"How can there be any problem in using Confucianism to educate barbarians!" Zhu Yun answered with confidence, which also implied his dissatisfaction with Zhu Zhen's administrative orders in the Valley of Mexico.
He lived in the Valley of Mexico for several months and saw all Zhu Zhen's policies. In his opinion, Zhu Zhen's other policies were very good, whether they were setting up schools to teach local children Chinese, Chinese characters, or using government policies to
Organizing people to weave cloth, smelting copper, mining, or reorganizing households, collecting grain and dispatching missions are all very correct decrees and should be done; but there are two decrees that he feels are not particularly appropriate: one is to transfer many
The local barbarians were demoted as slaves. Secondly, the local people did not use Confucianism to educate the local people but instead used the theory of gods and ghosts.
Zhu Yun believed that it was appropriate to demote those barbarians or savages who dared to resist the government's rule into slaves and let them serve the country, but it was wrong to demote all the barbarians who had not resisted the government's rule into slaves. Of course, you have to pay a price for resisting the government.
In the Central Plains, all leaders, big and small, were beheaded, and the abducted people were sent to the frontiers to guard the borders, and their children were castrated and entered into the palace. The barbarians on the Hanzhou continent were only demoted to slaves and continued to work in their original places, and no one was killed.
Castration is really lenient.
But those who have not resisted the rule of the government should not be punished. Zhu Yun actually had objections to some of Zhu Yuanzhang's decrees and felt that they were too harsh. But even Zhu Yuanzhang still enfeoffed the barbarians who had not resisted the Ming Dynasty's soldiers.
Officials conferred titles on them and never captured them as slaves. This was very inconsistent with the teachings of Confucianism. Even if we followed the direction advocated by Yun in recent years and tried to find out what Confucius and the sages of the pre-Qin Dynasty said and how they did it, Confucius and he never
I have never been taught this way.
This point is very important in Zhu Yun's view, but it is nothing compared to the second point. Letting local barbarians learn Taoist classics and become Taoists, is that called enlightenment? Especially when they wantonly misinterpret "The Songs of Chu"
He could not accept the fact that the gods believed by the Han people in the Central Plains were copied and copied from the gods believed by the Han people in the Central Plains, and they were the same as the gods in the Han continent. "Uncle Liu, Confucianism is a sacred science, a study that educates all peoples, why is it so important
Instead of teaching the local barbarians Confucianism to educate them, they asked Taoist priests to teach them Taoist classics?" After seeing this, Zhu Yun said to Zhu Zhen at that time.
"Everything should not be rigidly adhered to established laws." Zhu Zhen responded at the time: "Confucianism is naturally a sacred science, but the barbarians are not interested in learning Confucianism. The barbarians on the Han continent all believe in gods and have no interest in Confucianism, a science of managing the world.
If they are unwilling to learn, if they are forced to learn Confucianism, they will get twice the result with half the effort and be useless.”
"But it's different if you let them study Taoist classics. You should also know how your twelfth uncle conquered the local savage tribes when he first arrived in Jinchuan; you should also know how I conquered the barbarians in the Valley of Mexico. Whether it was the Jinchuan savages or the
The barbarians here were frightened by the firearms and horses they had never seen before, and they thought that we Han people were the messengers of the gods, and we were very powerful messengers of the gods. As long as they were asked to do things in the name of the gods, they would not dare to do anything wrong, and
Very serious.”
"Let them study Taoist classics. Because they think that after learning the Tao Te Ching and so on, they will become messengers of the gods, so they will naturally study hard and learn Chinese and Chinese characters."
"Yes," Zhu Zhen said in a more serious tone: "It's not that I don't want to teach the barbarian Confucianism in Hanzhou. When I first came to Hanzhou, I also asked your uncle why he didn't teach Confucianism to the local children instead of teaching Confucianism to the local children.
"Tao Te Ching". It's just that things must be done step by step, and the road must be walked step by step. When the people under my rule in Hanzhou Continent have learned Chinese, Chinese characters, and have some understanding of the civilization of the Ming Dynasty, then
It’s time to teach them Confucianism.”
"This is true even when it comes to educating the barbarians around the Central Plains. In the early years of Hongwu, my father ordered the barbarian chieftains to go to the yamen to set up Confucianism to educate them, but it was of little use; but now, His Majesty sends doctors to various tribes to treat the locals.
After the treatment, more and more people are learning Chinese characters, and more and more people are willing to read Confucian classics."
"My nephew thinks what you said, Uncle Liu, is a bit biased." Zhu Yun said: "Teaching them Taoism first, and then teaching them Confucianism after they learn Chinese and Chinese characters can indeed help them learn Chinese and Chinese characters faster, but isn't this?
Enlightenment? This is just to change the local barbarians from one religion to another, from one god to another. How can it be called enlightenment?"
"Only by letting them know things and understand the truth can we call it enlightenment!" Zhu Yun said very seriously: "First of all, let them understand the truth and understand the principles of the world, then learn etiquette and become people who know etiquette, and then teach them other things, then we can call it enlightenment.
. Taking advantage of the local people’s ignorance of firearms and horses and forcing them to talk about gods and ghosts to attract them to learn Taoism is not called enlightenment.”
Zhu Zhen naturally had a reply to Zhu Yun's words, but Zhu Yun still had something to say, and in the end naturally no one could convince anyone. The Valley of Mexico was Zhu Zhen's home turf, and the local barbarians were all his subjects.
, naturally Zhu Zhen can decide what they study, Zhu Yun has no say; but now that he has finally arrived at Zhu Yun's home court, of course he must implement his own ideas.
When Zhu Zhen heard what he said, he knew that he would not change his mind, so he could only stop persuading him. He sighed and said, "Yun, you will definitely regret it in the future."
He didn't answer this sentence, probably to preserve the dignity of both parties; but the expression on his face showed his thoughts: 'I must be right, you should be the one who regrets it in the future.'
Seeing his expression, Zhu Zhen was no longer in the mood to say anything, nor was he in the mood to stay in Mayapan City anymore. He even wanted to refuse the dinner, but it was Zhu Bai who persuaded him, so he agreed to stay after dinner and leave early tomorrow morning.
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In fact, Zhu Bai did not agree with Zhu Yun's idea. Zhu Zhen's rhetoric was the first one he proposed. He just did not fully follow Zhu Zhen's approach because the Jinchuan barbarians under his rule were not so pious in their belief in gods. However,
He felt that what he did in the Valley of Mexico was quite reasonable. It was just that he had already concluded that persuasion was useless from the experience of trying to persuade Zhu Yun how to act in the past few days and was rejected, so he did not say anything.
At the dinner, Zhu Yun probably felt that his rebuttal to Zhu Zhen in the afternoon was too harsh, so he deliberately eased the atmosphere. He did not talk about any topics in this area, but only talked about some gossip, interesting things about his childhood in the capital, and his experiences in Hanzhou.
Bai and Zhu Zhen also kept talking to each other, and the atmosphere became harmonious again.
However, when the three vassal princes gathered together, the topic inevitably turned to governance. Zhu Zhen drank some more wine and said, "Yun, you still have to be wary of the Japanese who come to your fiefdom."
"Although the Japanese also learn from our Chinese civilization, they are different from the Chinese civilization. They cannot be regarded as barbarians, nor can they be regarded as Han people. The propriety in this must be measured."
"My nephew thinks that the Japanese don't need to worry. How many people are there? My nephew has a total of 1,200 people coming from the Central Plains. Among them, there are only more than 100 Japanese, accounting for only 10%. How can I
What would he do that would be detrimental to his nephew?" Zhu Yundao said.
"We can't take it completely lightly. The Book of Jin clearly remembers that in the Jin Dynasty, many barbarians moved into the Central Plains from the north and the west, which eventually led to the Five Barbarians' chaos in China," Zhu Bai said.
"The Wu Hu who were in chaos were originally barbarians. The Central Plains was in chaos before they were civilized. It happened that many Jin clan and vassal kings appointed them as soldiers and generals, which made the Wu Hu grow bigger. My nephew would not use them as soldiers to fight, let alone
It will cause chaos in the fiefdom, so there is no need to take more precautions."
"However," Zhu Yun added, "the concerns of the two uncles are reasonable. In this case, in a few days, the nephew will separate all the Japanese people and live separately. The few nobles from Japan, or samurai
People were recruited into the army as generals, but Japanese were not recruited as soldiers, and the officers and soldiers under their command were also a mixed army of Han Chinese and local barbarians."
Zhu Yun did this, firstly, to guard against the Japanese. The difference between the Japanese and the Han people was very small. Even the Japanese language at this time could be regarded as a dialect of Chinese. It was no more difficult to communicate with the Japanese than it was with northerners and Cantonese.
, as long as they are dispersed and do not come into contact with other Japanese, they will become Han people. Recruiting samurai into the army and giving them something to do will greatly reduce the time they can spend connecting with each other, and it will also help to assimilate the Japanese who came with them.
civilian.
The second is that he really lacks generals who can lead troops to fight. If a noble family like the Xu family has considered sending people to the Hanzhou continent to establish a branch out of the idea of Cunning Rabbit Three Caves, but the middle and lower-level generals are not so good.
I have no idea of going to Hanzhou Continent.
First, even if the emperor purges the nobles, only a few middle-level and lower-level generals will be affected, and most people will not be affected. There is no need to worry about the family being wiped out by the emperor's imperial edict; secondly, the children of the noble families will come to the Han Dynasty
In the continent of Hanzhou, you can also be a master of men, and you will not be short of food and clothing, and you don't have to worry about dying in battle. However, even if the middle and lower-level generals come to the continent of Hanzhou, they are still generals commanding the army, and they need to personally lead the troops to fight against the barbarians.
, although their status is higher than the local barbarians, their status in the Ming Dynasty is also higher than that of the civilians. It may not be easier to advance their status than in the Central Plains. Thirdly, they are afraid that the boat will sink and fall into the sea halfway, and they will be in vain.
Lost his life.
Because of the above three reasons, there are very few middle- and lower-level generals who are willing to come to the Hanzhou continent. When Zhu Bai came, he kidnapped a group of people from his own three guards; when Zhu Zhen came, he also kidnapped a group of people from his own three guards; Zhu Yunxin
Shan was unwilling to force his generals to follow him to the Hanzhou Continent to suffer hardships. His generals also knew that this was a major issue related to whether they could stay in the Central Plains. They did not care about taking care of His Highness's face, so they all expressed their unwillingness to go, so
Zhu Yun did not bring any middle- and lower-level generals from the Central Plains, so there was a serious lack of generals.
It just so happened that Japanese samurai had learned the art of war, and some of them had led troops in battles. They were also good at martial arts and could speak Chinese, so they were suitable for middle and lower-level generals. So Zhu Yun decided to recruit all the samurai under his command.
Enter the army.
Moreover, although he disliked the Japanese system very much, he felt that the Japanese warriors were all literate, read Confucianism, and some could even write poetry. They could be said to be men of both civil and military skills, and he liked them very much. He once worked with Zhu
Zhen once said: "If the generals of the Ming Dynasty could do this, why would we still need to worry about the generals causing rebellion?"
Of course, Zhu Zhen disapproved of Zhu Yun's idea. On the one hand, Zhu Yun supported the separation of civil and military affairs, but on the other hand, he wanted all military generals to be Confucian generals with both civil and military skills. How could there be such a good thing in the world? But he thought this
There's no need to say it, it's just not said.
However, no matter what Zhu Yun thought, these two methods were correct. Both Zhu Bai and Zhu Zhen said: "These two methods are good and should be done like this. When we go back, we will follow suit."
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"One more thing, my nephew needs help from his two uncles." Seeing that they all agreed with his move, Zhu Yun felt much better and said, "When my nephew said that he would bring a lot of paper before setting off, his Majesty said: 'Ten
The second uncle has been in the Hanzhou continent for several years and has brought craftsmen there. How can it be that he hasn't even made paper yet? You don't need to bring more, just bring this little.' After hearing this, the nephew only brought
There was very little paper, but a lot of copper and iron belts. But just as Your Majesty expected, Uncle Twelve had already made paper. Even Uncle Six, who had just arrived in Hanzhou Continent the year before last, had also made paper. The two uncles were indeed very
sharp."
He gave them both a small flattery and continued: "But my nephew has just come to Hanzhou Continent and has just received a fief. He won't be able to make paper for a while, so he needs the help of his two uncles.
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In Zhu Yun's idea, he planned to build Confucian schools in every city in the Yucatan Peninsula and recruit a large number of children to study there, which would require a lot of paper. What he brought was not enough.
"Don't worry about running out of paper. I'll bring you as much as you need." Zhu Bai and Zhu Zhen both said. They didn't bother arguing with Zhu Yun about the paper.
"Then thank you two uncles." Zhu Yun smiled and thanked again. After that, the three of them stopped talking about political affairs, and the host and guest finished the meal happily.
When Zhu Bai and Zhu Zhen left on the second day, Zhu Yun planned to start managing the fiefdom according to his own ideas, but what he didn't expect was that something unexpected happened soon.