Ling Jinhua chuckled and did not refuse to answer Luo Ziling's question: "Ma Zhou was born in poverty. After helping Zhonglang Chang He to become a Taoist priest, he was reused by Li Shimin and eventually became Zhongshu Ling. Although the prime minister of the Tang Dynasty was not alone,
There are more than ten thousand people under him, but he is also the ultimate minister. Ma Zhou is very good both in character and political ability. He is a famous official in the world who comes from a poor family. He was born under the rule of a famous king in a prosperous age. Talented people are very good.
Don't be buried. Didn't Li Shi once say that all the talented people in the world were reused by him?"
"Wei Zheng is an example set by Emperor Taizong. He is straightforward and outspoken. Although his political talents are not very good, his reputation in history is very good. He is also a model of being a minister. He and Ma Zhou, Fang Fang
, Du and other famous officials in the early Tang Dynasty worked hard to assist Li Shimin and did their part for the emergence of the Zhenguan era. Without these famous officials, the rule of Zhenguan may not have appeared."
"My great-grandfather's evaluation is quite satisfactory!" Luo Ziling smiled and asked Ling Jinhua: "My great-great-grandfather prefers Ma Zhou or Wei Zheng?"
"Ma Zhou!" Ling Jinhua answered without hesitation and gave his own reasons: "Ma Zhou has good abilities and almost no stains. He was born in a poor family and is a role model for many people. Wei Zheng, in addition to being outspoken and outspoken, has other qualities.
It’s really not that good.”
"I think people who can be upright and outspoken are really worthy of admiration. The promise of thousands of people is not as good as the care of one person." Luo Ziling said seriously: "I think the emergence of the Zhenguan era is a very important reason.
There were so many upright and outspoken ministers around Li Shimin, not only Wei Zheng, but also Xiao, Wen Yanbo, Cen Wenwen, and Dai Zhou. These people dared to be angry and outspoken. During court meetings, they dared to accuse Emperor Li Shimin of his faults in front of the civil and military officials of the court.
Except for Li Shimin's time, this kind of situation rarely happened in other dynasties."
"The most important reason why the Tang Dynasty prospered more than ten years after the founding of the country was that there were so many upright and outspoken ministers and an emperor who was very open-minded. Looking at the history, the social atmosphere was open and people could evaluate the success and failure of the government at will.
, were all in their heyday. During the Zhenguan period, Wei Zheng, Wen Yanbo, and Xiao dared to scold Li Shimin and ran away, even chasing him into the harem to continue scolding him. Bai Juyi dared to write the story of Li Longji and Yang Yuhuan into "Song of Everlasting Sorrow", haha, actually
, we are not as good as the ancients.”
Luo Ziling's emotion after his last "haha" words made Ling Jinhua change his face.
"What do you mean?" he asked Luo Ziling expressionlessly.
He found that he had misunderstood what Luo Ziling meant.
Luo Ziling stopped smiling and said seriously: "Tang poetry is the pinnacle of Chinese cultural development, and it is difficult for later generations to surpass. The top-down tolerance of the Tang Dynasty is also difficult for later generations to match. The nine heavens open the palace and the clothes of all nations.
Thank you Mianqi. Grandpa, do you think you have reached the heights of the Tang Dynasty after working hard all your life?"
"Why not?" Ling Jinhua's face looked a little ugly, "Can life in the Tang Dynasty be compared with now?"
"I mean horizontal comparison, vertical comparison is meaningless. With the development of the times and the progress of science and technology, no matter what aspect, it will definitely get better and better." Luo Ziling shook his head, "I feel that the advantages that the Tang Dynasty is praised by future generations do not have in our era.
.Grandpa, before you retire, who dares to point your nose at you, correct your mistakes, and scold you in front of others like Wei Zheng, Xiao, and Wen Yanbo did back then?"
"I'm not Li Shimin!" Ling Jinhua replied stiffly.
"You as a whole are Li Shimin, but no one of you can be as generous and tolerant as Li Shimin. Our entire society does not have the tolerance and grandeur of the Tang Dynasty, let alone the open-mindedness from top to bottom.
Everyone likes to hear good things, and cannot accept other people's opinions. No one dares to give you opinions. Everywhere you go, hello, me, hello, everyone." At this point, Luo Ziling paused, and then gave his final opinion.
He said it out: "I think if this situation is allowed to continue, it will be impossible for us to catch up with the United States. Today's Lao America is almost the same as the Tang Dynasty in its heyday, and can tolerate the world.
..."
"Do you think it's appropriate for you to say this?" Ling Jinhua interrupted Luo Ziling.
"Yeah, it's not appropriate, because we are not in the Tang Dynasty now. What we need are obedient people, not different opinions. The ancient saying that good medicine tastes bitter and loyal advice offends the ears has long been forgotten by everyone." Luo Ziling said, pointing to Ling Ruonan.
, "Actually, I think one thing that makes my mother better than most people is that she dares to tell the truth. Because of this, I really hope that she can go one step further and reach the point where she can influence the whole of China. If there is such a day,
I will definitely urge my mother to regard the highest principle of governance as "a thousand people are not as good as one person's care". I also feel that if one day I finally enter the officialdom, what I want to do is to hope that the atmosphere of the entire society will change.
It’s like this.”
Ling Ruonan didn't expect that Luo Ziling would talk nonsense like this when he arrived at Ling Jinhua's place, and drag her into it. She couldn't help but dumbfounded. But after looking at the expressions of Ling Jinhua and Luo Ziling, she did not say anything to stop her, and allowed Luo Ziling to continue.
That's nonsense there.
Ling Jinhua was not angry, just a little excited. The matter was not out of control.
Moreover, she also agreed with what Luo Ziling said.
She has a relatively upright temperament. Although the degree of her uprightness has "condensed" as she grows older and improves her status, she still likes those who dare to tell the truth. She hopes that her subordinates will be loyal, but she hates flattery.
She feels that people who never give you advice are not really loyal. A truly loyal person is someone who dares to point out what you are doing wrong and gives you his own suggestions.
She also knew Luo Ziling's temperament very well.
Although my son is a bit tactful in doing things, he is also a very upright person at heart.
If he wasn't such a person, he wouldn't have fallen out with other Ling family members at Ling Jinhua's 90th birthday party.
It is even more impossible to say those straightforward words to Ling Jinhua and Ling Mingrui.
She also wanted to see how Ling Jinhua reacted after Luo Ziling said these things directly.
"You are too idealistic." Ling Jinhua was not angry. He looked at Luo Ziling twice, then looked at Ling Ruonan, and smiled again, "Nan Nan, your son is an idealist. He thinks about things too much.
It’s simple, if you don’t change your temper, you will definitely suffer in the future.”
"Grandpa," Luo Ziling replied before Ling Ruonan: "I won't change it. I don't think this is idealism, nor is it impossible to realize. Since you are reading history, and it is the history of the early Tang Dynasty,
Then you can see what the atmosphere in the court was like at that time. As long as the superiors lead by example and are not formalistic, the top-down influence is still very powerful. I think you can tolerate me talking nonsense in front of you.
If you are talking nonsense, then I will definitely tell you more of my suggestions and tell you a lot of truth; otherwise, you won’t be able to hear the truth. I think most people like to tell the truth to others and hate it.
You have to be hypocritical and submissive when getting along with others, right? Since everyone is like this, why do you have to let yourself be hypocritical?"
"Do you want to gain more support from me for your mother in this way?" When asking this question, Ling Jinhua's eyes flashed.