Chapter 589 Goro Mashima is really annoying, I really want to meet Lord Ogata! 【4600】
"His Majesty." His face changed drastically, and he frowned slightly, "All swordsmanship should be eliminated - what does this mean?"
The old man sitting next to Isshiki, his grandfather Naoshu, was also frowning at this time.
"I'm just telling the truth." Ogata said calmly, "Compared with other tools, swords have a very obvious difference - swords have no other use except killing people."
"Axes can be used to cut down trees. Bows, arrows and spears can be used for hunting."
"But the sword has no other use except killing people."
"Tools like swords were invented from the beginning to kill people."
"Swordsmanship is a skill designed to kill people more easily with a sword."
"The sword is a killing weapon, and swordsmanship is the art of killing."
"Since you just said that swordsmanship that focuses on physical training is the 'real sword', it means that you also believe that swordsmanship should focus on practicality."
"So, you should agree with what I just said, right?"
Isshiki was silent for a while before gently nodding: "...Yes. I agree with what you just said. Swords are indeed killing weapons, and swordsmanship is a skill designed to kill people more conveniently."
"Hundreds of years ago, swords and swordsmanship, which existed in the world as murder weapons and killing techniques, indeed had an irreplaceable and important position." Ogata continued, "But times have changed now."
"You should know the famous 'Battle of Changsha' that happened more than 200 years ago, right?"
"Of course I know." Isshiki responded.
"Now that you know about this battle, you must also know what the final result of that battle was - the famous Takeda army was defeated miserably by Oda Nobunaga's iron artillery troops."
During the Edo period, anyone who had received a little bit of historical education knew about the Battle of Nagasaki - a very famous battle in the Warring States Period more than 200 years ago: a strategic decisive battle between the Oda family and the Takeda family.
Ogata inherited all the memories of "Ogata Hara". As a samurai who successfully completed all basic education, "Ogata Hara" naturally also has various knowledge about the Battle of Changbi in his memory.
The Takeda family was one of the most powerful princes in the Warring States Period more than 200 years ago. They were famous for their military force. The Takeda Legion was known as the "Strongest Legion" and the Takeda Family's cavalry was known as "the best in the world."
Cavalry".
But in the Battle of Nagasaki, the head of the Oda family: Oda Nobunaga gathered more than 3,000 matchlocks and used alternate shooting to defeat the prestigious "Strongest Legion". Takeda's famous
The cavalry was nearly wiped out by fire from matchlock guns. After this battle, the Takeda family completely declined and was completely annexed by Oda Nobunaga 7 years later.
"...So, are you saying that the emergence of iron cannons has rendered swordsmanship useless?"
Having said this, Isshiki paused for a moment, then let out a disdainful sneer.
"Huh, I thought you were going to say something lofty. But what I ended up saying was these corny remarks."
"How can an iron cannon replace a sword?"
"In the Battle of Nagasaki, a very important part of the reason why the Takeda family suffered such a disastrous defeat was because the commander of the Takeda Army at that time was a fool. It would not only be possible to replace a better commander to command this battle, but
He will not be defeated, and he may even defeat Oda Nobunaga."
"I can't even finish talking about the shortcomings of iron cannons over a cup of tea."
"First of all - the rate of fire of the iron cannon is extremely slow, and reloading the ammunition is extremely troublesome."
"No matter how skilled the gunner is, it will take him at least 10 breaths to reload the ammunition after firing a round."
"Secondly - the accuracy of the iron cannon is still extremely low. Unless you are a very talented marksman, if you use an iron cannon to shoot a target five blocks (about 9 meters) away, whether you can hit it or not depends entirely on luck."
"Secondly - there are many restrictions on the use of iron cannons. It cannot be used in rainy days, it cannot be used in snowy days, and it cannot be used in wet places..."
"Of course, I don't deny the power of iron cannons, nor do I deny that iron cannons can play a very important role in some places."
"But you said that iron cannons can replace swords - this really makes me disagree."
At this time, Isshiki's face was no longer as excited as before, and he only looked at Ogata with a dull and indifferent look.
Ogata had been listening quietly to what Isshiki had just said.
After Isshiki finished speaking, Ogata smiled slightly:
"You're right."
"Iron cannons still have quite a lot of flaws to this day."
"But - iron cannons are extremely precise instruments."
"One of the characteristics of extremely precision instruments is that there is no upper limit to their 'progress'."
"It is true that iron cannons still have quite a lot of flaws, but have you ever thought about what the iron cannons will look like in 50 or 100 years?"
"Unlike Japan, the Nanman people attach great importance to the development of iron cannons."
"They continue to improve iron cannons. To this day, the Nanman people have invented many extremely powerful iron cannons."
"Not only has the range been greatly extended, but the shooting accuracy has also been greatly improved."
"Given time, the iron cannon will definitely be improved more and more powerfully, with fewer and fewer defects."
"In 50 years or 100 years, it is not impossible that there will be an iron cannon that can hit a target 50 meters away (about 90 meters), or an iron cannon that can fire 100 rounds of projectiles in one breath."
"As for swords and swordsmanship..."
"There is almost no room for 'progress' in weapons like swords. At most, some new sword-making techniques will appear to make swords sharper and harder."
"As for swordsmanship... people use swordsmanship. Therefore, a person's physical ability determines the upper limit of swordsmanship."
"And people's physical abilities also have limits, just like a person can't lick his own elbow with his tongue no matter what."
"Only when human beings themselves 'progress'. For example, one day everyone can lick their own elbows with their tongues, can swordsmanship 'progress' along with it, and some new and more powerful swordsmanship will appear."
"But even so, swordsmanship that requires close quarters to injure the enemy will never be any stronger."
"Imagine this scene - a group of iron gunners armed with improved iron cannons capable of firing 100 rounds of projectiles at once, facing off against samurai who are still using swords."
"I'm afraid those warriors couldn't even take five steps before they were all killed."
"As a sword is a 'killing weapon', its killing efficiency will inevitably become less and less effective than the rapidly 'improving' iron cannon."
"Since the sword, which exists in the world as a 'killing weapon', has become less and less effective in killing people than the iron cannon, then what is the need for the sword to exist? What is the significance of the existence of the art of swordsmanship?"
"The only way out for the sword in the future is probably to completely turn it into a decoration in the house. And swordsmanship will turn into an entertainment and fitness exercise like Cuju."
Isshiki's expression has been turning green and white since just now.
"An iron cannon that can fire 100 rounds of projectiles in one breath... What nonsense are you talking about?" Isshiki gritted his teeth, "How could such an iron cannon exist?"
Isshiki raised his head, stretched his neck, and glared at Ogata with some anger on his face.
Perhaps because of his anger, his cheeks turned dark red.
Isshiki is slightly shorter than Ogata, only about 1.6 meters tall.
He was already shorter than Ogata, and the way he stretched his neck and raised his head to glare at Ogata made his stature even more exaggerated.
Amachi, who had been listening silently, now noticed that the atmosphere around him was getting worse and worse, and racked his brains to think of what to say to lighten the atmosphere.
Isshiki opened his mouth again at this moment, as if he was about to say something more.
But at this moment, his grandfather, who was sitting next to Isshiki, stretched out his hand and pulled Isshiki's sleeve.
"That's enough, Ryoma. That's it. Let's go back."
"Grandpa..." Isshiki turned his head and looked at his grandfather - Isshiki Naoshu.
"That's it." Naoshu stared at Isshiki and repeated what he had just said word for word.
Isshiki, whose face was full of dissatisfaction, hesitated for a while and then snorted coldly.
"...I'm sorry to disturb you. I thought your thoughts were similar to mine, but I didn't expect that your and my views are quite different. If we are destined to do so in the future, let us discuss it further."
After leaving these words coldly, Isshiki stood up directly and left Ogata without turning his head.
As for Naoshu - after he gave a simple salute to Ogata and Omachi, he quickly followed Isshiki.
After the grandfather and grandson returned to the place where they were originally sitting, Atachi tilted his head, smiled bitterly, and said in a low voice to Ogata:
"Really... I almost thought that Isshiki didn't fight with the samurai with the birthmark on his head, but was going to fight with you..."
"Although I agree with the view that 'firearms will eventually replace swords,' what you just said is indeed a bit too exaggerated. No wonder people are unhappy after hearing it."
"How can there be an iron cannon that can fire 100 rounds at a time? If an iron cannon can fire 100 rounds at a time, how big would the barrel of the gun have to be..."
After hearing this, Ogata couldn't help but smile helplessly because he felt a little aggrieved.
——I'm just telling you what will happen in the future...
In the future, not only will there be guns that can fire 100 rounds at a time, but bullets will also be fully evolved, and a steel plate as thick as a finger can be penetrated by one shot.
However, Ogata also expressed his understanding for Amachi's somewhat ignorant remarks in his eyes.
Although Omachi, who loves firearms, has a more advanced concept of firearms than the Japanese of this era, she is also a native woman of the Edo period after all, and her vision is limited.
So Ogata felt that it was understandable that Omachi and Isshiki just couldn't imagine a musket capable of firing 100 bullets.
Ogata couldn't explain to A-Machi that such a powerful musket would really appear in the future, so he could only smile helplessly while helping A-Machi wipe the sweat that broke out again due to seasickness and physical discomfort.
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"Ryoma." Naoshu said softly to Isshiki, "Are you still angry?"
"Of course." Ryoma replied without thinking, "Grandpa, that person just now was nakedly belittling swordsmanship. Aren't you angry?"
"I'm still angry right now."
After snorting heavily, Isshiki continued:
"I thought it would be hard to meet someone who has similar views to me after traveling for so long."
"I was originally thinking about inviting him to join us."
"I didn't expect that he would be the kind of person who speaks arrogant words."
"I have seen too many people like this who claim that 'sword skills are useless' with such a arrogant appearance."
Isshiki twitched the corner of his mouth and sneered disdainfully.
"Grandpa, haven't there been people like this in our sword hall before?"
"He keeps claiming that swordsmanship is useless, and ridicules those who are excellent in swordsmanship in the sword hall, saying that they are just learning skills that will never be used in the future."
"Essentially, those people are just saying sour grapes when they can't eat them."
"Those people who appeared in our sword hall before and claimed that swordsmanship is useless are all mediocre swordsmen. Because they can't practice swordsmanship well, they belittle swordsmanship and ridicule people with excellent swordsmanship in order to redeem themselves.
Poor self-confidence.”
Isshiki turned his head and cast a disgusted and mocking look at Ogata, who was currently wiping sweat from Omachi's forehead in the distance.
"Mashima Goro, who spared no effort to belittle swordsmanship, must be like those people. He is an arrogant person who has mediocre swordsmanship and just wants to restore his self-confidence by belittling swordsmanship."
"That Majima Goro should really thank you, grandpa. If you hadn't taken me away just in time, grandpa, I would have really wanted to challenge him, have a good spar with him, and let him see how powerful the swordsmanship he devalued is.
powerful."
After saying that, Isshiki, who was sitting cross-legged on the ground, held his sword in the air in front of him.
"That's enough." Zhi Zhou said with a displeased look on his face, "It's time to rein in your temper."
"After the samurai with the birthmark on his head demonstrated the secret sword of his sect just now, you shouldn't talk too much about his secret sword."
"Have you ever considered what trouble you might cause by saying those words to that birthmark warrior?"
"What if he really pulls out a knife and cuts you?"
"You actually have the nerve to tell me that if I hadn't taken you away in time just now, you would have competed with that Majima-kun."
"How many times have I told you, when walking outside, you should avoid getting into trouble."
After Naoshu began to reprimand Isshiki, Isshiki lowered his head lower and lower.
"...I admit that what I just did was a bit unconsidered." Isshiki flattened his lips and said softly, "But I can pretend that I didn't see anything. Only when I meet someone who calls juggling a swordsmanship,
And when you belittle or insult swordsmanship, you cannot turn a blind eye..."
After that, Isshiki, as if subconsciously, turned his head and looked at Ogata who was still concentrating on wiping Atachi's sweat in the distance.
Looking at Isshiki with his head lowered in front of him, Naoshu sighed heavily.
"What a worry-free child..."
"Listen up. Before you return to Osaka, don't let me find out that you are actively causing trouble again."
"If you do it again, I will never take you out again."
Isshiki nodded like a pound of garlic.
After nodding until his head felt dizzy, Isshiki stopped.
"The long study tour is finally coming to an end..." Isshiki let out a long breath and said with emotion, "I feel a little bit unwilling... We have traveled across most of Japan, and yet we can still meet Ogata-sama...
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"Japan is so big, how can Ittousai be so easy to come across." Naoshu said angrily, "If Ittousai was so easy to come across, the shogunate wouldn't need to go to such trouble to post wanted notices everywhere.
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"I really want to meet Ogata-sama..." Isshiki said with a look of longing on his face, "As the strongest swordsman in the world who has experienced hundreds of battles, he must also admire the practicality of swordsmanship, and he is very important to our swordsmanship.
I definitely agree with the concept that we should pay attention to physical exercise."
"I really want to meet him and have a good chat with him..."
Speaking of this, Isshiki once again glanced subconsciously at "Mashima Goro" who had just brought him an unpleasant experience.
But at this moment, Isshiki suddenly seemed to remember something, his expression paused, and then he kneeled behind Naoshu.
"Grandpa, help me block it." After saying that, Isshiki hid most of his upper body behind Naoshu.
"Huh? What's wrong?" Zhizhou turned his head and looked behind him.
Isshiki stretched out his tongue and tried to reach his right elbow with his tongue.
"That guy just said that people can't touch their elbows with their tongues." Isshiki said seriously, "I'm very concerned about this... Is it true that people's tongues can't touch their elbows?"
After finishing speaking, Isshiki stopped talking, stretched out his tongue with concentration, pressed his right elbow towards his face, and tried hard to reach his elbow with his tongue.
Looking at Isshiki's current funny appearance, Naoshu showed a dumbfounded expression, and then tried his best to straighten his back so that no one could see Isshiki's current appearance.
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You can try it now and see if you can touch your elbow with your tongue.