After Li Tianyi heard Zhu Xiaochuan's answer, his eyes immediately narrowed and he said coldly: "Is this the only explanation?"
Zhu Xiaochuan shook his head: "Of course it's not just these. Secretary Li, I also agree that the current situation of Yibaoyi Steel Group must be reformed. However, how to reform must be carefully discussed. If the reform is carried out according to the tainted suggestions you put forward,
It is absolutely impossible to completely kick our State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission out of the main body of management.
I won’t say much else, I’ll just give two examples to show why it doesn’t work.
First, the main factors of production of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group have always relied on the government to provide guarantees. I believe that Secretary Li should be aware of this. It is precisely because of this dependence that Baoyi Iron and Steel Group, like other state-owned enterprises, has become a major player in today's China.
It is a special type of politically connected enterprise in the economy. With this political tie, state-owned enterprises enjoy super-economic competitive advantages that are difficult for non-state-owned enterprises to achieve. If there is no such advantage, then where is the competitiveness of the steel group? And we think
, This advantage is not obtained out of thin air by the Steel Group. They are also achieved through market competition. The Steel Group has become the main body of market competition. Therefore, there is no need to promote the more thorough reforms mentioned in your five points, Secretary Li.
reform.
Second, our county State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission manages large state-owned enterprises such as Baoyi Iron and Steel Group. We have become the major shareholder. In the past few years, our State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission has used all resources to make Baoyi Iron and Steel Group bigger and stronger. This is a state-owned asset.
The fundamental reason why the leaders of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission can achieve political achievements is that without the support of such large state-owned enterprises, how can the leaders of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission continue to achieve political achievements? Then, will the existence of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission still be necessary? So, by then
At that time, Secretary Li, do you also want to reform the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission?"
After Li Tianyi listened to Zhu Xiaochuan's words, he was silent for a while, suddenly raised his head, and said in a cold tone: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, since you have said it for this purpose, then I will not beat around the bush anymore, I will
Let me tell you directly, in my opinion, the real reason why you and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC) you are in charge of are unwilling to accept thorough reform?
I think the reason why the Baoyi County State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission is unwilling to accept Baoyi Iron and Steel Group's thorough reform is purely because, as Comrade Zhu Guohua said, once thorough reform is carried out, it will harm the interests of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission officials.
Why do you say that?
First, as a manager, the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission’s annual salary of its leaders is far less than that of corporate executives. If it is completely reformed, the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission will lose the power to manage and guide the work of Baoyi Steel Group. It will no longer have the power to manage.
, it also loses the space for rent-seeking power, which is the first reason.
The second reason is that in our Baoyi County State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, officials often parachute to a company to become executives, and after making a fortune for a few years, they continue to work in the government. People who work in this system, on the one hand, gain economic benefits.
High returns, while enjoying the treatment of civil servants. Especially at this stage, the final decision-making power on the reform of state-owned enterprises is not in the hands of the enterprises, but in the hands of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission and the government leaders in charge of state-owned assets work. The reform of state-owned enterprises must obtain your consent and approval.
It must be provided, otherwise you will have no motivation to promote the reform of state-owned enterprises."
Having said this, Li Tianyi looked at Zhu Xiaochuan with an even colder gaze: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, do I make sense?"
Zhu Xiaochuan did not answer him and just remained silent. However, everyone present was an old fox who had been in officialdom for many years. Naturally, he could tell that Li Tianyi's analysis was to the point. He directly analyzed Zhu Xiaochuan's true motives for preventing the Iron and Steel Group from carrying out thorough reforms.
Get it crystal clear.
What no one expected was that Li Tianyi would dare to say so.
Seeing Zhu Xiaochuan's silence, Li Tianyi looked at Xia Chenglin, director of the Organization Department of the county party committee: "Comrade Xia Chenglin, let's talk about the reasons why you don't agree with thorough reform now."
Having said this, Li Tianyi took a deep breath and said in a low tone: "In the past, our Baoyi County managed the steel group through administrative appointments. The organizational department appointed and managed the leaders of state-owned enterprises.
, instead of using market methods, they are recommended by the organization and appointed by the party committee just like administrative officials. From the perspective of your organizational department, the difference between state-owned enterprise leaders and administrative officials is just a different division of labor.
But you should be clear that this method of personnel appointment will inevitably form an inherent conflict with the modern corporate governance structure that needs to be established in the reform of state-owned enterprises. What your organizational department is unwilling to lose is control over the personnel of Baoyi Iron and Steel Group. Because for you
Generally speaking, controlling people is equivalent to controlling an enterprise.
As for those responsible persons assigned to state-owned enterprises selected by your organizational department and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, they will take advantage of their information advantages, and some will turn the enterprises into enterprises under their own control. The final result is that it is difficult for the party and the government to
Supervise the corrupt behavior of these people.
However, according to my observation of Baoyi Steel Group, the motivation of state-owned enterprise operators to pursue performance and profitability mainly comes from the short-term annual performance incentive and tenure performance incentive mechanisms. However, the legal accountability system and the legal accountability system for corporate executives
An effective professional manager selection mechanism has not been truly established, and the management of state-owned enterprises still lacks the motivation to pursue long-term sustainable development of the company, and lacks the dedication and impulse to build the company into a century-old store."
Li Tianyi said this, his eyes swept over the faces of Zhu Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin, and finally said decisively: "Comrade Zhu Xiaochuan, Comrade Xia Chenglin, if you say that during the rapid development of Baoyi Steel Group ten years ago, your organization department
If the people appointed by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission indeed played a key role, then in the past ten years, the people appointed by you have been counterproductive. Among other things, the two chairman of the Steel Group and many managers
What is the essence of the successive dismissals of senior management? To put it bluntly, the relevant departments lack effective supervision and checks and balances on SASAC enterprises. Since managers are officials, they are best at political struggles and the balance of power, rather than the corporate governance.
Operation and management ultimately led Baoyi Steel Group to embark on a path on the verge of bankruptcy.
No matter how much you emphasize your past contributions and achievements, the reality is cruel. If Baoyi Steel Group does not carry out thorough reforms, there will be only one result waiting for all employees, and that is bankruptcy, bankruptcy, and unemployment.
I don't want to see this result, and I believe employees in all companies don't want to see it either."
Speaking of this, Li Tianyi's tone suddenly changed: "Whether it is reality or long-term considerations, Baoyi Iron and Steel Group must be completely reformed. Whoever obstructs will step down. Leaders who do not obstruct will come to power. This is what I think about it."
Baoyi Steel Group’s reform ideas.”
After saying that, Li Tianyi turned to look at Zhu Guohua and said with a smile: "Comrade Zhu Guohua, everyone, I believe that the answer to the second obstacle that Comrade Zhu Guohua just mentioned should be relatively clear, right?"
After Zhu Guohua finished listening, his face turned ugly.
At this moment, not only his face was ugly, but Zhu Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin's faces were also very ugly. None of them expected that Li Tianyi would dare to be so strong and domineering in the reform of the Steel Group just after he took office.
, he actually wants to adopt the method of changing generals to promote the reform process. Isn't this a bit too radical for him?
However, whether it is Zhu Guohua, Zhu Xiaochuan or Xia Chenglin, they all know very well that once Li Tianyi pushes his proposal to replace them to the provincial party committee leaders in the name of obstructing reform, the provincial party committee leaders are likely to adopt Li Tianyi's proposal.
Even if the leaders of the provincial party committee do not agree with Li Tianyi's opinions, since the leaders of the provincial party committee have chosen to let Li Tianyi come to Baoyi County to take charge of the overall situation, they will definitely give Li Tianyi enough support in the early stage. If Li Tianyi really
Without the ability, Baoyi County will eventually be unable to develop, and Baoyi Steel Group will not be able to develop. Then the provincial party committee will definitely directly remove Li Tianyi from office. But by that time, even if Li Tianyi is removed from office, I am afraid that he will not be able to develop Baoyi County.
Xiaochuan and Xia Chenglin have also become victims.
And once Li Tianyi succeeds, then Li Tianyi's proposal to remove the two of them will further verify the correctness of Li Tianyi's decision. By that time, the two of them will have no chance to make a comeback.
Therefore, at this moment, the two of them looked livid, clenched their fists, and wanted to give Li Tianyi a good beating.
Although they wanted to join forces with Wang Guanpeng and Zhu Guohua to hinder Li Tianyi's reform process, now, facing Li Tianyi's strong and domineering advancement ideas, they had to treat it with caution.
The conference room was quiet.
Everyone fell silent. Everyone was digesting what Li Tianyi said just now.
Some people think that what Li Tianyi just said is a good analysis of the hindering role played by the Organization Department and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission in the reform of state-owned enterprises. Some people think that Li Tianyi's views are a bit too extreme, but they have to admit that Li Tianyi's
There is indeed some truth in the analysis. And Li Tianyi's strength makes everyone feel incredible.
Obviously, Li Tianyi was completely desperate. He didn't leave any escape route for himself. He was burning the boat.
Zhu Guohua saw that the situation was so serious, and that the relationship between Li Tianyi, Zhu Xiaochuan, and Xia Chenglin was so tense, he knew that he had to relax a little, otherwise looking at Li Tianyi's momentum, it was really possible to report the two of them directly and replace them.
, this is what he least wants to see.
Thinking of this, Zhu Guohua glanced at Wang Guanpeng and asked him to intervene.
Wang Guanpeng knew that he had to come forward, so he smiled and said: "Secretary Li, everyone should calm down first. I believe that everyone should be clear about the purpose of today's Standing Committee meeting. We are discussing the direction of reform and the ideas of reform.
, Secretary Li must allow everyone to fully express their opinions, we can't just adjust cadres at every turn, right? If that happens, who will dare to express their true opinions on the Standing Committee, it will be meaningless.
Didn't Comrade Zhu Guohua just mention two obstacles? Secretary Li's answer has already solved these two problems. Let's ask Comrade Zhu Guohua to talk about the third obstacle."