207 Feedback on the premiere of 'The Swordsman' on Tianya Forum
The plot of the original version of "The Swordsman" is not bad, but it is messy and very different from the original work.
For example, Linghu Chong is the one who opens the hotel together with Yue Lingshan. Based on this alone, many of the subsequent plots simply do not hold up. If they are forced to round it out, it also goes against the character's own personality and feels awkward.
In addition, Linghu Chong directly became friends with Qu Yang, the elder of the demon sect. In the original work, Linghu Chong was somewhat indifferent between friend and foe, but some foreshadowing was also made.
The foreshadowing of the TV series is slightly poor, almost directly putting Linghu Chong and Qu Yang into the same camp.
It is somewhat similar to the result of the original work, and then it is not advisable to deduce the plot. If the plot is not sufficiently foreshadowed, it will appear blunt and full of loopholes.
It’s okay if the audience doesn’t take it seriously. Once you take it seriously, you’ll get it right.
Cao Xuan had to correct these loopholes in his previous battle of wits and courage with Big Beard. Based on the original work, he and the screenwriters worked together to make the plot related to Linghu Chong not only logically perfect, but at least there were no obvious plot errors.
But it's limited to Linghu Chong, Xu Qing's Ren Yingying doesn't have this kind of treatment.
So, when Xia Yu saw Ren Yingying coming out to chase Qu Yang in the drama, and saw that she and Liu Zhengfeng were in the same mood, she let him go, with a confused look on her face.
He had read the original novel "The Swordsman" and knew Ren Yingying's setting.
It cannot be said that she is not powerful. After all, she is a holy lady from the Demon Sect. With one order, hundreds of martial arts masters will follow her orders. She can be regarded as a big sister of the underworld.
But Ren Yingying's character is not that strong, and her martial arts skills are also great.
In fact, Ren Yingying's martial arts skills in the original work are not bad, but they are just not bad, and there is still some gap between them and the first-class masters in the original work.
Qu Yang is a dignified elder of the Demon Sect. He is even the right protector of the Demon Sect in many film and television versions. He is directly compared to the "Heavenly King" Xiang Wentian. His combat power is almost at the level of the leader of the Five Mountains Sword Sect, and he can even be ranked among the leaders of the Five Mountains.
Ranked in the middle.
Not to mention Liu Zhengfeng, the second master of the Hengshan Sect and a well-known master of the Wuyue Sword Sect, it is possible to enter the top ten in a one-on-one duel.
Ren Yingying came to hunt them down, and her combat power was comparable to that of Xiang Wentian, maybe even a little stronger than Xiang Wentian.
In the original work of "The Swordsman", Xiang Wentian is a bit like a gatekeeper between the top and the first-class. If you beat him, you are the top, if you can't beat him, you are the first-class.
If Ren Yingying's combat power level was similar to that of Xiang Wentian, it wouldn't be a big hassle. The two of them could join forces to kill Xiang Xihu, rescue Ren Woxing, and work together to defeat Dongfang Invincible...
Of course, the force value in the drama is not as clear as in the original work.
One moment, Ren Yingying slaughtered the masters of the Wuyue Sword Sect like a chicken, and the next moment, she was besieged by a bunch of sidekicks and almost died. Although it took a lot of effort, physical exertion, caring for the injured and other off-site factors, it still felt like a forced plot killing.
In fact, it is because Ren Yingying's initial force value is set too high, and many subsequent plots do not make sense, so she can only forcefully reduce negative status points.
In fact, Cao Xuan had a chat with Xu Qing about Ren Yingying's plot and also advised her.
But I don’t know if I don’t dare to argue with the producer or if I just think that such a plot is good for me.
After all, from the perspective of the drama, Ren Yingying's role in the drama is much greater than in the original work, and she is relatively "outstanding". At least during the filming stage, watching the saint aunt giving orders to her subordinates was very impressive.
How should I put it? Cao Xuan strongly suspected that Xu Qing and the screenwriter were influenced by Brigitte Lin's Invincible East.
The character who has both the heroic and domineering character of the demon sect leader and the tender and infatuated character of his daughter is so captivating that it has become a classic in film history.
So much so that when the screenwriter and Xu Qing created Ren Yingying, they consciously or unconsciously moved closer to Brigitte Lin's version of Dongfang Bubai.
But these two roles are not the same concept at all.
What is Ren Yingying? To put it bluntly, she is the mascot in the hands of Dongfang Bubai. She uses the name Dongfang Bubai to fool people. In fact, she does not believe in the demonic religion at all. She tries her best to save her father, walking on thin ice.
This woman is smart and tough, has her own goals, and can even use some extraordinary means to achieve her goals.
Linghu Chong was originally her tool. Because of the piano and flute ensemble, she developed some feelings for her. After getting along with her on a daily basis and experiencing various events and tests, she gradually fell in love with Linghu Chong and became her helper.
And Brigitte Lin's version of Dongfang Invincible is actually an invincible and lonely boss. In the game world, he met a young man with a bad temper, and his heart was moved.
The character design and plot logic are both wrong. If you try to imitate it forcibly, it will only look completely different.
But Xu Qing acquiesced, and Cao Xuan could not intervene and change her scenes. At that time, he felt that Xu Qing might become the focus of attention once the drama was aired.
This is not an exaggeration. In fact, Xu Qing of the original time and space received a lot of criticism, but he couldn't stand it and there was Li Yapeng who performed even better.
It can be said that Li Yapeng alone attracted more than 70% of the firepower, or even more, and the rest was the "pot" of others.
Nowadays, Cao Xuan has optimized the plot of Linghu Chong. Not to mention that he will not be scolded at all, but at least he will not become the main output point.
Without Linghu Chong standing in the way, it would be difficult for Ren Yingying...
It can also be seen from Xia Yu's expression that the other plots are fine, as long as the plots related to Ren Yingying are frowning in some places.
The two episodes ended soon. Yu Canghai started to attack the Fuwei Escort Agency. Linghu Chong was ordered to go down the mountain to participate in the golden basin hand washing ceremony. He encountered Tian Boguang and molested the little nun, so he stepped forward and dealt with him.
It is worth mentioning that in the original version of the latter part of the plot, Li Yapeng filmed it, with an obviously smart expression on his face, while Tian Boguang seemed to be pretending to be stupid and let him do what he wanted.
Now that Cao Xuan is acting, it is more lively and natural. Linghu Chong is smart and Tian Boguang is not stupid either.
Some original works have the meaning of a weak fighting a strong, a battle of wits and courage.
"What do you think?"
Cao Xuan turned off the TV and asked Xia Yu. After all, he was still the best actor in Venice. Although he was well-hydrated, his professional vision was not bad.
"I think this drama is good. The performance of Fu Huadao is fine, the rhythm is also good, and the chance of becoming popular is very high."
"Thanks to your good advice, I'll treat you to a meal if it becomes popular."
"Listen to me, you will definitely be popular."
The two held up the cups in their hands. Xia Yu was full of confidence, as if he was acting. Cao Xuan was not as blind as him, but he was also quite confident.
………
The next day, before Cao Xuan got up from bed, he received a call from Zhang Dabeard.
"Cao Xuan, it's very popular. The first broadcast ratings averaged 9.1, ranking first in the same period, and its market share exceeded 16%. It ranked first in the same period. Our "Swordsman" is very popular."
Zhang Jizhong had a big beard and a loud voice. He shouted a few words that made Cao Xuan's ears hurt and he took his cell phone away.
"Brother Zhang, calm down. Isn't this all expected? The key is word of mouth. Has any newspaper published an article?"
"I haven't seen it yet, I'll go take a look."
After Zhang Bearded said that, he hung up. Cao Xuan was so tickled by him that he went to the kitchen to heat up a glass of milk and turned on the computer to check what discussions were going on online.
He didn't read the news on the portal website, but wanted to read the comments of real netizens and viewers, so he went straight to the Tianya Forum.
As the most popular online forum nowadays, relevant film and television information, Jin Yong's martial arts novels, and Cao Xuan himself are all hot topics in this forum. When these elements are combined, there will definitely be no shortage of topics.
Sure enough, as soon as Cao Xuan entered Tianya, there were several hot posts, starting with
"Have you watched Cao Xuan's "The Swordsman" and what did you think? Tell us what you think?"
Cao Xuan glanced at it. The post was posted early yesterday morning. It had already been replied to hundreds of times this morning. It was quite popular. Click on it to take a look.
【sofa】
[It’s very good-looking. Cao Xuan is very, very, very handsome. Why doesn’t he film more TV series?]
[The nympho upstairs, identification completed]
[With so many TV dramas, how can I have time to sing? I still want to listen to his songs]
[Don’t be crooked, this is a post discussing the drama "The Swordsman"]
[I think Cao Xuan did a good job, and the battle of wits and courage between him and Tian Boguang was very interesting]
[I think it’s average, he’s too handsome, the original Linghu Chong is not that handsome]
[Worst than Lu Songxian, but much better than Ren Xianqi, Ren’s version is simply eye-catching]
[Not worse than Lu Songxian at all, I think Lu Songxian is not good-looking]
[What kind of rubbish is this shot? It’s far worse than the one in Xiangjiang. Mainland China doesn’t understand martial arts at all]
[As far as Xiangjiang is concerned, I have a petty attitude. I just go back and forth with those two scenes. What’s there to see?]
[The quality of CCTV cannot be overemphasized. The scenery, service, soundtrack, and casting are all good. I like them]
[There are too few now, let’s wait and see]
[Ah ah ah, I missed it yesterday when I went out to play. Can I watch it online? 】
[The martial arts moves are good, but I’m tired of seeing those tricks from Hong Kong and Taiwan, and I don’t even dare to fly very far with Qinggong]
[I can’t say who is good or bad for the time being, but this version does capture an atmosphere rarely seen in Hong Kong and Taiwan]
[Indeed, it has that kind of Jianghu flavor, Linghu Chong appears, wearing a bamboo hat and holding a sword in the bamboo forest is so touching]
[And the piano and flute ensemble, in my mind, is comparable to Xu Guanjie singing "A Laugh in the Sea" on horseback in the boat]
[Can’t bear to look at it, give Cao Xuan one star]
[With a rustic flavor, earthy]
[You mama, I get annoyed when I see such stupidity]
[Others are pretty good, but Xu Qing, are you sure the person you photographed is Ren Yingying, I thought it was Zhao Min, Zhao Min is not as good as her]
[Ren Yingying did make random changes, and Zhang Husheng said he would not change a word, bah]
[Xu Qing is too old, playing Ning Zhongze is about the same]
[This is too derogatory, but it is indeed old]
【(⊙o⊙)Wow, I think it looks pretty, why are you all so picky】
[Yes, although there are only two episodes, I think it is the best Linghu Chong and the best "Swordsman" in my heart]
[The evaluation above may be too high, but it is indeed the pinnacle of mainland martial arts dramas]
[It feels a bit like watching a movie]
[Except for Yu Canghai who can change his face, there is nothing wrong with him]
[I think the face change is quite unique, the combination of martial arts and acrobatics is quite interesting]
[The artistic conception is extremely beautiful and the charm is long. This is the world of China, a bit like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". Hong Kong and Taiwan are too limited and I don't feel it.]
[No matter what you say, I will keep chasing you anyway]
【……】
Cao Xuan read this hot post from beginning to end, and also read several of Tianya's "Swordsman" hot posts, which can basically be divided into four categories.
Praise: mostly, probably above 60%. Most of you praise directly, and a small number of you affirm it, but still pick out some dissatisfaction.
Scolding: Too few, about 15~20%, some don’t catch a cold at all, some think it’s not as good as Hong Kong and Taiwan, some don’t like the actors, some hate serving the Tao, some are dissatisfied with the original work, and some are just
Pure venting.
Rainbow farts from fans: about 10%, basically fans of the actors touting and praising them, most of them are fans of Cao Xuan, and a very few are other people.
Version group start: Mainly to debate the pros and cons of the major versions. The main targets are last year's Simon Yam and Lui Songxian, as well as Jet Li's movies.
This is basically an old Jin Yong topic on the forum, and I will tear it into pieces in every play and book.
Ren Xianqi actually had a one-sided fight last year, which was almost a one-sided massacre. Cao Xuan performed well, so the publicity and turmoil caused was far greater than last year.
There is no way, every excellent version has a large number of loyal fans. Since they have different preferences, it is inevitable that they will be divided when they encounter each other.
Cao Xuan is not concerned about who is more classic between himself and Lu Songxian for the time being, but is more concerned about the specific reputation.
At present, the feedback from the premiere of "The Swordsman" is generally positive, and there are also negative reviews, but the main output points are Xu Qing and the shooting style.
Generally speaking, it is much better than the one-sided ridicule of Li Yapeng in the original time and space.
Cao Xuan breathed a sigh of relief, as he had worked hard to optimize and modify "The Swordsman" and finally escaped...