Grindelwald twitched his brows and subconsciously repeated.
On the other side, Dumbledore also looked at Elena with interest, a hint of inquiry in his eyes.
"Yes, it's nothing more than a variant of the paradox between consequential justice and procedural justice. This is not a rare thing in the non-magical world. I can only say that you have too little understanding of Muggle law and philosophy."
Elena put the soft-shell crab legs in her hands next to the campfire one by one, shrugged, and answered casually.
There is no doubt that both Dumbledore and Grindelwald hope to influence and change the world through their words and deeds, but they have completely different definitions of logical cause and effect and focus.
If Dumbledore is a staunch guardian of reform, advocating moderate, orderly, and orderly social progress; then Grindelwald is the absolute forerunner of revolution. Anyone who can achieve a just outcome is a valuable sacrifice, and vice versa.
It's all a waste of human social resources.
Just like the debate in the non-magical world for countless years, in the eyes of most people, these two issues are a pair of either-or, completely irreconcilable twin paradoxes...
"You're saying this is a paradox that has no answer, right?"
Dumbledore smiled slightly, looked at Elena gently, and nodded thoughtfully.
"That's true. Sometimes people want to follow the protection of order, and when order becomes the cause of injustice itself, people will seek true fairness, so..."
"So, why can't we find a balance that satisfies both?"
Elena sighed, turned her head to look at Dumbledore, and asked calmly.
"If something can be carried out in a state of order and achieve the desired result, doesn't it satisfy the demands of these two viewpoints at the same time? Is there anything that we can't sit down and talk about? What should we do?
Not a beast."
"You're still too naive, kid."
Grindelwald grinned, touched Elena's hair, shook his head and said.
"In reality, it will never be as perfect as you imagined. Most of the time, you need to face a choice, either to compromise in the process or to compromise on the result - something that everyone is happy with, an imagination that only exists in theory.
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"Only Muggles do multiple-choice questions..."
Elena raised the corners of her mouth slightly, took out her wand and poked it towards the bonfire in front of her, and a fiery snake leaped high into the air.
"We are wizards. Besides - turning imagination into reality, isn't that what magic is about?"
"Huh?" Grindelwald frowned, a little confused.
"Everything in this world, magic, wealth, rights, food... all have a price, and this means that as long as reasonable negotiation and cooperation are carried out, a balance point that meets the value needs of both parties can be found."
Elena glanced at Grindelwald, then at Dumbledore who had the same puzzled expression, and smiled slightly.
"To give a very simple example, potatoes, food, magic, and students."
"In my opinion, most conflicts ultimately come from the lack of resources - these resources may be wealth, food, spouse... or even intangible existences such as honor, status, and life span."
"Whether it is the magical world or the non-magical world; whether it is human society or the natural biosphere; all beings living in this world are more or less bound by [equivalent exchange]."
"But! The existence of magic can completely overcome the shackles of equivalent exchange in reality and create a high premium."
"In other words..."
Elena said with a sweet smile, while handing two baked crispy soft-shell crab legs to the hands of the two elderly people.
"With the help of magic, we can offer anyone a generous bargain that's hard to refuse."
In game theory, there is an important concept called Pareto optimality, which is an ideal form of economic distribution that almost all economics master's students will be exposed to. Elena, who got her diploma after some bumps and bruises in her previous life, naturally
No exception.
The so-called Pareto Optimality refers to an ideal state of resource allocation.
That is to say, it is assumed that the inherent group of people and distributable resources, in the change from one distribution state to another, make at least one person better without making anyone's situation worse. In absolute ideals,
In the model, it will achieve an extremely fair and efficient social cooperation distribution system.
However, in actual situations, it is difficult for people to make the other party better out of thin air without harming the interests of either party - with a large enough sample collection, there will always be related parties who bear the responsibility of the exploited.
character of.
unless……
"Under the premise of sufficient premium, a win-win result will be formed at the beginning of all events, and then based on this result, we will go backwards and replace the possible damage to interests or sacrifice links with magic."
Elena picked up a clean crab leg and drew lines and circles on the loose soil.
As a top economics student, it is not too difficult to explain this most basic theoretical model to two old wizards. Even without too much basic theoretical preparation, it can be roughly explained by combining graphics and cases.
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"This point can be taken as an example from Gryffindor House... If in the normal non-magical world trading market, Gryffindor who only grows potatoes, the [base currency], is equivalent to being exploited at the bottom.
Labor force. But because magic can produce a surge in potato production in a short period of time, it actually makes them the dominant party."
"But, as far as I know, since the new rules were promulgated, Gryffindor House has not had any advantages..."
Dumbledore pushed up his glasses with his left hand and interrupted with some confusion.
"That's because they lack the most important way of thinking."
Elena spread her hands, turned to look at Dumbledore, and explained without thinking.
"Gryffindor, which has the largest potato reserves and productivity, can gain the right to speak at any time by reducing and expanding the circulation of potatoes in the market - this is also the most powerful weapon I left them. In the same way, in addition
The three academies also have their own advantages, and they are all controlled by the introduction of magic as a variable."
"In fact, Professor Dumbledore, you should know best. Aren't the transaction premiums caused by magic now quietly lying in the potato warehouse under the castle, waiting for us to use them in our next plan?
Of course, the potato model is just the simplest example, and the reality will be hundreds of times more complicated than this."
"But……"
Dumbledore frowned and rubbed his temples with some difficulty.
Although Elena said some very simple sentences, for some reason, when he understood them together, he always felt his forehead swelled up and hurt. This was a strange way of thinking that he had never seen before.
"Don't worry……"
Elena's eyes gradually brightened, she shook her head proudly, and the crab legs in her hands began to move on the ground.
"Next, let me briefly break it down for you. This can actually be demonstrated using a very simple and intuitive quantitative economics model. First, we set the demand groups into several sets..."
"Wait! Stop!"
Before Elena could finish speaking, Grindelwald suddenly interrupted hurriedly.
"Eh?" Elena looked at the old man in front of her and tilted her head cutely, "Well, Grandpa, is there anything you don't understand about what I said before? I can explain it again."
"This is not a matter of not understanding something, this is, well..."
Grindelwald glanced at the large row of formulas and lines on the ground that looked like magic patterns. He took a deep breath and tried to get rid of the vague feeling of dizziness lingering in his mind.
"I believe there is some truth in your statement. Indeed, if you use magic flexibly, you can indeed avoid many disputes and sacrifices we have encountered before, but there is one thing you did not consider!"
"Which point?"
"All of this needs to be based on effective communication."
Grindelwald drew an imaginary circle with his arm in the air and looked at Elena with a scrutinizing look.
"Perhaps according to you, after negotiation and mutual understanding, the two parties with conflicting opinions can always reach a balance point somewhere, but you first have to let them sit together and discuss calmly..."
"That's right, it's just like how difficult it is for Death Eaters and Ministry of Magic officials to sit together and discuss amicably how to resolve conflicts. Many times, if they can really communicate well, conflicts won't arise."
Dumbledore also nodded in agreement, with a sad look on his face.
Neither Dumbledore nor Grindelwald had ever thought of such an approach.
Even if there is no mysterious premium transaction or Pa's Law, people will still think of solving problems through communication - due to the method, regardless of success or failure, many times they cannot even communicate.
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Elena glanced at Grindelwald and Dumbledore, curled her lips, and answered quite easily.
"You are talking about this problem, but it is no longer a problem. Don't forget, the environment I faced now is different from the environment you two faced at that time. Different eras have different solutions."
"Um?"
"I don't see how people are different."
The two old wizards looked at each other, the doubts in their eyes becoming more and more obvious.
"It's very simple. Isn't it obvious?"
The little hair on Elena's head shook proudly and she said confidently.