However, Emperor Chongzhen was still settling accounts at the end of the year and had no time to deal with these Dutch prisoners, so he asked the Ministry of Punishment to interrogate the Dutch prisoners first.
Generally speaking, interrogating prisoners is not an easy task, because no one will bow his head and confess his crime so easily. He has to use various methods such as torture to make a confession.
However, what Emperor Chongzhen didn't expect was that just the next day, the Minister of Punishment went to report again, so the interrogation came to fruition.
Emperor Chongzhen was a little surprised by this, so he first read the memorial on the results of the interrogation.
The Minister of Punishment probably saw Emperor Chongzhen's surprise, so he reported below: "Your Majesty, these Dutch people are considered desperate. They said they are willing to plead guilty, but beg not to kill them, and to be allowed to live in the Ming Dynasty after serving their sentences; and others, say
As long as we can do business with Ming Dynasty, we can let them do anything."
When he said this, his tone was proud. As the chief judge, he could clearly feel that the power and prosperity of the Ming Dynasty deeply shocked these foreigners!
"They admitted that they had plundered the coast of Fujian, but this was done by the Dutch before." The Minister of Punishment continued, "These Dutch people were defeated by General Zheng Zhilong in the early years, and they did not invade the coast of the Ming Dynasty again.
Just doing Japanese business."
"As for Jianlu, they only admit that they are doing business!" At this point, the Minister of Punishment said in a slightly dissatisfied tone, "These Dutch people also slandered General Zheng, saying that he also colluded with Jianlu.
They once saw General Zheng at Zhenjiang Fort, and Jianlu’s generals were very respectful to General Zheng, saying that General Zheng was also doing business with Jianlu!”
"General Zheng was a pirate in the past, and doing business with the Japanese country was not a surprise. But if General Zheng did business with Jianlu when he was the chief soldier of the Denglai Navy, Wei Chen would not believe it.
Give those Dutch prisoners a good beating!"
After hearing this, Emperor Chongzhen probably finished reading the results of the interrogation, raised his head and said, "There is indeed such a thing!"
"..." When the Minister of Punishment heard this, he was immediately surprised. The Zheng family, which was highly valued by the court, colluded with Jianlu just for a mere piece of money?
When he thought of this, he couldn't help but became furious, and wanted to tell the emperor that he must severely punish the Zheng family, but he heard Emperor Chongzhen say calmly: "But he went according to my order!"
"..." Upon hearing this, the Minister of Punishment was suddenly surprised again, so much so that he had to swallow the words as soon as they came to his lips.
What is going on? Did the emperor ask Zheng Zhilong to do business with Jianlu?
The emperor's companion?
This is absolutely impossible!
But why did the emperor do this?
Perhaps Emperor Chongzhen saw the confusion of his minister, so he explained calmly: "Zheng Zhilong followed my will and secretly formed an alliance with them. It is a secret move by me, which will be of great use in the future!"
After hearing this, the Minister of the Ministry of Punishment realized that this was what happened. He couldn't help but admire the emperor very much. He quietly laid a big killing move waiting for Jianlu and the Japanese country. It was really powerful!
So, he quickly said with admiration: "Your Majesty has taken precautions and planned everything. I really admire you!"
When Emperor Chongzhen heard this, he smiled lightly and felt very pleased. He immediately ordered: "This matter must be kept secret and must not be leaked to anyone!"
"Wei Chen understands!" The Minister of the Ministry of Justice heard this and quickly replied, "Wei Chen obeys the order!"
At this time, he finally understood the reason why the court did not treat Dongfanjie with great dignity after he reported to the capital, because it involved the Zheng family.
Then, he reported to Emperor Chongzhen: "Your Majesty, these Dutch people say that they are very friendly to us Ming people. In Batavia, they all treat us Ming people well. I cannot confirm the truth of this."
Fake!"
It stands to reason that in the early years, they plundered the Ming people on the coast like the Jianlu did and went to Batavia. They must have enslaved the Ming people like the Jianlu did. But they said in unison that they did not abuse the Ming people, but treated them kindly.
Ming people, this made the Minister of Punishment a little disbelieving and even used punishment, but they did not change their words.
As for the coolies on the Dongfan side, they thought they were the natives of Dongfan. At least before the Ming Dynasty declared Dongfan the Ming Dynasty, they did not think they were Ming people. Therefore, they did not admit that abusing the Dongfan coolies was abusing Ming people.
In response to this, Emperor Chongzhen said calmly: "This matter is simple. I will know the truth or falsehood of what they say in a moment!"
After hearing this, the Minister of Punishment knew that the emperor could contact the immortal world. Emperor Taizu could calculate it in one go, right?
What he thought was not wrong. After he retreated, Emperor Chongzhen took out his mobile phone and directly videotaped Liu Weichao to ask about the situation of Mingren in Batavia.
He really didn't know anything about this situation before.
Liu Weichao heard the question, checked the information, and then said to Emperor Chongzhen: "There was also a massacre of Chinese people in Batavia, but it happened in the early years of Qianlong, and it was known as the Hongxi Massacre in history!"
After mentioning this, he continued in some detail: "The Batavia massacre lasted for seven days. Nearly 10,000 Chinese in the city were killed, and only 150 escaped by chance. The Chinese outside the city continued to fight against them and persisted.
It lasted for three years. In the end, the Dutch colonists were afraid of the Manchus' revenge, so they arrested the governor Valgennier who ordered the massacre at the time, and died in prison. They also tightly sealed the news of the massacre, but in the end the news still reached
Fujian. Guess what happened?"
"What's the matter?" Emperor Chongzhen was still a little curious after hearing this, so he asked casually.
Liu Weichao continued to look at the information and read: "Fuzhou General Celeng and Fuzhou Governor Wang Shu jointly entered the memorial. They described the case in more detail. They believed that overseas Chinese were criminals of the imperial court and were not as good as others. They suffered such a disaster because of their evil deeds."
It was a self-inflicted crime that had nothing to do with the imperial court, so there was no need to seriously investigate the murderer. This fallacy became the basis for the Qing Dynasty's handling of the case, and in the end the atrocities of the Dutch colonists were not condemned or investigated."
At this point, after a pause, he said a little sarcastically: "Historians also say that the Qing Dynasty's national power reached its peak during the Qianlong period. That's it, haha! But in the eyes of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, the lives of the Han people are not fate.
Bar!"
When Emperor Chongzhen heard this, he also showed a look of disdain, but then his face immediately turned a little ugly. Because he remembered the Spaniards' Luzon Massacre. If he was excusable that time,
How different was the handling of his grandfather, Emperor Wanli, from that of the Manchu emperor?
Liu Weichao did not notice, but continued to look at the information and said: "But in Batavia, in the early days, the Dutch did not really love their people as their own children, but they treated the Ming people there fairly well.
Because Ming people are hard-working and are the best workers. They set up Kapitan and let Ming people manage themselves. And after many years of work, Ming people want to return to Ming Dynasty, they also allow them."
Emperor Chongzhen was a little disbelieving. Isn't this too different from how the Spaniards treated Ming people?
So, he asked his doubts: "Why are the attitudes of the Dutch and Spanish towards Ming people so different? Why did the Dutch kill Ming people in the end?"
Liu Weichao listened, read the information for a while, and answered him: "This is actually related to interests. In these years, the Dutch have monopolized the pepper in Nanyang and other commerce in Nanyang, so they want to By building Batavia as a Nanyang stronghold as quickly as possible, they treated the most useful Ming people well. But later, their monopoly business was divided by other Western barbarians. Their new profit point turned to exploiting the local people. Planting, but the Ming people had no land, and the population was increasing day by day, which began to conflict with the interests of the Dutch. So the Dutch changed their attitude towards the Ming people, and eventually massacred the Ming people in Batavia."
When Emperor Chongzhen heard this, he nodded again. Everything was for profit, and this was reasonable. It was not that the Dutch were kinder than the Spanish, which did not exist.
After thinking for a while, he asked Liu Weichao: "Now those Dutch prisoners have been escorted to the capital. According to people, they accepted the punishment and just wanted to save their lives. In the future, they either want to stay in the Ming Dynasty or do business with the Ming Dynasty. What do you think should be done with them?"
After hearing this, Liu Weichao thought for a moment and said: "For now, although the Dutch colonized the world, they also wanted to colonize the Ming Dynasty, but they were beaten back by the Ming Dynasty. They have not yet massacred the Ming people like the Spaniards. For them, seeking wealth It’s nature. You have begun to industrialize, and the products you produce will eventually be dumped all over the world. In this way, there are two ways."
"First, let Ming merchants go to sea to sell; second, let Xiyi come to Ming to sell." Liu Weichao analyzed this and expressed his suggestion, "In my opinion, I suggest that you can do it at close range now. Next, let Ming merchants sell it; and for now, let Xiyi sell it in places that are still too far away. This is the most cost-effective way."
After a pause, he added: "If there is only one Western barbarian, such as the Portuguese who currently have the best relationship with the Ming Dynasty, I don't think it is enough. At least two or more companies must compete, which is most beneficial to the Ming Dynasty. Therefore, the Netherlands Bian, I think you can give them a beating and make them serve the Ming Dynasty. For example, if they want to obtain trade rights, they must obey the Ming Dynasty's call and listen to the Ming Dynasty's words just like the Portuguese did! As for the specifics, you can You can do it according to the actual situation.”
Emperor Chongzhen was very happy after hearing this, and nodded and said: "Then let me think about it again, how to use this Dutchman?"
Liu Wei supernaturally had no objection to this. Afterwards, Emperor Chongzhen hung up the video communication. After thinking for a while, he summoned Sun Chuanting, the deputy minister of the cabinet, to discuss it alone.