Yang Zhengxiong was standing next to Li Tianyi, and his expression was very solemn.
After watching for an hour, Yang Zhengxiong said in a deep voice: "Secretary Li, today's interrogation is not easy. Whether it is Lin Pengtao or Jia Gaoming, they all showed resistance to the interrogation. Secretary Li, look at this
Which of the three groups will be the first to complete the task? I think Yang Furong and her group are the most likely."
Li Tianyi shook his head slightly and said: "Judging from the current situation, in the first stage of the interrogation, only Yang Furong and his team initially gained Luo Changsheng's trust and explained some questions.
But in fact, this Luo Changsheng is very cunning. His current approach is to avoid the important and take the easy. I estimate that the next stage of training for Yang Furong and the others will be extremely difficult.
Therefore, Yang Furong and her group can only be regarded as temporarily leading."
Yang Zhengxiong had a look of astonishment on his face when he heard what Li Tianyi said. He really didn't see what Li Tianyi said.
Li Tianyi continued: "For Wang Liqian and Zhang Tao, although they have a bad start, once they make a breakthrough, they are likely to advance a thousand miles and directly defeat their opponents."
Line of defense.
Lao Yang, you have also worked for the Discipline Inspection Commission for a long time, how much do you know about how interrogators gain the trust of the people being interrogated."
Yang Zhengxiong smiled bitterly and said: "Secretary Li, as far as I know, in the daily practice of our Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection and Supervision, we have summarized six methods to gain the trust of the person being interrogated. They are the reprimand method, the greeting method,
The method of borrowing force, the method of workaround, the method of substitution and the method of suggestion.
However, for these six methods, I have only used two or three of them when I was working at the grassroots level. In recent years, I have lost a lot of these skills due to doing administrative work.
Secretary Li, it seems to me that both groups have adopted some methods, but they are not satisfactory. Why do you think this is?"
Li Tianyi said with a smile: "Wang Liqian's group used the greeting method and substitution method today, with little effect, while Zhang Tao's group used the suggestion method and reprimand method, but the effect was also insignificant."
Yang Zhengxiong said: "Secretary Li, I have long heard that you are knowledgeable and talented, especially the last time you handled the case of the Food and Drug Administration, with remarkable results. Can you explain to me how to use these methods?
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Li Tianyi said with a smile: "The reprimand method, as the name suggests, means reprimand, and its essence can be called closeness. Its purpose is to close the emotional distance between the interrogator and the person being interrogated, and to take actions according to the interrogator's will."
The characteristic is that through superficial criticism and rebuke, the interrogated person actually feels that the interrogator is helping him, and then enlightens the other party through this hint, making the other party think that the interrogator is helping him. This method can put aside the interrogator.
A special oppositional position with the person being interrogated, and then by assuming a close relationship to meet the needs of the other party's inner satisfaction.
As for the greeting method, it is to express your concern to others by greeting them. You can get close to the other party through greetings, eliminate the other party's suspicion, vigilance and nervousness, and establish the basis of the conversation as quickly as possible. When used, it is generally not directly involved in practice.
Instead, we start from the daily routine and create an atmosphere conducive to the interrogation team by understanding the family situation of the person being interrogated. This is a method of interrogation activities that uses small talk as a smoke screen. If the other party does not know that it is a conspiracy,
, then you fell into a trap.
This method can achieve miraculous results in some cases, but it may not be effective against those who are determined.
The method of borrowing force is to first use the power of others to intimidate the other party and put it into trouble, and then help the other party unexpectedly to make it grateful to you. The purpose is to achieve the goal of getting close to the other party and finally controlling and manipulating the other party. The key to the success of this method
The purpose is to use the power and coercion of others to make the other party feel grateful. The interrogator must use good intentions in advance to create a feeling of being on the verge of crisis for the other party. They hit and pull at the same time, hitting first and then pulling. There must be a certain amount of force in the beating.
Concealment and confusion can be effective when pulling.
The workaround is to avoid words that the person being interrogated does not want to hear and events that are not involved in the interrogation operation, so as to avoid causing psychological pressure and psychological barriers. This will result in the person being interrogated crossing the bridge without knowing that there is something under the bridge.
Water results.
For example, a leading cadre used his authority to promote a group of cadres, and these cadres gave generous gifts to express their gratitude. Then during the interrogation, the leading cadre confessed to receiving excessive gifts, but to accepting...bribery
This legal term is a confrontational and negative attitude. In this case, our rapid response personnel only need him to admit that he received the money, because as long as he admits to receiving other people's money, it is equivalent to successfully admitting his compensation.
... Bribery. The purpose of this workaround is to satisfy the psychological needs of the person being interrogated, thereby shortening the psychological distance between the person being interrogated and the person being interrogated, and establishing a basis for mutual communication.
Therefore, the staff of our Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection must pay attention to observing and understanding the personality characteristics of the person being interrogated, and then decide what methods and methods to adopt."
Hearing this, Yang Zhengxiong recalled some of the interrogation methods he had used when working at the grassroots level, and he was full of admiration for Li Tianyi.
In actual work, I may adopt some methods due to work needs, but these methods are often the result of hard thinking without actual theoretical guidance.
But now, Li Tianyi just sits here quietly and can easily explain the details of how to approach the interrogated persons in the work of the Discipline Inspection Commission. This fully proves that the leader Li Tianyi is really a leader who understands business.
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Yang Zhengxiong then asked: "Secretary Li, what about substitution and suggestion?"
Li Tianyi said: "The substitution method is a method used to change one's position, from the stern interrogation action officer on the interrogation stage to the helper of the person being interrogated. This method can be based on the age and age of the person being interrogated.
The difference in age between you and others determines the role and tone of your replacement. For example, if the person being interrogated is younger than you, you can call him brother. The replacement method is not only to solve the problem of title, but also to call him "brother".
The person being interrogated has an emotional illusion, allowing the interrogator to get closer to the person being interrogated as quickly as possible, and to get close to the person being interrogated's emotions and their psychology.
The suggestion method uses psychological suggestion to allow the person being interrogated to regard the interrogator as one of their own, thereby gaining the trust of the person being interrogated.
In our actual case handling process, most of the people being questioned always rely on connections to find someone to intercede after the crime, trying to absolve themselves of their guilt. Our interrogators should make full use of this abnormal phenomenon and let them
The person being interrogated misunderstood that the interrogator had been bribed and became one of his own, and gave hints to the person being interrogated to make him know what he was doing, thereby achieving the purpose of persuading the other party.
When using this method, if the person being interrogated believes that the interrogator is aware of the situation, he must not only have a basic understanding of the whole case, but also have a clear understanding of the family situation of the person being questioned. Otherwise, this method of suggestion will not be possible, let alone
You will gain the trust of those you trust.”
After Li Tianyi finished speaking, Yang Zhengxiong looked at Li Tianyi with eyes full of respect.
People always admire those who are more capable than themselves, and at this moment, Yang Zhengxiong had to admit that Li Tianyi was able to become the secretary of the Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection at such a young age. It was not just nepotism that some people in Jiangnan Province said was absolutely reliable.
It's about your true strength.
Yang Zhengxiong pondered for a moment and then said: "Secretary Li, look at the situation of the three groups in front of you, how can they achieve the final breakthrough?"
Li Tianyi said with a smile: "In the actual work of our Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection and Supervision, the behavior of people like Lin Pengtao and Jia Gaoming who refuse to confess actually revolves around three interests: material interests, political interests and spiritual interests.
Yes, for the sake of these three interests, they refused to confess. This is actually the human nature of seeking advantages and avoiding disadvantages.
The person being interrogated chooses to refuse to confess, which is based on conditional confrontation. This condition is that they believe that the facts of their crime have not yet been exposed. If the facts of their crime have been found out by the investigative agency, they will not confess even if they are not truthful.
Confession will not affect the punishment imposed on them by the supervisory authority. When they cannot escape the consequences of losses, they lose the conditions for confrontation and they will naturally give up the confrontation.
Therefore, our Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection inspection team now has a very arduous task.
And this is why I secretly asked people from the Discipline Inspection Office to come over and assist these three groups in starting their work simultaneously.
Although the materials we have are enough to prove that all three of them have problems, the materials we have are not enough to force them to admit their crimes.
Therefore, we must be prepared with both hands at present. On the one hand, we must try our best to break through the psychological defense lines of these people through their current conversation behaviors and let them explain their problems. On the other hand, we must obtain sufficient evidence through external investigations, and then
Force him to confess his problems. Only by combining internal and external forces and attacking from both inside and outside can we achieve the ultimate goal."
After hearing this, Yang Zhengxiong nodded deeply.
When he received Li Tianyi's instruction to find the deputy directors of the three inspection offices in person and let them personally lead the team to Taozhou City quietly, Yang Zhengxiong didn't quite understand the purpose of Li Tianyi's approach.
, now he finally understands.
From this point of view, Secretary Li has long been mentally prepared for how to win the tough battle of discipline inspection and supervision in Taozhou City.
Li Tianyi smiled again and said: "Old Yang, if you want to give up the administrative route one day and take the business route, I can satisfy you, but now you must carefully observe the subtle expressions on the faces of those being interrogated, because through
Their expressions can reveal their true inner thoughts at this moment.”
Yang Zhengxiong was stunned. The level Li Tianyi mentioned was relatively high. In Yang Zhengxiong's view, even those discipline inspection and supervision backbones who often work on the front line of actual combat may not be able to reach such a level.
Later, Li Tianyi began to interpret for Yang Zhengxiong the inner thoughts of Lin Pengtao and Jia Gaoming at this moment.
Li Tianyi pointed at Jia Gaoming and said: "Old Yang, have you seen it? Jia Gouming is looking sideways at this moment, which shows that she is full of contempt and contempt for Zhang Tao. You are seeing his eyes rolling around, which shows that he has a conspiracy.
When you look at Lin Pengtao, he touches his nose from time to time, which means that his emotions are inconsistent with the truth in his heart, and he is lying, and there is sweat on his nose, which means that he is anxious and nervous."
After a while, Li Tianyi looked at the screen again and said: "Look now, Lin Pengtao is licking his lips, which means that he is uncomfortable when he lies, and he is trying to comfort himself to calm down..."
Li Tianyi sat in the monitoring room and gave Yang Zhengxiong on-site teaching. Yang Zhengxiong listened with great interest and had deep feelings in his heart.
Three hours later, Yang Zhengxiong said with a solemn face: "Secretary Li, so far, none of these three people has finally spoken. Is it time for you to take action yourself?"