Chapter 4978: Persuading surrender is also a debate (3)

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Liu Muzhi sneered and said: "Xu Daofu is quite capable of putting all the responsibilities on a dead man, but his sophistry cannot deceive anyone. The army he led himself massacred cities, killed prisoners, and made love between heaven and man.

These things have not been done less. Even in this rebellion, there are also these evil deeds. It is difficult to explain only using Sun Enlai as a shield. However, these are just small details. Mr. Tao, I doubt you will follow him.

Let’s go and worry about things like military discipline and human nature.”

Tao Yuanming smiled slightly: "Of course, you can't argue like that for several days, and he is unreasonable. In the end, he will definitely kill me out of anger, so I didn't bother with him too much. I just said that the reputation of Tianshi Dao is far and wide.

, the evil reputation is too great, it is impossible for me to associate with them, because our Tao family has been loyal for generations, and we will repay the favor of the country with life and death. We are not the same travelers as them. If he wants to kill me, just kill me quickly. Don't worry about it.

Persuaded to surrender."

"But Xu Daofu changed the topic and said that they were actually people of the Jin State. Although they had always been tenant farmers, they were not born rebellious. However, the traitorous ministers of the Jin State were in the party. Sima Daozi and Sima Yuan

For the sake of their own power, Xian and his son betrayed Tianshi Dao, who wanted to serve the country. Back then, Sun Tai was attached to Sima Daozi, and everyone knew about it. As a result, during the Battle of Feishui, Sima Daozi saw the Xie family formed

The Beifu Army was jealous and wanted to follow the example of the Xie family in establishing their own private army. However, Sima Daozi had no power other than the name of a clan, so he secretly ordered Sun Tai to summon followers and form an army."

Liu Muzhi was a little surprised: "So, when Sun Tai gathered people to cause chaos, he was actually ordered by Sima Daozi? Then he is a righteous soldier, why do you think he has evil intentions?"

Tao Yuanming sighed: "Actually, I know about this. Because the Xie family formed a private army, the other major families in the Black Hand Universe were very dissatisfied. So later, Xi Chao took the lead and the other three families followed up and joined forces with the black-robed Murong Chui from the north.

To make a plan and destroy the Beifu Army of the Xie family, since even the Xie family could not allow him to form an independent army, Sima Daozi's royal private army could not allow him to start it, so the secret agents of the Black Hand Qiankun lurking around Sun Tai were

Go to the government and report that Sun Tai has gathered a crowd to raise an army and is plotting something evil."

"Sima Daozi secretly ordered Sun Tai to build an army. There was no official document. He didn't even tell Emperor Sima Yao about his thoughts. So Black Hand Qiankun let Sima Yao know about it. The emperor was furious. He originally thought that his brother and

I wanted to revitalize the Sima family, but my brother went behind his back to build an army and colluded with those demons from Tianshi Dao. Did he want to take away his throne?"

Yu Yue gave a high-five: "There are no brothers before the imperial power. I understand. In order to avoid the anger of the emperor brother, Sima Daozi got rid of his own prince, so he threw his soldiers to protect the chariot and took the initiative to kill Sun Tai and his party first. Not only did he kill

Thousands of believers gathered together, and even hundreds of members of the Sun family were killed. Except for one Sun En who escaped, it can be said that they were completely wiped out!"

Liu Muzhi sneered and said: "Those who are ruthless and unjust will definitely be rewarded. Now I understand why Sima Yuanxian wants to do something. It turns out that he had already wanted to build an army through Tianshi Dao before, but it didn't work.

In the end, I simply recruited troops by myself in the form of a decree from the imperial court. At that time, Sima Yao also died inexplicably. It seems that Sima Dao and his son have never changed their minds about supporting the army and being self-reliant."

Having said this, Liu Muzhi paused, looked at Tao Yuanming, and said in a deep voice: "In this way, Xu Daofu wants to say that Sun En raised the army for revenge, and Xu Daofu and Lu Xun also avenged their master.

They want to avenge the innocent church members who died in vain, so what they want to get rid of is just the traitor Sima Daozi and Sima Yuanxian and his son, not the emperor who was against the Jin Dynasty, right?"

Tao Yuanming smiled slightly: "Yes, that's what he said. I almost believed what he said."

Liu Muzhi sneered and said: "I almost believed it. If they hadn't been killing people and stealing goods everywhere in Wudi, conquering cities and territories, and killing the children of the aristocratic families, I really believed that they were the righteous masters of revenge. How did they explain it later?

What about the atrocities I committed against the noble family?"

Tao Yuanming glanced at Yu Yue and said: "Because the aristocratic family has accumulated too much land and trapped too many northern refugees and serfs from the south of the Yangtze River into their own manor, they have become tenant farmers and villagers who are not registered in the imperial court for generations.

We, these people have suffered a lot of grievances and pains for decades, and this suffering is inherited from generation to generation. There is no hope of seeing an end. Why did so many people join Tianshi Dao in the past? Isn’t it because the reality is too painful?

, the aristocratic families riding on their heads are going too far. Only religion can give these suffering people at the bottom some hope and illusion?"

Yu Yue said unconvinced: "I don't agree with this. These lands and manors were allocated to our aristocratic family from the founding of the Jin Dynasty. We have made meritorious service to the country, and our descendants will continue to serve as officials."

To govern and manage the people, if it weren't for the estates of aristocratic families like ours, many of them would have no place to live and would have starved to death long ago. How come we have bullied them in turn?"

Liu Muzhi said coldly: "If it weren't for a big family like the Yu family, which occupies almost all the land in the south of the Yangtze River, how could these tenant farmers have no land to share? You don't work with your own hands, you all rely on these

The tenant farmers worked hard and worked hard to till the land, so how can it become a favor to them again?"

Yu Yue murmured disapprovingly: "Didn't Mr. Tao just say that there should be rules in this world, and there should be distinctions between high and low. The noble family should..."

Liu Muzhi didn't want to continue talking nonsense with Yu Yue, so he waved his hand and interrupted him: "Regarding these matters of heaven and rules, we will have time to discuss them more clearly in the future. Now let's focus on the important ones, Tao Gong, you

It is also said that these tenant farmers joined the demon thieves because they were bullied too hard and wanted hope. Tianshi Dao gave them this hope and successfully turned this act of revenge into reality. So Xu Daofu said

Yes, those brutal and inhumane retaliatory massacres and atrocities against the Jiangnan aristocratic families were spontaneously committed by the people at the bottom, right?"

Tao Yuanming said calmly: "Yes, that's it. Xu Daofu said that because Sun En had taken forbidden drugs, his brain was not working well, and he made a bad start. After all, his entire family was killed, and the blood feud was to pursue the Jin Dynasty.

The officials and generals retaliated, and then the people below followed suit. Some even encouraged that eating the meat of these dignitaries would make them live longer and cure all diseases. As a result, these atrocities became out of control.

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