2759. Chapter 2759 Tongue battle group Confucianism (2)
Yao Wenfeng turned pale at Liu Fei's retort, but for a moment he couldn't find any effective way to fight back.
At this moment, Chen Yuanyuan, a professor from Haiming University who was sitting next to Yao Wenfeng, stood up calmly and looked at Liu Fei with disdain in his eyes. He was the most ranked among the experts hired by Du Hongbo in this debate. As a top master, as an expert professor, he most dislikes the arrogance of someone younger than himself like Liu Fei, especially in his opinion, the reason why Liu Fei is able to sit in his current position is because of his background, and It is not true talent. Even if there are many reports on Liu Fei's talent in the media, in Chen Changyuan's view, most of them are just hype, because he believes that most of the political achievements of many officials now rely on media hype, or they are He relied on fabrication and fraud or contributed to the construction of political achievement projects, so he looked down on Liu Fei from the bottom of his heart.
Therefore, seeing that Yao Wenfeng was unable to deal with it for a moment, he immediately jumped out and said disdainfully: "Secretary Liu, whether you are talking about Russia, the United States, or other regions, their situation is different from ours in China. Yes, we in China have our special national conditions and history. Based on the analysis of the information I currently have, as far as the trial implementation of the property declaration system for officials in Haiming City is concerned, our Huahaiming City has at least four key issues that need to be solved. First, The first is the issue of protecting the right to privacy. I believe that officials are also citizens and have the right to inviolability of personal privacy. Personal income and family property status all fall within the scope of personal privacy. Forced disclosure of official property is an infringement of officials’ personal privacy rights. , It is not advisable. Secondly, even if officials’ property declaration is implemented, the supervisory role played by this system may not be effective. Why do you say this? The implementation of the property declaration system, in which individual officials provide property information, relies on It is also the personal sense of moral self-discipline of officials; the pure will be clean from themselves, and the dirty will be dirty from themselves. Corrupt officials will still conceal their true property status, people will still be unable to obtain real information, and supervision will become a castle in the air, while those who honestly declare their property Officials are likely to be targets of attack and criticism by their opponents. Based on this comparison, most officials will definitely choose to make false reports. Third, the cost of supervision is too high. Now the number of civil servants in Haiming City is about 800,000, and Among them, there are at least 200,000 officials. For such a large number of officials, the supporting system is not perfect. How to establish and operate the official property declaration system. These are all very difficult. The cost of legislation and law enforcement are too high. Fourth, our maritime The legislative conditions in Ming City are immature. These four reasons determine that the conditions for our Haiming City to trial the official property declaration system are not mature at all. It will take at least ten years of preparation time to truly start the trial. Secretary Liu, what you think."
After hearing Chen Changyuan's four reasons in succession to refute Liu Fei, Wang Kangdong, the Minister of Propaganda Department who had been watching with cold eyes, thought to himself: "It seems that Du Hongbo has really found some capable people this time. If Liu Fei has these four reasons... If it cannot be refuted, I am afraid that any one of them can become a useful weapon against Haiming City's trial implementation of the official property declaration system, leaving Liu Fei with no place to use his strength.
After listening to Chen Yuanyuan's four reasons, Liu Fei frowned tightly. He had to admit that the four reasons given by Chen Yuanyuan seemed to be high-sounding and very sunny, regardless of whether they were arguments or arguments. It was very fully provided, and it seemed difficult to refute it. However, Liu Fei had never seen anything like this in his official career for more than 20 years. He just thought for a moment, then squinted his eyes and looked at Chen Changyuan and said in a deep voice: " This expert should be Professor Chen Changyuan from Haiming University. As far as I know, you are a scholar who studies domestic and international political relations. I didn’t expect that you have such a thorough research on the official property declaration system. Your four Almost every reason is to strongly oppose the trial implementation of this system, and it seems that you are very confident from your expression, so I will now refute your four reasons one by one. First of all, is it civil rights that prevent the introduction of the official property declaration system? ,No, you keep talking about protecting the privacy rights of officials, but you want a system. In a country ruled by law, power and rights always go hand in hand; when officials have power, they must do so at the expense of giving up some citizens' rights. It is in line with the law of fairness. Once anyone takes hold of public power and has the opportunity to use the power for his own benefit, he must put his privacy under public supervision. Otherwise, without supervision, all kinds of corruption will breed. , In recent times, there have been many corruption cases in our Haiming City. These corruption cases include the Public Security Bureau, the Land and Resources Bureau, the Education Bureau, the Traffic Police Brigade and many other functional departments. These are all departments with relatively great power. Although we There are also units such as the Commission for Discipline Inspection and the Office of Supervision as supervisory departments, but the problem is that the manpower of these departments is limited after all, and it is impossible to monitor the situation of every official and civil servant. Therefore, we must widen the channels for supervision and try to implement official property supervision The declaration system is a very good way to expand supervision channels.
Second, Professor Chen Yuanyuan, you keep saying that the supervision of the official property declaration system is ineffective. On the surface, your reasons seem to be very good, but in fact, aren’t the United States, Russia and other countries operating very well? And in our country, Hong Kong Isn’t this system implemented in Taiwan very effective? Can you say that the supervision of this official property declaration system is ineffective? Is it true that, as you said, what prevents the introduction of the official property declaration system is its own design flaws? ,No, the purpose of implementing the official property declaration system is not to obtain real data about officials’ private property, but to make it easier for the public and anti-corruption agencies to discover those “problem officials” whose disclosed income is obviously inconsistent with their luxurious living status. Corrupt officials conceal It is easier to expose one's property status. You keep saying that supervision is ineffective. Officials' self-declaration will lead to false reports and concealed reports. In fact, it is not the weakness of the system that officials declare themselves, but it is the genius of the system design. Because if you conceal or make false reports, this will obviously show that you are guilty and have problems. When fighting corruption, you will be caught accurately.
Third, Professor Chen Yuanhua, you keep saying that the cost of trialling the official property declaration system is too high. Is this really the case? I can tell you clearly, no. The number of officials you said is too large is just a reason to exaggerate the property. The implementation cost of the declaration system is just the cost. Your approach is a typical "fear of numbers". I can give you two examples to illustrate the absurdity of your statement. Our country's family planning system and the college entrance examination system are implemented Whether the objects are complex or not, and whether the number of people is large or not, none of these systems in our country are running idle due to the large number of people. On the contrary, these systems are implemented very well and have made great contributions to the development of our country. You We keep saying that the official property declaration system is costly, but you can implement it. If it is not implemented, our losses will be even greater. According to some unconfirmed data, corrupt officials who have fled abroad alone take away as much as 50 billion US dollars in national assets every year. ,Although this data is not necessarily accurate, it reflects from one aspect the heavy losses caused by corrupt officials fleeing to our country. If corruption can be effectively curbed, the total benefits of our country will be immeasurable; therefore, even if anti-corruption The cost is slightly larger, but it is insignificant compared to the benefits.
Fourth, is it a matter of legislative conditions that prevents the introduction of the official property declaration system? This is totally wrong. Our country has long promulgated relevant regulations, and there are two key documents among them that can be used as the basis for Haiming City to trial the official property declaration system. , that is, the "Regulations on the Income Declaration of Leading Cadres at the County (Division) Level and Above of Party and Government Organs" issued in 1995 and the "Regulations on the Reporting of Family Property of Current Leading Cadres at the Provincial and Ministerial Level" issued in 2001, our pilot officials in Haiming City The property declaration system fully complies with relevant national regulations and there are no legislative obstacles. I don’t know what exactly the legislative conditions you are referring to, Professor Chen Yuanhua. Officials’ property declaration and disclosure of their personal property is an international practice and a general trend. It is more beneficial to implement it early than to implement it late. Implement it early and win the trust of the people. The sooner you implement it, the more proactive you will be. Professor Chen Changyuan, what do you think of my argument?"
Hearing Liu Fei actually refuting his views one by one, Chen Changyuan really didn't care at first. In his opinion, Liu Fei, a cadre who focuses on personnel work and economic development, had such a complicated attitude in official property declaration. On a debate topic with a certain academic flavor, it is impossible to compare with a scholar like himself who has been studying for decades. However, after Liu Fei finished rebutting one by one, Chen Changyuan's face became paler and paler. He suddenly He found that Liu Fei not only refuted his arguments thoroughly, but also found it difficult for him to find a way to counter Liu Fei again. This made him feel quite aggrieved. Originally, he had prepared many back-ups to deal with Liu Fei's various views. , but he found that each of Liu Fei's arguments pointed directly at the core shortcomings of his own arguments, making him powerful but unable to use it. In the end, Liu Fei was so angry that he clenched his fists, blew his beard and glared, but he could only secretly complain. Hold back secretly,
After Liu Fei finished speaking, the entire seminar fell into silence.
Xiao Jianhui, Du Hongbo and others all frowned. None of them expected that things would develop to this point, and that Liu Fei would be able to compete with two experts and scholars on his own.
At this moment, Xiao Jianhui, Du Hongbo, and Luo Tianqiang all focused their attention on the top and most authoritative expert they invited, Fan Xiaohui. Fan Xiaohui is a top expert who enjoys special allowances and has a relatively high reputation in China.
