Chapter 1193 Except for the box office, everything is scum
"Five hundred times of looking back in the past life are exchanged for one passing by in this life. This is the romance of poets, but many poets don't know that poets must first live in reality and torture themselves half to death. This is
Even if you become a famous poet, it doesn't mean anything."
Ye Ming did not hesitate to evaluate the behavior of several poets, thinking that this matter was not worth it.
Li Lianjie immediately said: "Is there any poet who has both fame and fortune? Anyway, he is happy in his life and creation."
Ye Ming pondered for a while and said: "Chinese metrical poetry can do this, for example, Li Bai, Du Fu, Bai Juyi and so on. The most miserable Li Bai was at least the president of the Tang Writers Association, Du Fu, Bai Juyi, Su Dongpo and so on.
Cao Cao is even more arrogant."
Li Lianjie immediately shrugged and said, "Just pretend I didn't say anything about this. It's easier to talk about Chinese movies. What do you think about this?"
Ye Ming immediately said: "Everyone thinks that there is a gap between Chinese movies and Hollywood. This is a fact, but it does not mean that some people in China think that the gap is so big that it is impossible to catch up.
This is wrong. We have gaps, but Hollywood also has areas where it is inferior to us, such as our humanistic sentiments and our spiritual realm. This is the difference between Hollywood movies and Chinese movies.
Our movies are metrical poems. Chinese movies always try to take into account both the market and reviews, but Hollywood movies are based on modern poetry. The mainstream of Hollywood box office is to increase the box office first."
Zhang Ziyi said at the side: "Hollywood also has some independent films with humanistic sentiments and so on. They may be terrible at the box office, but they are indeed very thoughtful and the reviews are quite high."
Ming nodded and said: "Yes, there are such movies in Hollywood, but I am talking about the mainstream. The mainstream of Hollywood is American values. Making money comes first, and the rest are on the sidelines. But our Chinese movies, now
To this extent, even a few years ago our movies were underwritten, which is not development at all.
Although it has been liberalized now, directors say that I make movies for the sake of box office, which is almost non-existent. Maybe Feng Xiaogang and Director Feng are one, but he has never dared to say this, even though he does it this way.
This hero directed by Zhang should be aiming for this goal, right?" Zhang Yimou said awkwardly: "This blockbuster was formulated by the higher-ups, and I am just an executor."
In the beginning, Zhang Yimou actually had no intention of accepting it, but later someone said, if you don’t accept it, if someone else does, the filming location may be worse. This sentence touched Zhang Yimou, so he wrote this essay.
Ye Ming nodded seriously and said: "That's right, it was decided by the above, because the leaders above also realized that what kind of reform of Chinese movies is good, naturally they said that the box office should be increased first, and the audience should be first
I am happy to see it. The most important thing is to make the audience willing to go back to the cinema to watch the movie. It is like saying that for a place like Hollywood, I need to increase the box office first before talking about anything else. This is
It is commendable, after all, it means that we have begun to take the first step towards the marketization of movies.
A movie first attracts the audience to the theater, and then talks about the artist. Without these comments from critics, a movie without an audience cannot be said to be a successful movie, even if the critics praise it.
It's like saying that Hollywood has already brought the audience to the cinema. At this time, Hollywood occasionally releases one or two art films, and under the name of Hollywood, even if the box office is not good, it will not lose much.
This is the importance of the market. You always have to have a market and an audience first, and then you can shoot any artistic films or cool films. Otherwise, you will starve to death sooner or later. It is like saying that a poet is the same. You can be arrogant, but not
You can be gregarious, you can be high-minded, but please remember, first you survive, first you become a good person, and then you become a poet. This is the perfect realm of life. Movie poets are actually the same.
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At this time, Zhang Yimou looked at Ye Ming with a smile and said: "I didn't expect that once you go to Hollywood, your horizons will be broadened so much. If these comments were made in China, they would definitely make those old guys dumbfounded.
Then many people will accuse you."
Ye Ming shrugged his shoulders and said with a look of disapproval: "I'm not afraid to say this. Others think this is what I said, but this is not what I said. These opinions of the domestic film market are Coppola's.
, I met Director Coppola some time ago, and we talked about something like this when we were drinking together. He believed that movies should first make a profit at the box office, and then talk about art, otherwise it would be nonsense."
Zhang Yimou pondered for a while and said: "Coppola, Francis, Ford, Coppola, one of the four legendary directors in Hollywood and the director of the Godfather trilogy, it seems that [Apocalypse Now] did quite a lot of harm to Coppola.
It’s so big that a great director like him thinks that box office is the most important thing. I thought that a director like Coppola thinks that art is the most important thing.”
Ye Ming laughed and said: "Well, that's right. In fact, Director Coppola also believed that art is the most important thing at the beginning. He even thought this way before [Apocalypse Now]. He told him personally
Let me tell you, in fact, when he was filming The Godfather, he was not willing to take it at all. It was a gangster movie, what the hell, it had no artistic quality at all, but in the end he still took it.
It wasn't until [Apocalypse Now] nearly bankrupted him and ruined his reputation that he realized that a movie's box office is the most important thing."
Coppola's original words were that the movie was actually a bastard in everything except box office. This was Coppola's complaint when he vented his inner dissatisfaction.
Coppola was full of joy and ambition to shoot "Apocalypse Now" but it failed. The lesson of the fiasco was very profound. This was actually different from his original movie ideal. Therefore, in such a situation,
Only then will he think that any data other than the box office is a bastard.
This is actually more suitable for the current situation of Chinese movies. Don't talk about art, don't talk about messy things. At this time, let's talk about the box office first. If the box office fails, the rest will be bastards. This is not a rough statement. Ke
It can be said that Pola hit the nail on the head and pointed out the existence of the current situation of Chinese films. At this time, he directly stated the crux of Chinese films.
Zhang Yimou nodded and said: "So it was Coppola who said it. This is right. Even if the Chinese side knew about it, no one would dare to say anything against it. This is the current situation of Chinese movies. They worship Hollywood and always
I think everything in Hollywood is good and everything in us is bad. Knowing that it was Coppola who said it, no one is qualified to judge him."
This is also true. He is one of the four legendary directors in Hollywood. Among other things, even the immortal legend The Godfather can make many filmmakers look up to him, not to mention the Godfather trilogy and Modern Apocalypse.
Recording such a classic. Coppola can defeat most of the film practitioners in the country. Therefore, those critics and experts call him beast. Naturally, no one dares to say that Coppola is not good. This is his qualification.
The problem is, you can laugh at the box office failure of Coppola's Apocalypse Now, but you can't say that his insights into art and movies are not profound enough.
Therefore, Zhang Yimou believes that there are no critics in China who are qualified to evaluate Coppola. This is also a strange situation in the country. Anyway, everything in Hollywood is good. This is actually what makes Zhang Yimou sad. He admires foreign things.
It's so flattering. If filmmakers have this kind of mentality at this time, how can they play with Hollywood? There's no need to mention catching up with Hollywood.
Ye Ming did not continue this heavy topic. This cannot be solved by just a few people. This is a problem that requires long-term persistence. Anyway, in such a situation, they just complained.
At this moment, Ye Ming changed the subject and said: "Director Zhang, now that you have come to the United States, haven't the domestic reporters said that you are not doing your job properly, that you are not filming movies, and that you came to the United States to travel?"
Naturally, reporters have to talk about how to attract people, especially entertainment reporters. They have no moral integrity at all, especially those reporters from Hong Kong and Taiwan. They just don’t talk about how to attract people. Zhang Yimou actually understands this.
What kind of reporters are Ye Ming talking about? Those reporters in China have some integrity, but those in Hong Kong City and Baodao may not give Zhang Yimou face.
Coupled with the presence of a big shot like Li Lianjie, it is not wrong to say that every move of the hero can attract the attention of many people.
Therefore, when asked about such a question, Zhang Yimou snorted and said with some displeasure: "Those people, no matter what they do, now we are invited by the Golden Globe Awards to attend the Golden Globe Awards."
Ye Ming was stunned for a moment, and then said: "The Golden Globe Awards, Heroes are not being released, are you attending the Golden Globe Awards at this time?"
Only movies that have been released can participate in the Golden Globe Awards. Those that have not been successfully filmed will naturally not be eligible to participate.
This is also what makes Ye Ming strange. In fact, when he heard that Zhang Yimou was coming, he wondered why Zhang Yimou came to the United States when he was not at home to film heroes. Zhang Yimou glanced at Ye Ming and said, "You are in the United States, don't you?"
Do you know about the reform of the Golden Globe Awards?”
Ye Ming shook his head and said: "I have been busy filming the day after tomorrow these days. I don't have much time to go out and play. Not long ago, I was shooting outdoor scenes in Duluth, Wulian Lake. Therefore, I don't care about some news from the outside world.
How do you understand it?"
Zhang Yimou suddenly realized and said: "I see. The answer to this matter is actually very simple. It is because the Golden Globe Awards in Hollywood need to be reformed. The Golden Globe Awards are usually held before the Oscars.
You should find a time to start in a few days, you should know this, right?"
Ye Ming naturally knows this news. The Golden Globe Awards are quite interesting. They are known as the benchmark for Oscars in the entertainment industry.
In fact, it is very interesting to talk about the Golden Globe Awards and the Oscars. The Golden Globe Awards are actually awards for journalists. They were first judged by a group of journalists at a gathering. Later, it is not easy to be the second most popular award winner in Hollywood.
Generally speaking, those who can win at the Golden Globe Awards will almost always win at the Oscars. Therefore, the Golden Globe Awards are known as the Oscar bellwether.
But there are times when there are conflicts between these two awards. In 2013, the Academy Awards actually announced the nomination list in advance. This is not in line with the unspoken rules of Hollywood. Normally, the Golden Globe Awards are held first to show off, and then the Oscars are released.
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This time, the Oscars announced the nomination list in advance, which made the Golden Globes very unhappy. If you don't give me a step, I won't give you face. Directly, Ben Affleck, the director of "Escape from Tehran" who was not nominated for an Oscar, won the best award.
director.
You know, at the Golden Globe Awards, Spielberg and Ang Lee were also nominated for Best Director. This is the Golden Globe's shameless face of winning an Oscar.
At that time, Spielberg's work was "Lincoln", while Ang Lee's was the more powerful "Pi". Anyway, this was an award where the Golden Globes beat the Oscars.
Of course, this is what happened later. The reform of the Golden Globe Awards is just the beginning. Ye Ming thought for a moment and said: "Has the Golden Globe Awards been reformed? I seem to have heard someone say it on the set, did it start in February?
It’s this attitude of moving it to January, staggering the Oscars, and not being the second best in the world.”
When filming The Day After Tomorrow, Ye Ming had indeed heard about this matter, but he didn't take it to heart. After all, in such a situation, at this time, filming was all he had, and a good
Actors need to be fully focused when filming. In Hollywood, Japan and South Korea, there is no such thing as an actor being distracted from the scene. This is a sign of professionalism.
Zhang Yimou nodded and said: "It's just that kind of thing. This time we have really made reforms. We want to move the Golden Globe Awards to January. This is a huge change, so we invited some colleagues and said they were here for exchanges."
, we were invited over.
This time, we didn’t participate. Even if we did, it would be for next year’s Golden Globe Awards. This time, we came here to communicate with other colleagues. Of course, we also promoted our movie. This time, we wanted to make the hero
To enter the Hollywood market, the country is very supportive of such a thing, otherwise it would not be possible to come here at this time."
After all, this is a proposition composition. If it means that the box office is too poor, then it makes the people above it look bad.
Therefore, at this time, how to increase the box office of the hero is the top priority. Zhang Yimou came to the Hollywood Golden Globe Awards to promote, in fact, it is for the box office. This is very similar to what Coppola said