Although the reformists took the initiative in the situation, Wang Anshi, as a witness, was very unhappy about this.
He felt that he was a target, and they were still bullying them, back and forth, endlessly, but he didn't have the power to fight back, so he didn't have this chance.
His mouth is also swollen. If he doesn't say a few words, he will feel uncomfortable!
Am I not the protagonist?
Next time something like this happens, Lu Huiqing will have to do it. We can't afford to lose this person.
...
However, as both parties continued to ask questions, the observers gradually became immersed in it. They were not thinking about the power and interests, but the nature of the problem.
The officials sitting here now are not idlers. They have all seen that the key point in the dispute between the two sides is the power to establish the Ordinance Department of the second government.
Preventing things and controlling them also means to prevent excessive power.
This is actually the issue they are most concerned about.
So as long as it can be proved that the Ordinance Department of the Second Government has great power, we can explain it from this point when we discuss the ancestral law later.
vice versa.
Their voices of inquiry could only be heard in the huge courtyard.
Although some people were communicating in low voices, they all lowered their voices involuntarily, as if they were afraid of disturbing them.
But most people looked thoughtful, including Shenzong Zhao Xu.
Because there are very few court arguments that can explain power so thoroughly.
Usually everyone talks very cryptically.
Again, everyone understands it, there is no need to explain it.
This is why Wang Anshi glared at Zhang Fei. Your words are too explicit, not tactful at all, and cannot be said to be clever.
But after it is truly explained, there are many aspects that can arouse everyone's deep thought.
They also suddenly discovered that some issues had to be explained thoroughly, because if explained thoroughly, it would be less likely to cause misunderstandings.
Zhang Fei first looked at Fan Chunren with loving eyes and thought to himself that he had really learned well. He stood up and asked Wang Anshi: "Fan Sijian mentioned law and power earlier. I didn't understand it very well. How can I understand it?"
Can I trouble you, University Scholar Wang, to explain it?"
"That's it." Sima Guang nodded frequently and his eyes shone.
Wen Yanbo on the side asked: "What's the reason for this? What did you think of?"
Sima Guang explained: "Don't you have a knack for this lawsuit? Both sides can ask witnesses on both sides, and both sides only ask for the answers they want. Just now, Fan Sijian didn't give Wang Jiefu a chance to explain. This
It was obviously unfavorable to Wang Jiefu, but Zhang San immediately gave Wang Jiefu a chance to explain. This lawsuit is really getting more interesting the more you watch it!"
Wen Yanbo was confused when he heard this. It turns out that our focus is completely different!
Everyone was thinking about the power to establish the Ordinance Department of the Second Government, but Sima Guang was paying attention to the secret of fighting lawsuits.
what?
You want to be an ear pen.
"Of course!" Wang Anshi nodded, but he looked weak. It was too boring, just like a puppet. He asked in a low mood: "Do you know the relationship between the Privy Council and the Sanyamen?"
Zhang Fei nodded and said, "My understanding is that the Privy Council is responsible for issuing orders, while the San Yamen are responsible for managing military affairs. Is that correct?"
Wang Anshi nodded and said: "That's right. We established the Ordinance Department of the Second Government to only be responsible for legislation, but we have no authority to issue any government orders to Zhongshu's subordinates and the three Privy Council offices. Zhongshu's subordinates are still under the management of Tongping Zhangshi, and the Privy Council
It is still under the management of the privy envoys, and the three departments are still under the management of the Prime Minister."
Zhang Fei smiled and said, "Thank you very much." Then he said to Han Qi and Fu Bi, "I've finished asking."
Fu Bi smiled and nodded. The play became more interesting the more he watched it, making him even give up his position, as if he was exploring the truth.
As soon as he sat down, Fan Chunren stood up and seemed to be in the mood. After all, he was the son of Fan Zhongyan, and he was also experienced in the court. He asked: "I heard that there is an official position under the Ordinance Department of the Second Government.
It’s called the official who controls the interests and benefits.”
Wang Anshi nodded.
Fan Chunren said: "Could you ask Bachelor Wang to explain to us what the duties and powers of this minister are?"
Xu Zhiqian whispered: "Fan Sijian's speaking skills are becoming more and more like yours."
Zhang Fei smiled bitterly and said: "I hope that piracy will not drive out genuine copies."
Xu Zhiqian pursed her lips and smiled, "That's not necessarily true."
Zhang Fei smiled and said: "But it can't be now, so I just used my power."
Xu Zhiqian looked at Zhang Fei in shock.
I heard Wang Anshi reply: "Xiangdu Lisiguan is mainly responsible for supervising the implementation of the new law in various places."
This time, without waiting for Fan Chunren to ask questions, he said himself: "I do not deny that the Xiangdu Lisi Officer has certain supervisory powers, but at the beginning of the reform, if people who are familiar with the new law are not sent to supervise, there may be problems in terms of implementation.
Many problems will arise. If we can know the implementation situation in time and if there is any inappropriateness, we can make appropriate adjustments immediately."
He spoke very fast, as if he was afraid that he would not be allowed to speak.
A lawsuit is a lawsuit, and no one can talk about it. How uncomfortable it is!
Fan Chunren nodded and said with a smile: "I also think it should be so. So, please ask, Bachelor Wang, who will supervise your establishment of the Ordinance Department of the Second Government?"
When he asked this question, a proud smile finally appeared on his face.
And there was a burst of cheers from behind him at the right time.
"good!"
"Good question!"
...
The people sitting behind him are all civil servants and scholar-bureaucrats. They should not be applauded like the citizens, but from the beginning to now, Fan Chunren has been suppressed by Zhang Fei, and they have been suppressing it very hard!
I also need to vent.
This issue will undoubtedly put shackles on the Ordinance Department of the Second Government.
No matter how Wang Anshi answered, they would all benefit.
Many neutral parties' criticism of the establishment of the Ordinance Department of the Second Government also lies in who will control this department. He promulgated the royalty law, and Zhongshu's disciples knew it together with the people.
It has not been discussed at the court meeting.
This is also the issue that many officials are most concerned about.
Things are for prevention and music is for control, which also contains the meaning of mutual checks and balances.
In fact, when political systems were designed in all dynasties, they were designed to prevent one family from becoming dominant.
However, when faced with this problem, Wang Anshi smiled slightly and cursed: "This stinky boy!"
Fan Chunren asked in confusion: "What did Academician Wang say?"
"ah?"
Wang Anshi shook his head and said, "I'm not talking about you."
He coughed lightly, looked at Fan Chunren, and asked with a smile: "I wonder what Fan Sijian is doing now?"
Fan Chunren was stunned for a moment and replied: "I'm asking about Bachelor Wang."
Wang Anshi asked again: "I mean why are you standing here?"
Seeing the smile twinkling in Wang Anshi's eyes, Fan Chunren hesitated for a while and replied cautiously: "I'm here to argue for Qian Yushi."
Wang Anshi nodded and said, "What is the fight for?"
Fan Chunren replied: "Does your establishment of the Ordinance Department of the Second Government violate the laws of our ancestors?"
Wang Anshi chuckled and said: "I am a dignified official in political affairs, and I am sitting here being interrogated by one of your ministers. When Fan Gong and others reformed the law, they were not as miserable as I was. You also asked me about the establishment of the Ordinance Department of the Second Government.
Who will supervise it? Of course it will be supervised by the judiciary!”
Fan Chunren couldn't help but frown and was silent. He suddenly realized, wasn't I restricting the establishment of the Ordinance Department of the Second Government?
A feeling of shooting oneself in the foot arises spontaneously.
Zhang Fei glanced at Wang Anshi with some satisfaction, but what he got was two angry looks.
Seeing this, Xu Zhiqian couldn't help but smile to herself and whispered: "This time they have no chance of winning."
"wrong!"
Zhang Fei said seriously: "They had no chance of winning from the beginning."
Fu Bi and Han Qi looked at each other and shook their heads slightly.
really.
When the Qingli New Deal was at its most serious, Fan Zhongyan was not allowed to sit in court and be interrogated.
Because before this, the judiciary could not restrict the court from formulating policies.
This is really the first time.
From this point of view, it is indeed too much to talk about restrictions.
After a while, Han Qi asked, "Does Fan Sijian have anything else to ask?"
Fan Chunren was startled, shook his head, and sat down, his frustration clearly visible on the page.
This problem is very fatal.
Zhang Fei suddenly said to Xu Zhiqian: "Qian Yi's essay."
Xu Zhiqian immediately handed a copy of the article to Zhang Fei. After all, they had less preparation this time and did not need to look for it.
Zhang Fei stood up and suddenly looked at Qian Yi. Seeing that the little old man seemed to be wandering in his mind, he first held up his hands and said, "Qian Yushi."
Qian Yi, who had been forgotten for a long time, had completely entered the audience mode. When he heard Zhang Fei suddenly calling him, he was stunned for a moment before he realized what he was doing. He immediately cheered up and looked at Zhang Fei nervously.
These questions are so terrible, even scarier than court arguments!
Both parties have no scruples and are digging into the details.
Zhang Fei flipped through the article and asked: "As far as I know, Qian Yushi once raised questions about the Confucian classics of Scholar Wang, and even expressed opposition."
Qian Yi nodded.
"I object!"
Fan Chunren suddenly stood up and asked, "What does this matter have to do with this?"
Zhang Fei replied: "The two are absolutely related. I will explain this later."
Fan Chunren asked: "Why don't you explain it now?"
Zhang Fei said: "This is the reason for our cross-examination. Before Qian Yushi answers, what should I answer you?"
Fan Chunren sat down.
Zhang Fei glanced at the article again and continued to ask Qian Yi: "Qian Yushi supports and agrees with some of the reform ideas of Grand Scholar Sima."
Qian Yi nodded and said, "Yes."
Zhang Fei said: "At that time, the Ordinance Department of the Second Government had not yet been established. Can we say that this was just a difference in subjective ideas. Qian Yushi's approval and opposition at that time did not mean that the other party must have violated the law or not. Qian Yushi did not know
Does Shi agree with my opinion?"
Qian Yi nodded.
Zhang Fei said: "Qian Yushi thinks that your previous argument or this court dispute is more fair and effective?"
After hearing this, Fan Chunren couldn't help but feel downcast.
Qian Yi was silent.
Zhang Fei waited for a while and then said: "As for this question, Qian Yushi can answer whatever he thinks in his heart. After all, the two presiding judges will have their own judgment."
The implication is, it doesn't matter if you lie, I won't bully you.
It’s all been laid out on the table, and even a blind person knows the answer!
Qian Yi nodded and said: "This trial is more fair and more effective."
"Thank you Qian Yushi for your answer."
Zhang Fei then asked Han Qi and Fu Bi: "The reason why I ask this question is just to prove that judicial supervision is absolutely effective. In some aspects, it can even be better than the supervision of the Yushi admonishers.
Said it was a perfect complement.”
Han Qi nodded and said: "Indeed! Your question is very critical and has a great relationship with this situation."
This question is undoubtedly a supplement to the previous question and provides strong support for judicial supervision.
"I've asked all my questions."
Zhang Fei sat down.
Han Qi looked at Fan Chunren again.
Fan Chunren stood up and asked: "Master Wang, do you mean to establish the Ordinance Department of the second government to accept judicial supervision?"
Wang Anshi nodded.
Fan Chunren said: "Then it will be illegal to establish the Ordinance Department of the Second Government in the future, and anyone has the right to file a complaint."
"I object."
Zhang Fei said: "What does it mean that anyone has the right to file a lawsuit? This lawsuit requires evidence. I still have doubts about the evidence of your lawsuit this time."
Fan Chunren looked slightly embarrassed and said: "Yes, I can't explain clearly."
Zhang Fei sat back.
Fan Chunren asked again: "Then it will be illegal to establish the Ordinance Department of the second government in the future. If there is conclusive evidence, anyone has the right to file a complaint."
Wang Anshi smiled and said: "Of course, it is not only the establishment of the Ordinance Department of the second government, but also the Zhongshu Men and the Privy Council are all under the supervision of the judiciary."
"Thank you."
Fan Chunren bowed his hands and said to Han Qi and Fu Bi: "I have asked all my questions."