"Although you said that both scientific research and literary creation require fantasy, I think there is still a big difference between the two in nature?" Yang Wen asked a question from the script.
Yang Fan nodded, "I remember hearing Zhang Zhong discuss this issue before. In fact, literature and science were not separated at the beginning. In ancient times, scientists were equal to writers. At that time, Zhang Zhong cited "The Book of Changes"
The Sutra contains a wealth of knowledge on philosophy, astronomy, etc. Over time, science and literature gained independent subject status."
Zhang Zhong continued, "Physics always wants to grasp things that are far away from itself, but literature always needs to grasp things that are closer to itself."
"Is it the same even for science fiction literature?" Yang Wen asked.
Zhang Chong smiled and said, "Same, as I said before, science fiction is not science. The scientific and technological knowledge in it is secondary. The most important thing is to express the heart. No matter how far the research of physicists has progressed, science fiction works
It is still under the author’s control.”
"Speaking of which, I have a question to ask Zhang Zhong. I really like one of your short stories called "Life is Like a Piano String". When reading this novel, I sometimes thought, I
Could it be that he is the little blind man in the novel? In the field of physics, we are sometimes like blind men. Perhaps the world we think is fundamentally different from what it originally is. For example, we see the one sitting under our butt now.
The sofa, we say it is blue, but there is a problem is whether the blue we see is the same to each other, and seeing color is just a visual effect of our human body on light, and what does it itself look like?
, we have no way of knowing. Because there is light, and because it can reflect light, we can feel something we call color through the reflected light."
Yang Fan picked up the teacup but did not drink the water, and continued, "All our research, what we see, what we hear, and what we feel do not depend on what the world is like, but on ourselves.
Why would you create such a blind character?"
After finishing speaking, Yang Fan took a sip and said.
Yang Wen was still a little confused by what Yang Fan said just now.
But there was no need for her to speak at this moment, because Zhang Zhong quickly said, "I don't think as much as Mr. Yang. The story "Life is like a piano string" is more about thinking about survival. Life is like a string.
Just like a string, one end of the string is oneself, and the other end of the string is the purpose. Only when both ends exist can the string of life be tightened and make a sound. Everyone's purpose is different, just like Mr. Yang, what do you think about this
There are still too many confusions in the world, and no one can give you the answers to these confusions, so you are always pursuing the answers. Although the answer may be far away and may never be pursued, as long as it is at the other end of the string, then
This string can collapse. I think the purpose itself is nothing, the important thing is to get joy from the tense process. People thousands of years ago didn't know that starfish are round, and they didn't know that the sun is bigger than starfish.
Little did I know that starfish are just a drop in the ocean in the universe, but scientists have never stopped pursuing..."
"I sometimes stand under the stars and look up. Occasionally I feel frustrated. There are so many things in this world that we don't know. Even if I spend my whole life, I won't be able to see them all. Not to mention the stars hanging in the sky.
I don’t have the opportunity to visit, even if it’s the starfish under our feet, I can only see the rare ones.”
Yang Fan nodded and said, "The manpower is sometimes exhausted, which is quite helpless."
…
The chat between the two gradually deepened. Although Yang Fan was a physicist, his literary literacy was not low. He chatted with Zhang Zhong and started to discuss the meaning of life.
Who are you, where do you come from, and where are you going.
They can actually talk about this kind of problem.
Yang Wen on the side was a little helpless. She couldn't talk about many topics because she couldn't understand many of the things the two said. She could only take advantage of the opportunity and ask the questions in the script when she saw a good opportunity.
Two hours of this chat passed, with no rest except for adding some water.
However, two hours had passed since the recording of the program, and less than half of the questions on the script had not been asked. As the host, Yang Wen had become a bystander, leaving Zhang Zhong and Yang Fan in the main studio.
Perhaps noticing Yang Wen's dilemma, Zhang Zhong brought the topic back at the end of the program, "What books does Ms. Yang usually like to read?"
Hearing Zhang Zhong's question, Yang Wen looked at him gratefully. Although it was a question and it seemed that the identities of the guest and the host had been swapped, it still put the control of the topic back in her hands as the host.
, she can then ask the questions on the script, and the rest will be left to post-editing.
In the end, the recording of the program ended after two and a half hours.
Yang Wen breathed a deep sigh of relief, then smiled and said to Zhang Zhong and Yang Fan, "Finally, I would like to thank you two for sharing today. I think many viewers, like me, will benefit a lot from listening to your sharing today."
Afterwards, Zhang Zhong and Yang Fan left the studio, while Yang Wen stayed to record some scenes.
On the way back to the lounge, Yang Fan said with a smile, "Being on a show like this is easier than I thought. I haven't had such a chat for a long time."
"Mr. Yang's words today also touched me deeply." Zhang Zhong smiled and complimented.
"Oh, by the way, don't forget the things I entrusted you with before."
"Absolutely, I will ask Ms. Yang to bring me two books after she is over."
Yang Fan smiled and said, "You can come to my house if you have time in the future. I heard that you come to Yanjing often."
“It’s true that they come quite often. I will definitely go and visit next time I have the opportunity.”
The two sat in the lounge for a while, and Yang Wen came over with a few Zhang Zhong's books. This made Zhang Zhong look at him with admiration. He didn't expect Yang Wen to be so attentive and still remember this matter.
After signing these books and giving them to Yang Fan, the two left the CCTV building.
After watching Zhang Zhong and the others leave, Yang Wen exhaled and relaxed.
Geng Peng, who was standing next to him, saw her like this and joked, "Has our host, Mr. Yang, ever been so nervous?"
"Aren't you nervous? The things they talked about were too deep, and it was difficult for me to pick up the conversation."
Geng Peng smiled and said, "Actually, it doesn't matter. In this episode, we mainly watch the dialogue between the two of them. It's okay if you use less footage."
"That's great. You have to give me a good cut later."