A movie like "Joker" is actually a relatively heavy movie even for Li Yi.
However, at this moment, Chen Wen suddenly sneered and said: "This kind of movie cannot be released in China. Moreover, I still say that if a movie can really affect reality, then a civilized society should have
How fragile."
Tang Lu also nodded and said: "It would be a pity not to film such a good story! Director Li, what are you struggling with?"
Li Yi actually didn't quite understand what he was struggling with.
Is the story of "Joker" really what opponents like Lin Yunbin and others say?
Was everything he did forced?
Nothing he does is subjective?
Suddenly Li Yi suddenly realized that if everything he did was not subjective, then it would naturally not affect reality.
After all, the clown in the movie is not subjectively evil, right?
"Do you all think I should film this story?" Li Yi asked.
"Of course! Human nature is inherently evil. But this kind of evil is the goodness and rules created by humans, which highlight people's original desires and natural attributes as "evil". So from a certain perspective, there is no distinction between good and evil in the world.
Because of human thinking and rule-making, the concept of "evil" is created. The Joker explores the definition of good and evil. The protagonist is wandering between good and evil. You can't tell whether this is a hateful or pitiful character. Everyone
You can all find something in common with clowns: loneliness, melancholy, rejection, and fear of ridicule."
"Of course! In fact, the environment in which the clown was born is very harsh! Isn't it?"
“It would be a shame not to take pictures!”
"right!"
Li Yi did not make a decision immediately.
Actually speaking, Li Yi prefers the clown in "The Dark Knight", not because the actor who played the clown died, but because the clown in "The Dark Knight" is purer.
But "Joker" has something unique about this movie.
After the show, Li Yi was also thinking about whether to make this movie.
"What? Are you still thinking?" Mu Qing looked at Li Yi who was still thinking at night and couldn't help but ask.
"Yeah, I'm thinking about whether to shoot the script "Joker"," Li Yi said.
"I think you should take the photo!" Mu Qing said.
"Why?" Li Yi asked doubtfully.
"Actually, I don't understand why you are so entangled. First of all, this is just a movie and a story. The clown does things logically and is not simply anti-social. Secondly, the city that created the clown is such a sinful city.
Although the clown seems to be a repressed social animal living in the present, in fact, most of the time, it is the influence of the environment!
Besides, it can't be shown in China, right?" Mu Qing blinked and said.
Li Yi couldn't help but smile a little after thinking about it!
If this movie is to be made, it will definitely be shot in Hollywood, and the social background will also be overseas.
Therefore, Li Yi gave a copy of the script to his old partner James Dean.
What Li Yi didn't expect was that when James Dean from Dean Pictures saw the script, he became excited.
"Lee, as expected of you, this is really an exciting story!" James Dean said with excitement.
"But don't you think that if a movie like this is released, some unpredictable things will happen?" Li Yi asked.
"Li, you think too much, this is just a movie, okay? There are too many people in this world, and their lives are too depressing. They also need a window to vent, don't they?
The clown is not subjectively evil, he was just forced and forced again and again, so he became like that!
In reality, even without "Joker", bad guys will not become good guys, and good guys will not become bad guys just because of a movie! So you really think too much!" James Dean said with disapproval.
To be honest, Li Yi understands James Dean's attitude.
Because this is a lighthouse country, it flaunts freedom and freedom.
Hollywood is more exaggerated than "Joker", and there are really not many movies on a larger scale.
In fact, to put it bluntly, for them, as long as the movie can sell well, they don't care at all whether it will have any impact.
Therefore, Li Yi couldn't help but laugh. He really had a disease and went to the doctor indiscriminately.
Then shoot it!
The movie "Joker" has indeed caused some controversy in the world in memory. Some people think that the praise this movie has received reflects a kind of rationalization and promotion of "evil", which is politically incorrect. Don't you think
Is it justified to be insulted and do evil because of setbacks in your career because of your own level and shortcomings?
After a movie is released, it will always be subject to secondary interpretations that are out of the control of the producer. This itself is a social extension of the movie. In my opinion, from the movie itself, I cannot see what the director intended to beautify the clown. In fact, in his
When the Flower of Evil bloomed, he was still called a "vigilante" in Gotham public opinion, which was not much different from the later Batman's reputation. And the film also explained that Gotham society at that time had an undercurrent
The surging and dissatisfied bottom has accumulated elements of violence and is ready to explode.
Therefore, the history of Gotham chose the Joker. It was not him who fired the first shot at the violent criminal grouping of Gotham. He was just a symbol. Just as at the end of the film, he was not the one to cheer up, but was rejected by the dissatisfied people.
The Joker is actually a symbol in Gotham-based film and television works, an extreme symbol of taking pleasure in evil. But without such a character, where would the glory of Batman be?
And this "Joker" is the birth history of the first villain in the Hollywood comics industry. He is also an antisocial person with a schizophrenic personality. If you have to make this process appear reasonable in a limited time, you can't follow this path.
How to proceed? Speaking more broadly, the symbolic meaning of the clown is that in an uneasy society, the restless crowd itself is brewing destructive power, and the clown is involved in it by accident and becomes a leader.
and spiritual totems, allowing this kind of power to explode. This kind of phenomenon occurs periodically in human history itself. You can't bury your head in the sand.
This chapter is not finished yet, please click the next page to continue reading the exciting content! Li Yi remembers someone commenting on this movie: "Some of the moral criticisms this movie has received make me feel that it is not that there is a problem with its position, but that some critics are too
Psychologically fragile, even an ostrich that ignores historical reality.
As for worrying about the negative social impact of this movie, that really makes me feel ridiculous. More people like this movie just because they think it is good-looking and the characters are vivid, but everyone is very bright. In the real world, of course, it is more
I hope that the person next to me is Batman, not a laughing madman. Back then, Heath Ledger’s version of the Joker was so amazing that it caused an increase in the crime rate in the beautiful country? But at that time, there was Batman who directly punished him.
, unlike this film, which has a disturbing ending with the clown taking over. In fact, this film also laid many foreshadowings for the future of Gotham Story Society, such as the criminal "Advanced Academy" Rackham, such as the birth of Batman
The night of the birth, yes, the ending of the story actually has positive energy. The Joker rises in troubled times, but Bruce Wayne's eyes in the tragedy have also told us that the power of justice is also growing.
"Joker" tells the story of the birth of a villain, and this amplification of evil also has the background of social unrest hinted in the film, which is often overlooked by many people. This is not a traditional superhero movie or spin-off.
There are no intense dramatic conflicts or big scenes. It has the quality of a literary film and gives Joaquin Phoenix a stage to perform in an always gloomy atmosphere. He also embodies his own value brilliantly. Therefore, "Joker" as
The success of the movie is the result of a film that is not perfect but has been carefully crafted in all aspects. Its excellence as a movie itself certainly should not be obliterated by some inexplicable criticism of values."
However, there is no Batman in this world, but it doesn't hurt.
Because the main thing is not Batman, but the city of Gotham!
There were quite a few actors who auditioned to play the Joker in this movie.
But Li Yi was not satisfied with several of them. Since he decided to make it, he must hope to make a good movie!
And the actor of the Joker is obviously the most critical and core point of this movie.
"Hi, Steven!"
"Hi, Director Li!"
The one who came to audition was the relatively famous Hollywood actor, the winner of the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, Steven Beale.
"Have you read the summary of the script?" Li Yi asked.
Of course, the script Li Yi gave to Steven before was just a synopsis of the Joker's character.
However, it is enough for auditions.
Steven nodded and said, "I've seen it!"
"Tell me what you think. What kind of person do you think Arthur is?" Li Yi asked.
Steven was silent for a moment and said: "Arthur is a mediocre middle-aged man who relies on a not-so-respectable job to make a living. He has a mentally disturbed mother to take care of, and even his own mental state is not normal.
.Whenever he couldn't hold back his laughter due to excessive nervousness, which caused others to misunderstand him, he couldn't explain it, and others might not listen. Rather than saying it was some kind of neurological disease, I was more inclined to think that he laughed instead.
Screaming, releasing silent repression - no one cares about his repression, including himself. He is not only the edge ignored by the system, but also the edge of his own world that has been domesticated by the system.
In his world, his needs and emotions can only be shrunk in a corner."
"Do you think the clown is taking revenge on society? Is the tragedy caused by the gap between rich and poor and class gap?" Li Yi asked. This question can be said to be very critical.
"How should I put it? I don't completely agree with this. First of all, he is a mental patient and has been for many years. I think this is a very critical point.
The external stimulation is on the one hand, but essentially it is because he was mentally ill and suddenly stopped taking medication. In other words, his transformation was not caused by one person or one thing, but a process that lasted for many years.
Mental illness worsens due to the combined effects of many factors.
From the synopsis of the story, we know that he has entered a psychiatric hospital before!
He was taking seven kinds of psychiatric drugs at the same time, seven kinds! Frequent laughing unconsciously was also one of the symptoms.
He was beaten severely as a child and suffered a brain injury, and his mother also had mental problems.
He kept saying that he was in pain all the time. In fact, this was a very typical symptom of depression.
Although bullying exists in society and it is true that he does not have a formal job, many times the negative thoughts in his mind are not necessarily given by others, but are caused by his inherent depression. For example, he feels that everyone hates him
, feeling that everyone is laughing at him. Although sometimes we are laughed at, we do not think that everyone is laughing at us, nor do we hate everyone because of this. This is the difference in thinking between normal people and people with mental illness. In fact, many people
Normal people, even if they live an ordinary life, are very optimistic. But he is not, he doesn't know how to be happy.
Therefore, I personally think that he is not retaliating against society, or there are certain factors, but not all.
I saw in the story that the free medical consultation and medicine that the clown once had were suddenly no longer available.
What will happen if a mentally ill patient suddenly stops taking medication?
Most of the drugs used for mental illness are to relieve symptoms, such as insomnia and headache, and require long-term medication. My husband is a pharmacist, and he has many patients who have been taking them for many years. And the conditions of these people are indeed compared to
For normal people, it is unstable. For example, some of his patients will suddenly commit suicide or go to jail. As a pharmacist, he found that this person never came to get medicine, and his family only learned about it after they came.
But if a mentally ill patient suddenly loses the control of these drugs and does not receive psychological counseling, at this time, it is easy for him to engage in some extreme behaviors and hallucinations...
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading! Of course, there is a more critical point, the background!”
"I don't know which city this Gotham refers to, but it is obviously a sinful city. I think maybe only in such a sinful city can the Joker be born," Steven said.
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Li Yi didn't expect that the other party would study it so deeply.
You know, the outline of the script Li Yi gave him was not that detailed.
“I remember a saying that if a city has a lot of homeless people, a lot of people who are oppressed, a lot of people begging on the streets, then it’s not their fault, it’s the city’s fault!
As for the clown's experiences, I think they are particularly relevant to the pain points of ordinary people in big cities in peaceful times. In terms of situation, Arthur is doing a very ordinary job; in terms of performance, he habitually pleases others; in his heart, he is very lonely and longs to be loved;
In terms of feelings, he doesn't know what to believe, so he always feels cheated; in the end, especially in pursuit, his dream of being a comedian is repeatedly frustrated. His trauma comes from the metropolis itself.
He is powerless to dream. He wants to be a comedian, very modern and normal: a comedian, releasing creativity, not laundering money or engaging in capital operations, bringing pure happiness to everyone, and gaining true respect - for this reason
, Arthur has devoted a lot of effort. But this kind of dream is encouraged by this society: the idols in the mass media are glamorous, full of chicken soup, kind and kind, encouraging you to have opportunities, and you must live a life of continuous output and widespread recognition.
A recognized life is to be a person who is either talented or capable. But Arthur doesn’t know how to really call himself a comedian: this city is too big, there are too many uncertainties, and the probability of realizing his dream is too high.
When he was young, his failure was not just his inability to tell jokes."
