Hong Chengchou hesitated for a moment, and then said: "As for the mid-term countermeasures, they are actually temporary. Even if they are done well, they cannot be compared with the national power of the Ming Dynasty, and are still much inferior. Therefore, I think,
If you want to truly fight against the Ming Dynasty, you don’t need to go further!”
"Are you considering the Mongolian tribe?" Dorgon asked casually after hearing this.
Hong Chengchou listened, nodded, and then shook his head slightly and said: "Yes, and no. The Mongolian tribes are not engaged in production, only herding, and they live entirely on the face of God. The Koreans are farming. As long as there is enough land, there is no need to feed them.
The problem is, the slave thinks that if we, the Qing Dynasty, have enough supplies, we can annex the Mongolian tribes as a sword; if we, the Qing Dynasty, don’t have enough supplies, annexing the Mongolian tribes will only increase the burden on the Qing Dynasty!"
Dorgon listened, nodded thoughtfully, and then asked curiously: "How do you think you can go further?"
After hearing this, Hong Chengchou said solemnly with a serious expression: "I have thought about it, as far as the Qing Dynasty is concerned, there is North Korea on one side and the Mongolian tribe on the other. There is not enough help to help the Qing Dynasty share the pressure. But, again,
There are some places farther away. If we can unite them and implement the strategy of Shu and Wu to resist Wei, that would be the best strategy!"
At least in the foreseeable future, for a long period of time, the national power of the Qing Dynasty will definitely not be comparable to that of the Ming Dynasty. Dorgon knew this well, and at this time he heard that Hong Chengchou said that there was a strategy for Shu and Wu to resist Wei
, couldn’t help but said in surprise: “Where are the countries around the Qing Dynasty that are worth uniting with?”
Upon hearing this, Hong Chengchou pointed in the direction, and then replied: "Just about thirty years ago, the Ming Dynasty fought a war with the other side in Korea. According to the information investigated by the slaves, the battle that year actually had no winner.
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As soon as he heard this, Dorgon knew it immediately, and asked a little surprised: "Japanese country?"
"Yes, it is the Japanese country!" Hong Chengchou nodded after hearing this, "The Japanese king who was in power died of illness, and the Japanese army withdrew from Korea. If the Qing Dynasty could persuade the Japanese country to join the alliance with the Qing Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty would
It is even more difficult to destroy the Qing Dynasty. Once the Ming emperor's militaristic policy has been implemented for too long, based on the slave's understanding of the Ming court, the new emperor will inevitably ascend the throne and change his militaristic policy. Wait until
At that time, the Qing Dynasty can develop calmly, or wait for the civil strife in the Ming Dynasty!"
Having said this, he complimented again: "Your Highness is in great prosperity during the Spring and Autumn Period. If you vigorously implement this policy, I will think that the Qing Dynasty will be safe!"
After Dorgon heard this, he did not show any joy, but frowned, thinking about this, and said slowly: "The battle between the Japanese and the Ming Dynasty weakened the power of the Ming Dynasty in Liaodong, and then there was
The Qing Dynasty has risen. However, so many years have passed since then, and there has been no movement from the Japanese country. Can the Japanese country join forces with the Qing Dynasty to fight against the Ming Dynasty again? "
Hong Chengchou admired Dorgon a little in his heart. He was not blind. He had his own opinions and could think. He was a qualified king.
With this in mind, he replied seriously: "As far as I know, after the Japanese king died of illness, civil strife broke out in the Japanese country, and then a powerful minister usurped the throne and took over the throne of the Japanese king. Although, so far, the Japanese country has
There is no movement at all, but I believe that as long as we understand with reason and move with emotion, it is still possible to persuade the Japanese!"
"Oh, how do you say it?" Dorgon's heart moved when he heard this, and he asked quickly.
Hong Chengchou immediately replied: "I think about it, the Japanese country is an island country. It is said that there are many tsunamis and there are earth dragons turning over. As long as they are promising monarchs or far-sighted ministers, etc., they must want to change the Japanese country.
This fact is limited to the island country. It is also true that they only thought of attacking the Ming Dynasty through North Korea. If our Qing Dynasty agrees to give up North Korea to the Japanese country, so that the Japanese country has a foothold on land, it will be decided to divide the country together.
The alliance between the two countries and letting the Japanese country see this hope makes me think that the Japanese country may still send troops!"
Dorgon was greatly moved when he heard this, and showed great interest, and immediately asked: "Sir, can you please tell me about the situation in Japan?"
"According to the decree!" Hong Chengchou was not used to using "cha" after hearing this, but Dorgon didn't care either.
Just listen to Hong Chengchou saying to Dorgon: "It is said that the Japanese country was founded by Xu Fu, a man sent overseas by Qin Shihuang to seek immortality, with three thousand boys and girls. It multiplied and became a big country. During the Tang Dynasty, it had frequent exchanges with the Central Plains and brought back many things.
Useful things have made the Japanese country gradually stronger and its population more and more. The barren and dangerous land of the Japanese country will inevitably curb the growth of the Japanese population. As long as there are knowledgeable people in the Japanese country, they will definitely yearn for the mainland.
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After a pause, he continued his analysis to Dorgon: "The Japanese country is an island country, so it is good at naval warfare; in addition, judging from the wars during the Wanli period, the Japanese people are best at muskets. And these two things happen to be our Qing Dynasty's
Shortcomings. Therefore, I believe that if the Qing Dynasty and the Japanese country unite, they can learn from each other's strengths and offset their weaknesses, and it will not be a problem to compete with the Ming Dynasty!"
In terms of knowledge, even if Dorgon was the regent of Jianlu and was considered a powerful figure among Jianlu, he could not match Hong Chengchou's knowledge.
At this time, Hong Chengchou's explanation opened Dorgon's horizons even more, and it suddenly rose to a broader level, which made him very happy.
After carefully considering Hong Chengchou's words, Dorgon couldn't help but said with joy: "If this is really the case, then the Qing Dynasty will not be locked out of Shanhaiguan. There are Japanese navy and muskets, landing from Denglai and killing a Ming Dynasty person."
It would be easy to be caught off guard and the war spread to the south of the Yangtze River in the Ming Dynasty!"
"What your Highness said is absolutely true!" After hearing this, Hong Chengchou hurriedly flattered, and then continued, "During the Jiajing period, Japanese pirates invaded the coast of the Ming Dynasty. They caused a huge commotion at the beginning. These were just scattered Japanese pirates, and the Ming Dynasty also had
An unprecedented Qi Jiguang was born. Now, once the Qing Dynasty unites with the Japanese, the situation will only be better than before!"
Dorgon was filled with joy when he heard this and said happily: "In this case, it is not a problem to give up Korea to the Japanese country. Even if we can unite to seize the Central Plains, our Qing Dynasty only needs to be north of the Yellow River. Jiangnan and other places
, can be ceded to Japan. In your opinion, sir, is it possible for Japan to agree to form an alliance?"
His thoughts at this time were actually more about protecting Liaodong and protecting the Qing Dynasty from being destroyed by the Ming Dynasty. Therefore, it would be a surprise if he could unite with the Japanese country and capture the Ming Dynasty north of the Yellow River.
However, there is no guarantee that if it goes as smoothly as their plan, after he gets the north of the Yellow River, he will think about the south of the Yellow River.
Of course, these are still nonsense. Talking out empty words first and tempting the Japanese to form an alliance is the top priority.
When Hong Chengchou heard that Dorgon agreed with his long-term strategy, he was not very happy, but said seriously: "Your Highness, this is the plan of the slave. But there is one thing. The slave has no idea about the current situation and details of the Japanese country.
I understand, but there is no guarantee that the Japanese country will definitely form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty!"
After Dorgon heard this, he immediately calmed down.
He understood Hong Chengchou's worries. After all, so many years had passed since the war between the Japanese and Ming Dynasties. The promising Japanese king had also died of illness and was usurped from the throne. It was hard to say what was going on now!
Thinking this, he frowned and lowered his head in thought.
When Hong Chengchou saw him, he didn't dare to disturb him, so he could only wait quietly.
As for Turg, he had no say in these matters at all, so he could only be a bystander.
Dorgon thought about what Hong Chengchou said about the short-term, mid-term and long-term strategies, and then thought about the internal news brought back by Turge, and felt a lot of pressure.
After a long time, he raised his head, looked at Hong Chengchou, and said sincerely: "If the Qing Dynasty wants to be invincible, it is best to unite with the Japanese country. But it is not easy to unite with the Japanese country.
.In addition, the journey is far away. If we go to communicate and unite, it would be best for me to go. However, I cannot leave Liaodong. In my opinion, if I appoint Prince Li to go there, I will follow you and adapt to changes.
Are you sure you can persuade the Japanese country?"
Obviously, Dorgon should have made up his mind.
After hearing this, Hong Chengchou hesitated for a while and then replied: "Your Highness, I have no understanding of the current Japanese state. However, the alliance is nothing more than coercion and inducement. For the future of the Qing Dynasty, I am willing to give it a try."
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Not only for the future of the Qing Dynasty, but also for his own future. If the Qing Dynasty is destroyed, he will be cut to pieces by the Ming Dynasty. He will have no place to escape, so he can only fight to the death.
Dorgon saw that Hong Chengchou had no promise, and he understood it in his heart. Moreover, because of Hong Chengchou's pragmatism, he felt that he was doing things safely.
Therefore, after thinking for a while, he said to Hong Chengchou: "The matter will be decided after I, Prince Li and others have discussed it!"
Even if he is not the regent now, but the real emperor of the Qing Dynasty, he cannot make arbitrary decisions on such a major matter by himself.
Hong Chengchou understood this very well and would not say anything or dare not say anything.
Later, putting aside the discussion at the strategic level, Dorgon discussed specific tactical matters with Hong Chengchou. Naturally, Hong Chengchou knew everything and talked about it.
I don't know when Daishan has come back, and the two of them haven't finished discussing it yet.
It was not until evening that the discussion between Dorgon and Hong Chengchou came to an end. Then, Dorgon diligently told Hong Chengchou to go back and take good rest, take care of himself, and send Hong Chengchou away in person as Liu Bei did to Zhuge Liang.
After he returned to Chongzheng Hall, Daishan asked with a little curiosity: "What good idea does he have?"
He felt this from Dorgon's attitude towards Hong Chengchou.