Liu Qingyu let out a long breath when he heard this. To be honest, Liu Qingyu felt a little guilty when he patted his chest and told Su Guorui and Shao Jianhua that he would bear all the consequences. After all, if Xue Bingnan's speculation appeared,
If there is a mistake, or even if the age is not changed on Ma Zhengxing's file, then the consequences will be very serious, and Liu Qingyu will have to bear heavy responsibility.
However, Liu Qingyu has one of the biggest advantages, that is, he does not trust those he employs and does not trust those he doubts. Since he sent Xue Bingnan to do this, the only thing he can do in this situation is to trust Xue Bingnan. Although there are some risks in doing so.
It is a big risk, but if you want your subordinates to grow up as quickly as possible, this kind of risk is what a leader must bear. If you are promoted to a leader and do not take risks for your subordinates, then your subordinates will be timid when doing things and will be afraid of everything.
It's very difficult to do.
Fortunately, this time, Liu Qingyu won the bet. Xue Bingnan did not betray Liu Qingyu's trust.
After Xue Bingnan and the others came back, Liu Qingyu first organized a dozen meticulous and conscientious staff members from the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection to take the shredded materials and reassemble them, making sure to restore the burned archive materials to their original appearance as soon as possible.
Later, Liu Qingyu ordered Xue Bingnan to interrogate Ma Zhengxing and Pan Xiren.
However, what Liu Qingyu didn't expect was that although Xue Bingnan showed a very good side during the investigation, during the interrogation, he had no temper at all when faced with the two old fritters Ma Zhengxing and Pan Xiren.
No matter what Pan Xiren said, the two of them refused to speak. Even if they did speak, they were teasing Xue Bingnan, which made Xue Bingnan very depressed.
After more than four hours of interrogation, both parties were tired, and it was time to eat. Liu Qingyu called Xue Bingnan, Cheng Jiyu, Tao Yaming, and Bi Jianqiu into his office.
Liu Qingyu looked at Xue Bingnan and the others with a smile and said, "Do you know why you have been unable to get them to speak during interrogation?"
Xue Bingnan said with a wry smile: "First, it's because we are young and lack experience, and second, these people don't take us seriously at all."
Liu Qingyu nodded slightly: "Yes, the two points you mentioned are indeed some of the reasons. In fact, there is another very important factor that you have ignored."
Xue Bingnan was stunned and quickly asked for advice very humbly.
Liu Qingyu said: "As a staff member of the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection, if you want to win in the interrogation contest with criminal suspects, it is not enough to have professionalism. Even if you have rich work experience, are older, and have senior qualifications, in the
When you encounter some special criminal suspects, you may not be able to break through their psychological defenses."
Speaking of this, Liu Qingyu noticed that the four people were listening carefully.
"If you young people want to grow and progress, you must first optimize your knowledge structure. And a good knowledge structure is the basis for successful interrogation. Because with the development and progress of the times, people like Ma Zhengxing and Pan Xiren who are suspected of job-related crimes and corruption
Officials, their criminal methods are also advancing with the times, and they even use high technology to carry out intelligent crimes. These methods often make our Discipline Inspection Commission investigators tired of dealing with them. Therefore, this requires our Discipline Inspection Commission investigators to be multi-faceted.
We need to have a good reserve of knowledge so that we can have a clear target when dealing with these corrupt elements."
"Secretary Liu, what knowledge reserves should we all have?" Xue Bingnan asked.
"You should have at least nine aspects of knowledge, including philosophical knowledge, law and legal knowledge, sociological knowledge, financial knowledge, psychological knowledge, logic knowledge, investigative knowledge, pre-trial knowledge, and evidence knowledge."
When Liu Qingyu finished speaking, Xue Bingnan, Cheng Jiyu and others all smiled bitterly and scratched their heads. At this moment, they all felt that they seemed to have many shortcomings.
Liu Qingyu continued: "If you want to be an excellent Discipline Inspection Commission staff member, you should be both an investigative expert and a social generalist, and you should be involved in all aspects of knowledge. Because we usually come into contact with
When various types of corrupt elements engage in corrupt behaviors, their corrupt behaviors often occur in multiple professional fields. This is not subject to the will of our Discipline Inspection Commission staff. For example, when we investigate cases in the financial system, we should understand the financial system
Systematic work procedures and related businesses, if we investigate cases in the construction field, we should be familiar with all aspects of project construction, including bidding methods, material procurement, project management, etc.
Only when you have this comprehensive knowledge can you have no obstacles in communicating with corrupt elements, and you will not be confused by their random terminology, and can you see through the fishy nature of their behavior at a glance. Then Liu Qing,
Yu also used a case he encountered while working in the Anti-Corruption Bureau as an example to explain to them how all kinds of knowledge can be comprehensively used."
After listening, the four people all nodded vigorously. Today was an eye-opener for them. At the same time, they also truly realized how much effort it takes to become a successful and capable member of the Discipline Inspection Commission.
At this time, Cheng Jiyu suddenly said: "Secretary Liu, can you take us to complete the interrogation of Ma Zhengxing and Pan Xiren? Just so we can learn while practicing?"
Liu Qingyu smiled and said: "This is possible. Your suggestion is very good. The purpose of calling you here today is to take you to do the operation together. Let's go to the interrogation room."
With that said, Liu Qingyu looked at Lu Jianyu and said, "Jianyu, please notify the technical department and ask them to take the polygraph to the interrogation room."
"Poly detector?" When they heard that Liu Qingyu wanted to use a polygraph, Xue Bingnan and the other four people's eyes widened. They rarely used this thing.
Liu Qingyu said with a smile: "Using a lie detector is the investigative knowledge I just told you. At the same time, it is also a psychological deterrent to criminal suspects.
Didn't you already try it just now? No matter what you say, they deny that they have made any mistakes, and even ignore your questions with a very cruel attitude. This is a very normal phenomenon. So, in
At this time, you must comprehensively use the knowledge you have mastered to judge that in this situation, what you have to do is to find ways to overcome the other party's psychological defense line and let them know that their resistance and lying are in vain. We
There are enough ways to tell if they are lying."
While talking, Liu Qingyu led the four people into the interrogation room. At this moment, Lu Jianyu had already arranged for someone to bring the polygraph.
At this moment, Ma Zhengxing was the only one sitting at the interrogation table in the interrogation room.
When he saw so many people and some instruments coming in, there was clearly a hint of uneasiness in his eyes.
Liu Qingyu sat across from Ma Zhengxing with a smile on his face and said with a smile: "Ma Zhengxing, let me introduce myself. I am Liu Qingyu, Secretary of the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection. I think you are very lucky to have me as a member of the Standing Committee of the Provincial Party Committee and the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection."
The secretary personally came out to talk to you. I also heard just now that when Xue Bingnan and the others talked to you, your attitude was very firm. You said that you were not involved in the Yuanshan Tunnel Collapse Case and the Wang Dalong Disappearance Case.
So let me ask you one last question, are you involved? If you tell the truth, there is still a chance for leniency."
Ma Zhengxing suddenly started sweating on his forehead. Although he was the director of the Infrastructure Department in the Provincial Department of Transportation, the people he usually dealt with the most were the deputy directors and directors. Even those leaders, in his opinion, needed to be looked up to.
The kind of official power they carry is something he doesn't dare to touch easily.
Now, sitting in front of him was the dignified member of the Standing Committee of the Jiangnan Provincial Committee and the Secretary of the Provincial Discipline Inspection Commission. He actually wanted to interrogate himself in person, which brought him a lot of psychological pressure.
After Liu Qingyu finished speaking, although Ma Zhengxing was very nervous, his words were very tough: "Secretary Liu, I know about these two cases, but I am definitely not involved in these two cases. Of course, the relevant
I am carrying out my work normally, but it is not necessarily related to the occurrence of the case."
Liu Qingyu still had a smile on his face and said: "Okay, since you are so determined and persistent, we cannot judge that you are lying at will. So now, we can use a lie detector to test it. Next,
Let us first introduce to you the principle, efficacy and accuracy of the polygraph."
As he spoke, Liu Qingyu clapped his hands, and Lu Jianyu immediately stood up and explained to Ma Zhengxing in great detail.
At this moment, Xue Bingnan was shocked when he heard Lu Jianyu's explanation. He knew that Lu Jianyu was Liu Qingyu's secretary, and he usually mainly focused on various work matters, but he did not expect that Lu Jianyu didn't even have detailed knowledge of polygraphs.
Everyone knows that although Lu Jianyu is Liu Qingyu's secretary, he is very familiar with various matters within the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection, at least he should be studying seriously.
As a result, he felt that there seemed to be a strong pressure on himself. It seemed that if he wanted to continue to put pressure on Lu Jianyu like he did during the exam, he would have to work harder. Otherwise,
If you are not careful, you will be compared to Lu Jianyu.
Later, Lu Jianyu personally took out a deck of playing cards, and asked the technicians and Ma Zhengxing to look at the numbers on the playing cards, and then used a polygraph test. The test results made Ma Zhengxing feel a little weak in his legs. Because after this preliminary test, he
Suddenly I discovered that as long as the answer I said was inconsistent with the number I actually saw, there would be an obvious reaction on the lie detector.
After the test was completed, Liu Qingyu said with a smile: "Okay, Ma Zhengxing, now you should have a clear understanding of the polygraph-related matters. Next, we can officially test it. Oh, by the way,
I forgot to tell you, in another room, Liu Qingche is leading another group of staff to test Pan Xiren. If the answers between the two of you are inconsistent, it is easy to determine that one person is lying.
I hope you take care of yourself."
After speaking, Liu Qingyu waved his hand, and the lie detector was immediately equipped on Ma Zhengxing.
