Chapter 1,741 Everything is just a fantasy of mental illness
However, "Joker" still caused a lot of "confusion" after it was released at the Venice Film Festival. It can only be said that this society is always more magical than imagined.
This is also the reason why Li Yi didn't want to make this movie before, because "Joker" will really affect reality. Although it is only a small group of people, it is enough to cause a bad impact.
Of course, since it was only screened during the Venice Film Festival and has not yet been officially released worldwide, there are currently no particularly big problems.
But "Joker" is already out of the spotlight, and queues to buy tickets lasted throughout the festival.
And more interpretations about "Joker" have also appeared on the Internet.
Some people even started to dig into the details.
Especially domestic film critics, compared to foreign film critics, they really don't have any pressure to spoil the movie, because this movie is destined to be impossible to be released in China.
So, it really doesn't matter.
As a die-hard fan of Li Yi, Liu Fei did not intend to write a film review in a formal manner this time, because this movie has been interpreted by too many people.
Therefore, he chose to interpret it from another angle. Of course, the audience his article was aimed at was also from China.
"At the beginning, I also wrote a little bit, but then I saw the interpretations of many big guys from abroad, and suddenly I felt that it was unnecessary. So, I thought about whether to do spoiler interpretations now, but because there is currently no such interpretation in China,
There are plans to release this film (I guess I won’t be able to), so I won’t wait any longer. I can only give a spoiler warning.
The reason why I decided to write this interpretation is mainly because after watching the film for the second time, I discovered more details. I also found feedback from some viewers that the plot of the film was simple and cliché. I knew it, and they also followed me for the first time.
It was the same as when I watched it the first time. I thought things were too simple. In other words, I didn’t understand the director’s thoughts.
Watching it again, I found that this movie actually has many, many details. It deliberately sets up many traps so that you can’t tell which ones are real and which ones are false. Many people complained about the last scene.
When the scene of a crowd surrounding the clown is provocative, are you really sure that the scene really happened?
In fact, at the film festival, when a media reporter interviewed Director Li Yi, he also asked this question. I remember he jokingly said: "I heard many people's different interpretations of this movie. Some people said that the whole thing is...
The fantasies in the clown's mind are not real. I hope everyone can have their own ideas and interpretations." I think Director Li Yi actually may not have a conclusive content when filming to determine which one is real.
Which one is an illusory imagination? Maybe his purpose is to let everyone discuss it.
However, it must be affirmed that this movie is not as simple as it seems and deserves further discussion. Some contents are clearly stated to be false in the film. There are also some contents that appear to be false in the film, but are also false.
There are other hints, and it seems that there is another turning point beyond the turning point.
So the first question is also the most discussed question during the film festival.
Are Thomas Wayne and former maid Petunia Arthur's biological parents?
It is mentioned in the film that his mother insisted that she was, and also said that she was forced by Thomas Wayne to sign a confidentiality agreement. Wayne never admitted it and lied that she was sick and adopted Arthur. Although Arthur did
He went to the psychiatric center to get his mother's report, which also said that he was adopted by his mother. But is that really the case? Everything looks more like Thomas Wayne arranged the report and told Arthur to go to that hospital.
Check.
Of course, some people may say, am I being too conspiratorial? But this is also a possibility, isn’t it?
In fact, it's not without evidence. Speaking of which, I hate the director with all my heart, but I can't help but admire him for this.
One important detail is that after he killed his mother, he found a photo of his mother when she was young, with the words "Your smile is beautiful, T.W." written on the back. These were the ambiguous words Thomas Wayne wrote to his mother.
If the report from the mental hospital is true, it would be redundant and unnecessary for this detail to be placed here. So I think that since this detail is included, it shows that maybe what his mother said is the truth.
We can't forget that Thomas Wayne is a powerful man. He can completely forge the doctor's certificate and the certificate of Arthur's adoption, and emphasize that Penny has mental illness. Who will everyone believe? Obviously they believe this
Rich and powerful people. Who would care about the life or death of a servant like Penny?
Just like Truman in "The Truman Show", what you know is just what the director behind the scenes wants you to know.
Is it the same thing?
But the problem is that no matter what the truth is, there is no way to prove it unless DNA is checked. With Thomas Wayne's status, he will not admit that he has an illegitimate child, especially when he is running for mayor.
We must be clear that Arthur's channels for obtaining information are really very few. He is just a commoner and the bottom of society.
So, he went to check if it was just what Wayne wanted him to see!
What’s the truth? We don’t know, but that doesn’t stop us from guessing.
First of all, there are many doubts about Penny.
I think a woman may not remember who she slept with, but she must know who her child is, because after ten months of pregnancy and years of raising her child, how could she not know who he is when she faces this child every day?
If you don’t believe it, ask your mother. This is something a woman will never mistake. Her mother has not yet reached this level of illness. In addition, this plot is precisely to show the cruelty and indifference of the rich class, which politicians refuse to admit for the sake of campaigning.
There are too many real examples of illegitimate children.
What's more, although his mother had mental problems, she kept emphasizing twice that Thomas Wayne refused to admit it, lied about adoption, and mentioned a confidentiality agreement. If she was just delusional, the film should not keep emphasizing these. A lunatic
How did you come up with such details in the confidentiality agreement? In addition, the subsequent photos seemed to imply that she did not lie, but Wayne was trying to cover up the truth. There is no need for the director to give you such a big burden and then tell you
Said: "I'm just teasing you!"
This chapter is not finished yet, please click on the next page to continue reading the exciting content! Penny does have delusions, but the question is, is her delusion too complete?
Is it too far-fetched to even imagine such a thing as a confidentiality agreement?
The purpose of arranging this series of forged hospital records may be to show the hypocrisy of the rich. A powerless person has no status at all in front of a powerful person and has no ability to argue for himself. The truth is just the truth from the mouth of the rich.
.And a kid from a rich family can be so ruthless in order to cover up his past.
Although this is indeed despairing, suffocating despair!
Secondly, can a person like Penny, who is so poor, really afford to adopt a child? Generally those who adopt children are wealthy people, since there is a document indicating that it is a formal adoption. Do you know that adoption requires investigation of the background and background of the adoptive parents?
What about the situation and follow-up? Their living situation is such that they would not be allowed to adopt a child.
Yes, some people will say that you can cheat on subsidies, but first you need to meet the conditions, right?
Moreover, if the abuse really happened, why is Arthur still by Petunia's side?
So why did the clown kill his mother? It wasn't because he thought his mother was lying, but because he saw in the medical records that he was abused by his stepfather when he was a child, and his mother stood by and stood by. In other words, he blamed his illness on his mother for not treating him well.
But if the mother didn't lie, it would be too scary and dark.
Moreover, the person who is truly delusional is actually Arthur, because Arthur fantasizes about himself and Sophie.
And the real reason that led to all this and his mother-killing was just that the rich Wayne wanted to cover up the previous scandal. How ironic, and even more ironic, if all this is true.
Then Arthur is Thomas Wayne's biological son, and in the end, the death of the Waynes was also because of Arthur, which is even more ironic!
The second question is, which ones are real and which ones are the clown’s imagination?
"Joker" involves many imaginary scenes.
So which ones are real?
Two clips that are definitely fantasy include: the relationship between the female neighbor Sophie and him. This video clearly shows that it is the clown's fantasy. He only met the female neighbor in the elevator, and then went on a date, kissed and went to see the female neighbor.
His performance and even going to the hospital with him were all his fantasy. When the film reviewed all this again, we saw that the female neighbor was not present. When he broke into the female neighbor's home, the female neighbor's reaction clearly showed that she
In fact, I wasn't familiar with him, so I was surprised why he broke in.
Another part of the fantasy occurred not long after the beginning of the film. When he and his mother were watching a reality show, he began to imagine that he appeared on the reality show and was called on stage by the host. This paragraph shows that he has always wanted to be in the spotlight.
The object is that he hopes to be on this show. And Arthur seems to be relatively young, which seems to mean that he has had such a fantasy a long time ago. This paragraph can be seen as a good wish in his heart, and he later realized it himself
When he met the host, he admitted that everything was just as he imagined.
But later, after he stopped taking medication, did a series of things that happened in the last 15-20 minutes of the film really happen?
Some people think that since he got into the refrigerator, everything else was just imagination...
Some people think that everything is actually a story told through his conversation with a psychotherapist. In fact, he has been locked in a mental hospital and has not come out. But I think the psychiatrist who appears at the end of the film is not the same person as the community psychiatrist in the front.
, it was not clearly shown that he was always in the hospital. It still felt like he was imprisoned at the end of the film for killing people.
Therefore, the more common understanding is that killing his mother, appearing on a talk show and killing the host, and killing his colleagues are all real. Because all of these were caused by killings caused by self-defense in the subway, which was an important change for him. The subway
That part is absolutely true, because the director himself interpreted it and believed that it was self-defense at the beginning, until Arthur chased the last person and shot him in the back. At that moment, he lost his mind. Later, he suffered from drug withdrawal and a series of stimulation.
, gradually evolved into a murderer.
But all the content in which he felt that he was infinitely worshiped, pursued and admired were false and just fantasies in his mind. This included the fact that in the end he was dragged out of the police car and worshiped by everyone. I think this paragraph may also be his
He was probably taken directly to a mental hospital by the police.
Just like the fantasy girlfriend and the talk show, in those two clips, others paid a lot of attention to him, which is exactly what he wanted. However, the reality is not like this. It is a bit cruel to say that in the film, he feels that he
The moments when he was a hero may have been his imagination. But the cold content that he was bullied, abandoned by his father, abused by his stepfather as a child, had his medical insurance taken away and stopped taking medication, and that he later committed murder are all true.
At the end, in the mental hospital, there were bloody footprints when he came out, but I personally think that he couldn't kill someone in the mental hospital. There should be security guards, and there was no weapon. Maybe it was his lust, and he felt that he could do whatever he wanted.
However, the most difficult thing to say is: whether the scene where the Waynes were killed is true or false. I thought it was true at first, because it is unlikely that the Joker could have imagined such an ending. If it was his own fantasy, he would probably kill it with his own hands.
The reason why director Thomas Wayne filmed the death according to what we know is to echo the original comic book and restore this tragedy. It is indeed possible that various riots led to the shooting.
However, it is a bit incomprehensible to think that this family actually went to the theater on such a chaotic night. Generally, if there is a riot, such an important person should stay at home, not to mention, there are no bodyguards
It's also strange. From this point of view, it feels like fantasy.
This is a very magical movie, and it is also a very good movie. Of course, it is also a movie destined to be full of controversy.
In fact, the Venice Film Festival has contacted the local police station and has strengthened security several times during the festival.
There is another saying that everything is just a product of Arthur's spiritual fantasy.
Including the story of the entire movie "Joker", because the final ending is that Arthur appears in a mental hospital, so this can be interpreted as everything is just a mental fantasy.
Um, does Director Li Yi also feel that the story he came up with is actually a bit crazy?
Some people say that Arthur and the Joker are actually just two personalities, and in the end Arthur's personality was replaced by the Joker's personality as the main personality.
Why do you say that?
We can think of it as Arthur's illness, which makes him laugh unconsciously. This is actually his other personality, the clown, fighting for control of his body.
So does everything make sense?
Every time he gets sick, it's actually just another personality causing trouble.
Because there were always drugs suppressing the clown's personality, Arthur was the one taking the lead, but then he stopped taking the drugs, so the clown's personality took control!"
