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Chapter 1188 Debate in court

 In the cabinet, Yu Shiyue and others stood in the public room, looking at Huai En with a solemn expression, and they became very energetic in their hearts.

You know, in recent days, for matters such as conveying orders, Wynn has basically stopped coming in person, and has sent two servants from the Supervisor of Ceremonies to take charge.

This time, he came in person, which showed that the message he wanted to convey was no small matter.

However, despite their expectations, they were still in a daze after hearing the decree.

"Eunuch Wynn, did your Majesty really say that?"

Seeing the cabinet ministers below looking at each other in confusion, Wynn looked as if he was expecting it, and repeated it again, saying.

"His Majesty's decree, the Ministry of Punishment has ordered the Ministry of Punishment to investigate whether Du Ning's confession is true, and has decreed to inform all ministers that state-owned laws are different between superiors and subordinates. The superiors and subordinates of the imperial court, the monarchs, ministers and the people must all perform their duties and abide by their responsibilities. This is the foundation for the prosperity of the country.

Tao is the foundation of peace in the world!"

It was not a secret that the emperor asked Chen Xun to visit Du Ning in the imperial prison, but after Chen Xun came out of the imperial prison, he looked very depressed and did not say anything about the content of the conversation.

In the past few days, there have been many speculations in the court. Until today, Wynn brought Du Ning's confession. Logically speaking, this confession should be sent to the Ministry of Punishment. However, what the cabinet ministers did not expect was that they were just testing

After mentioning it sexually, Wynn told them the content of the confession openly.

This action, combined with the emperor's action of handing the confession to the Ministry of Punishment for verification, can actually reveal a lot of things, but the emperor seemed to feel that it was not enough, so he said the following words.

Although it seems that these words did not mention the Duning case, since the emperor put them together, the following words are obviously his attitude towards the case.

This series of words can be summed up in just a few words: abide by the law and do your duty safely.

Du Ning's case is now attracting the attention of the court. If this confession is true, then it will most likely arouse heated discussions in the court.

You must know that matters in the court often need to be governed not only by legal principles, but also by reason. Although Du Ning's behavior violated the court's laws, it was not unreasonable.

The case of Du Ning also involves the issue of opening the sea. If this matter is used well, it may be a boost to the opening of the sea. However, under the current situation where the court adheres to the ancestral system in the general direction, it is very likely that it will turn into an attack on the open sea.

sea ​​means.

The emperor's meaning was actually very clear. The so-called abiding by the law and fulfilling his duties was actually reprimanding Du Ning for making his own decisions, thinking that he did not abide by his duties and fulfill his duties loyally.

What's more important is that this decree is obviously given to all the ministers in the court, which means that this is about to be another admonition from the emperor to his ministers.

However, no one can predict how this kind of admonishment will ultimately go when the court is quarreling over the opening of the sea...

A few days later, a new morning finally came.

Different from the usual court meetings, today's court meeting will discuss the opening of the sea as reported by the Ministry of Revenue.

This matter has been fermenting in the capital for a long time, and now, it is finally time to see the real chapter in the court.

Under the guidance of the etiquette officer, after all the ministers saluted, the Ministry of Revenue came forward and once again stated the reasons for opening the sea and related measures. During this period, the Ministry of Revenue was not idle either. Now they have produced this charter

, it has been improved a lot compared to before, but the general reasons and ideas remain the same.

After the Ministry of Household Affairs' statement was over, the first person to stand up was Ye Sheng, the official of Li Ke. As everyone expected, Ye Sheng's first line of attack was still ancestral.

"Your Majesty, the maritime ban system is an ancestral system established by Emperor Taizu. The maritime trade mentioned by the Ministry of Revenue, although it is not called the ancestral system, the imperial shop is far away in the capital. The so-called imperial merchants are actually entrusted to the private sector.

We are just merchants. If we act like this, the maritime ban will be abolished and relaxed."

Therefore, there are no fools in the court, and the tricks played by the household department are actually just deceiving others. A smart person will know what is going on at a glance.

Then, Ye Sheng continued to speak and said.

"The original intention of Taizu when he established the sea ban was to bring peace to the sea and ensure stability for the people. If the sea ban were to be lifted, many people would inevitably abandon their farming and engage in business. However, overseas countries would be separated by mountains and seas, in a remote corner, like Annan, occupying cities.

, Zhenla and other countries exchanged tributes and rewards, all relying on the sea ban. If the sea ban is abolished, thieves are rampant, and private trade is frequent, trouble will inevitably arise. My ancestors, Taizong, Renzong, and Xuanzong all regarded the sea ban as the peace of the state.

How can we change it without authorization? I think that what the Ministry of Revenue said is absolutely not accurate, and I hope your Majesty will learn from it."

As one of the representatives of the younger generation of Ke Dao, Ye Sheng still has something. His refutation of the Ministry of Household Affairs does not just stop at the fact that the sea ban is an ancestral system, but also deeply analyzes the origin and origin of the sea ban policy.

Benefits, and finally ended with the measures taken by the previous emperors to strictly implement maritime bans. This whole set of remarks can be said to be interlocking and righteous, and many ministers in the DPRK and China have echoed the words.

Of course, this was just the beginning. Following Ye Sheng's words, officials from the Ministry of Household Affairs also came forward. However, what surprised everyone was that this person turned out to be Yu Zijun, the head of the Ministry of Household Affairs.

Lord Yu's reputation was quite high in the official circles. He was the top candidate in the palace examination in the first year of Jingtai, and was selected by the emperor himself. He then joined the Ministry of Household Affairs to observe government affairs, and was deeply appreciated by Shen Yi, the Minister of Household Affairs.

Recently, there has been news that Mr. Yu will be transferred to Funing Prefecture as magistrate, which is a moderate promotion. It is said that the Ministry of Personnel is already drafting the transfer order. It will not be long before the imperial edict is issued and he will be promoted.

It's time to leave Beijing.

Logically speaking, at this time, he should keep a low profile and speak cautiously. Moreover, after all, Yu Zijun has only entered the officialdom for a few years. Compared with most officials in the palace today, he is considered a junior. Let him come forward to represent

Is it really possible for Tobe to refute other people?

Many people cast doubtful eyes on Shen Yi, the Minister of the Ministry of Finance. However, this old man remained motionless, as if nothing had happened, and he calmly watched everything in the palace.

So, Yu Zijun stood still in the palace, faced the scrutiny from everyone in the court, and spoke generously, saying.

"Your Majesty, I believe that what Mr. Ye said is unreasonable."

"This memorial from the Ministry of Finance is not to disrupt the maritime ban, but to strengthen ties with overseas countries. Since Mr. Ye knows that Taizu compiled the list of countries that should not be conquered in the fifteenth year of Mingzu's instructions, he should know why Taizu listed them as

No levy…”

It has to be said that Yu Zijun is still somewhat capable. Ye Sheng brought out Huang Ming's ancestral precepts and said it was a problem, and Yu Zijun also used Huang Ming's ancestral precepts to fight back against him.

"...the barbarians in the four directions are all isolated in a corner separated by mountains and seas. The land they get is not enough to provide for them, and the people they get are not enough to command them. If they don't think about themselves and come to scratch our side, it will be unlucky for them.

Even if it is not because of China's troubles, it is also unlucky for me to raise troops to commit minor crimes. I am afraid that future generations will rely on China's wealth and strength, be greedy for temporary military achievements, raise troops for no reason, and cause harm to human lives. Remember not to..."

"This is the ancestral motto of the Emperor Ming Dynasty. Mr. Ye picked up the chapter and excerpted the sentence. He just wanted to explain that if there are frequent contacts, disputes will inevitably arise. However, the ancestral precept has made it clear that if he disturbs me, it will be unlucky for him.

Although the imperial court does not rely on its own wealth and strength to raise troops to fight against it, it is not afraid of its invasion."

"In the past, Emperor Taizong ordered the three treasure eunuchs to make six voyages to the West, which greatly enhanced the country's prestige. All overseas countries admired us for the prosperity of the Ming Dynasty, became more respectful, and paid constant tribute. Today's report from the Ministry of Households, although it is not as wasteful as the voyage to the West, it has the same goal as the voyage to the West.

, they are all kings and their virtues spread all over the world, so that our country, which is a tributary of the Ming Dynasty, can enjoy the grace of the Holy Lord and respect the Ming Dynasty Will, so why should there be any disputes?"

These words, from the ancestral precepts of the Emperor Ming Dynasty when it comes to Zheng He's voyages to the Western Seas, cling to the word "Xuanhe" and "the prestige of the country", and transfer the purpose of opening the sea to the word "kingdom". It must be said that it is an extremely wonderful explanation.

Transforming a vassal country into a royal state has always been an upright method, and it has also been praised by Confucians of all dynasties.

Yu Zijun cut in from this angle, almost blocking Ye Sheng's words.

Of course, Ye Sheng was not easy to deal with. He was keenly aware of the loopholes in Yu Zijun's words and retorted decisively.

"Of course what Mr. Yu said is not unreasonable, but if everything in the world is as it is written on paper, how can it be so difficult to govern the country? I am afraid that if we really get to that point, it will not be what Mr. Yu wants...

"

The intention of these words is very obvious, which is to say that what Yu Zijun said is too idealistic.

These overseas countries will not dare to offend the Ming Dynasty, but when the day comes when maritime trade is really liberalized, facts will teach him how to behave.

However, as soon as the words fell, Ye Sheng immediately realized that something was wrong. Unfortunately, it was already too late. A smile appeared on Yu Zijun's face opposite him and said.

"So, Mr. Ye, do you think that the reason why these small overseas countries coexist harmoniously with the Ming Dynasty is not because they admire the prosperity and vastness of the Ming Dynasty, but simply because the Ming Dynasty imposes a strict maritime ban, which prevents them from having the opportunity to contact the Ming Dynasty?"

As soon as these words came out, all the ministers present suddenly became agitated.

It has to be said that Yu Zijun's words were simply heart-wrenching words, and they immediately forced Ye Sheng into a corner.

At that moment, a trace of cold sweat broke out on Ye Sheng's forehead, he knelt down and said.

"Your Majesty clearly knows that I have no such intention!"

Zhu Qiyu's eyes fell on the two people facing each other in the hall, and his expression was somewhat meaningful.

This old guy Shen Yi really holds a grudge.

This sea opening was initiated by Yu Qian and led by the Ministry of Revenue. Therefore, Zhu Qiyu adopted Yu Shiyue's suggestion and planned to send Wang Yue and Yu Zijun to Fujian to play a role in the subsequent sea opening matters. function.

Chen Yi didn't have any objections to this point, but it could be seen that he was very upset about the fact that Wang Yue's rank after transfer was higher than that of Yu Zijun.

During this court meeting, he asked Yu Zijun to come forward to refute the opponents on behalf of the Ministry of Revenue. To put it bluntly, it was a bit of a pity. The purpose was to show Zhu Qiyu that the people he brought out were no worse than those brought out by Yu Qian.

This inexplicable desire to compare made Zhu Qiyu a little helpless. However, it must be said that Shen Yi's move was quite bold and confident enough.

And Yu Zijun, at least so far, has not disappointed and successfully withstood the first wave of offensive.

Although the debate between him and Ye Sheng just now was not dangerous, it was thoughtful and led Ye Sheng into a trap step by step, and he was ultimately defeated.

but……

Facing the slightly panicked Ye Sheng, Yu Zijun did not give up, but continued.

"Master Ye's heart for the country is known to the whole court. If this is the case, I think after understanding the intentions of the Ministry of Household Affairs and the benefits of maritime trade, Master Ye's thoughts will probably change, right?"

After the words fell, Ye Sheng's face suddenly became a little ugly.

At the same time, Zhu Qiyu also sighed softly, too much is not enough!

Yu Zijun is indeed a talent, but after all, he is young and too energetic. In fact, at this point, Ye Sheng has already been defeated, and there is no need to continue to pursue him.

However, Yu Zijun insisted on letting Ye Sheng admit that he was wrong. Although it could boost the momentum of Hubu's side, it seemed a bit aggressive.

This kind of behavior can easily lead to enemies in the court...

However, having said that, Zhu Qiyu didn't say much.

On the one hand, the aggressive style has a certain deterrent effect on the opponents who have not yet appeared in the court proceedings at this stage. After all, behind Yu Zijun is Shen Yi, and his attitude can also represent Shen Yi's determination.

Secondly, no one is immune from making mistakes. Young people have just entered the officialdom and it is inevitable that they will make mistakes if they are determined. After hard work, they will always make progress. Yu Zijun still has a long way to go. It is harmless to make some small mistakes now. .

Unsurprisingly, after hearing Yu Zijun's words, Ye Sheng's face turned ugly, but he still managed to say.

"That's true. However, I'm afraid we need to discuss the specific matters more."

Everyone could hear the unwillingness in his tone. After saying this, Ye Sheng kowtowed, then stood up and stepped aside. Obviously, he did not want to say another word to Yu Zijun.

However, the confrontation was obviously not over. After a brief silence, Yushi Qian Shu stood up and said.

"Your Majesty, although what Master Yu just said is reasonable, I have a different view."

With that said, Qian Shu continued without waiting for Yu Zijun on the side to react.

"The purpose of this memorial is to increase contacts with overseas countries. If this is the case, then it is necessary to build more posthouses, docks and even cities. In order to prevent the Japanese pirates from coming back and affecting the tribute envoys, it is also necessary to increase the local garrison. In this way

Now, the imperial court needs to invest a lot of money and food, and the deployment of officers and soldiers also needs many adjustments."

"In recent years, our court has suffered from natural disasters year after year, and disaster relief in various places requires money and food. It has already been somewhat stretched. The Ministry of Revenue itself should be the most aware of this."

"If this is the case, then the most urgent thing for the imperial court at the moment should be to recuperate, rest with the people, and make every effort to ensure that the people can live through the disaster years in peace. The matter of maritime trade may allow overseas countries to exchange their knowledge with our Ming Dynasty, but

, but it is not the most urgent matter, and no one can say whether the sea trade matter will have any effect."

"Therefore, for the sake of the people, perhaps it would be more appropriate to discuss this matter again after the court is safe in the coming year and the treasury is full!"


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