I came to the Ming Empire this time. I brought
The friendship of the Ottoman Empire came to the Ming Dynasty.”
"This time, I brought many gifts, which were gifts from our great Sultan to the great Emperor of the Ming Empire. We in the Ottoman Empire sincerely hope to maintain good relations and friendship with the Ming Empire."
"I am deeply sorry for what happened in the Hezhong area, and please also apologize to the Ming Dynasty people who died on my behalf."
"In fact, the main reason for this incident is that there are some greedy people in our Ottoman Empire army. They killed wantonly and wanted to rob property."
"For this reason, our great Sultan of the Ottoman Empire also actively cooperated with the Ming Empire to make amends, rescued the trafficked Ming people, and offered rewards to hunt down those executioners."
"So far, we have basically recovered all the Ming people, and basically all the executioners who participated in the massacre have been brought to justice."
"These executioners received the punishment they deserved, and we, the Ottoman Empire, also paid the price for our impulse. At the same time, it also made us deeply understand that the two countries should deepen their understanding and exchanges, enhance trust, and eliminate misunderstandings and barriers.
Only in this way can we avoid such things and prevent similar tragedies from happening again."
Ali Pasha's answer was obviously very wise. He said that a major event was caused by mutual understanding, and at the same time passed the responsibility to those dead Ottoman soldiers.
After Lu Yu listened, he kept nodding in agreement.
After fighting in the war, the Ottoman Empire should have a clearer understanding of the Ming Dynasty, which is why they are so honest now. If they didn't beat them up, they probably wouldn't respect the Ming Dynasty so much.
"Do you welcome us Ming people to travel, study and invest in your Ottoman Empire?"
After thinking about it, Lu Yu also asked following his answer.
"Haha, of course you are welcome. We very much welcome friends from the Ming Dynasty to visit, travel, study and invest in our Ottoman Empire, because only in this way can we continuously enhance mutual understanding, increase contacts and trust, and reduce mutual misunderstandings.
and friction.”
Ali Pasha laughed happily.
"However, because of what happened that year, we Ming people are all worried that if we go to the Ottoman Empire, we will suffer revenge from the Ottoman Empire. As far as I know, many people in the Ottoman Empire hate us Ming people very much."
Lu Yu thought for a while and said again.
"So, there are many misunderstandings between our Ottoman Empire and the Ming Empire, because we don't understand each other and don't trust each other, so there are gaps, misunderstandings, distrust, etc."
"It is precisely for this reason that we welcome people from the Ming Dynasty to our Ottoman Empire, because only through more exchanges and contacts can we increase trust and understanding, eliminate misunderstandings and hatred, etc."
"Of course, we will also find ways to effectively resolve your concerns, and we will ensure the personal safety of every Ming citizen who enters the Ottoman Empire."
Ali Pasha replied with a smile on his face, the Ming people are too rich. If any Ming people are willing to invest in the Ottoman Empire, it will also be a good thing for the Ottoman Empire. The matter of the Egyptian canal has now been spread in the west.