Chapter 767 Trying to mend trust
Li Su's thoughts were also very confused. He had too many things in his stomach and didn't know where to start. Moreover, his content had to be embellished and false, and he said that what had happened was a philosophical deduction, which made him even more tiring.
Fortunately, Liu Bei was not very anxious. He had already fallen into a state of anxiety and luck alternating with luck. He felt that such a difficult problem was that even if he was as wise as Li Su and knew the destiny as Li Su, it would be normal that he could not answer it for the moment.
"Your wise brother Boya can think of the two moves of "The Palace of Blessings" and "The Records of the Grand Historian to Search for the Orthodox" and "The Records of the Grand Historian to Search for the Orthodox" and it is not easy for me to pass through the orthodox method. My problem today is indeed a bit too abrupt..." Liu Bei thought to himself in his heart when he saw Li Su pondering.
Fortunately, Li Su finally sorted out his thoughts and speech, recalled and sorted out Liu Bei's main questions just now, and began to answer them one by one.
"Your Majesty asked at the end, assuming that there is no His Majesty in the world, will China fall into a state of humiliation and war in a state of continuous war? Although this question should not be assumed, I can answer positively: It is very likely.
At first, Yuan Shao would be the Han Dynasty, but if he did not make a quick move and did not survive until he could destroy other remaining Han forces, then it would be inevitable that Cao Cao would be the one who replaced Yuan.
After Cao Cao, I can't explain the specific deductions of how he was usurped by others, but it was nothing more than that Cao Cao chose two ways: either seriously defame the military officials, abandon his martial arts, and change the situation where China was strong and barbarians were weak since the Qin and Han Dynasties. In this way, Cao Cao would eventually die in Hu.
If Cao Cao did not seriously defame the military officials, but he himself was usurping Yuan and established himself. Considering that anyone would be cautious about the path he had once walked, Cao Cao would definitely summarize the conclusion that "the demise of Yuan's family was that the military power of the royal family was not overwhelmingly superior to the military power of the foreign surname, so he was provoked by the foreign surname to seek trouble in chaos."
At that time, he would be the kings of the Cao surname and actually hold military power. Even if it would lead to a recurrence of the seven kingdoms of Wu and Chu in Han, one or two generations, would he be willing to do so. Moreover, Cao Cao was such a person. He had not yet gained much territory and only used Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan, Cao Hong and Cao Ren to take charge of the troops. How could the other generals have more than 50,000 mercenaries?
In his opinion, even if the Seven Kingdoms Rebellion recurs, at least the seven kingdoms in the future will be the surname Cao. Even if the center is destroyed by local vassal kings, the last one will be the surname Cao. It is better than the Cao family being destroyed like Yuan family after being usurped by others.
When the orthodox collapses, the most important thing is often the first sixty years, that is, the lifespan of a generation. Once the first sixty years have passed, it is ensured that the people of an empire were born after the founding of the country.
The old men born in the previous dynasty are old and dead, and no one has experienced the bloody storm of dynasty changes. They will not have the memories of the previous dynasty that they have experienced personally, and they will not think that "dynasty will change" is normal. Instead, they think that dynasty will not change. This is considered that orthodox cognition is basically stable among the common people.
Of course, this place is only aimed at the common people, not scholars, that is, those who have read books. Scholars will understand the previous dynasty through history, so once the orthodox nature in their hearts collapses, it will be difficult to rebuild it with time.
From this perspective, although Emperor Gaozu's conferred the kings of Guangzhe, which led to the destiny of the kings' bloodlines gradually fading away, it did indeed complete the historical mission of "making all the common people who had never read books forget that they had the previous dynasty" and helped the Han Dynasty to pass the lifespan of the first generation of common people.
However, the rebellion of the Seven Kingdoms was a lesson that must be learned after all. Cao Cao hoped that the kings of Guangfeng would survive the 60 years of the collapse of the orthodox king, and he might not be able to ensure that the center is better than the local area.
Once the world is in chaos, it will no longer be able to stabilize the 'whether the common people know orthodox'. Compared with the Han Dynasty, Cao Cao never had orthodox nature among the scholars, so as long as the center cannot suppress the vassal kings, all knowledgeable people will be fences, and no loyal and righteous people will eventually be limited to collapse."
Li Su said this very difficult, and he stopped several times. Not only did he give Liu Bei time to understand and absorb, he also temporarily organized and adjusted his rhetoric, and reversely pieced together and interpreted the "Eight Kings Rebellion" and "Five Barbarians Invasion of China" and disguised it as "the gains of wisdom deduction."
The treatment in many places is still rather awkward.
Fortunately, it was originally deduced out of thin air, and Liu Bei had no picture at all. Li Suneng had some reasonable and evidence to tell some real information, which he already felt very reasonable.
In fact, it is more important that Li Su has known him for thirteen years, and has made every decision and has accumulated enough credit. Now that Li Su has said something that is not detailed, he tends to believe it directly.
In short, Liu Bei did come to the deduction conclusion that "as long as the orthodox collapses, the cycle of warlords usurping the throne is inevitable, and to be stable, one must harm foreign combat effectiveness to suppress military officials", and he was also worried that he had avoided this abyss.
However, after pondering for a long time, Liu Bei actually learned something from other things and realized something by himself. This kind of awakening would not be possible if it were Liu Bei, who did not like to read in history.
But in this life, Liu Bei not only personally read history books and seeks experience in governing chaos, but also read political philosophy books such as "The Palace of the Blessed Relationship" written by Li Su. Liu Bei found doubts from his learning experience of "The Palace of the Blessed Relationship":
"Boya, in this way, you created the "On the Blessed Relationship of the Palace", especially the "Question of the Chosen of Cai Ligong" which was written later, but now I can see an insight from it:
Once the palace's blessing theory spreads all over the world and is known to scholars all over the world, the scholars are fearful and afraid of God's punishment, and dare not act rashly for their own desires and power. However, the head of Guizhou is ignorant and does not know how to fear, so those who are kings still need to be careful to the people, and those who rise up do not know how to punish God.
Now it seems that you have long known that your palace prosperity will be blessed and how applicable it is. What you want to pursue is not simply for the Liu family’s surname to be difficult forever, but just by doing it.
What you want is to block the way of changing dynasties such as "the powerful and the rich usurpation". Even if the dynasty is changed, it can only be the leader of Guizhou. It cannot be the ambitious people among the powerful and the rich and the warlords usurpation for their own selfish desires?
In this way, no matter who is surnamed in the world, as long as the number of days has a reason to change the magic weapon, it is not that the powerful warlords usurpate, and as long as the warlords usurpate have not succeeded in history, then the monarchs of the new dynasty can still trust the military officials without harming each other with civil and military forces, and deprive the Han people of the combat power against the barbarians.
To summarize, can it be understood that what you are pursuing is this: First, you can change dynasties less, and you can change dynasties less. But if you change your surname and enjoy wealth and wealth, you can enjoy the kind of dynasties that have not changed anything else, it’s fine if you don’t want it.
It is necessary to change, and that is why the head of Guizhou cannot survive. Even after the reform, there must be a new policy to benefit the world. It still tries not to hurt the mutual trust between the monarch and the generals, and does not produce the first successful usurpation of the general in history."
When Liu Bei said such words, he was definitely because he drank too much rum milk wine, was unrestrained and courageous, so he could say it.
As we all know, the three realms of drinking helping creativity are only "slightly drunk" that starts inspiration for creative purposes. "So refreshing" does not lead to discovering inspiration, but only makes people dare to express the inspiration that has been produced before, while "drunk" is just a mistake and a piece of drink is gone.
Liu Bei thought and listened, and just reached the critical point of the transition from "slightly drunk" to "sophisticated", and said it all.
But Li Sucai was a little drunk. Liu Bei dared to say that he didn't dare to interfere. Of course, he said steadily: "There is still an end to human intelligence. I am very smart and can only think of a way to make up for this step. The rest are not unwilling to me, but I can't."
Liu Bei waved his hand and said, "Okay, I just realized it suddenly and didn't blame you. I knew you didn't dare to speak out completely, even if you didn't have Liu Er.
Forget it, this topic has been revealed, and I dare not talk about it when I am closed. I have been in charge of chaos and chaos so many times, who dares to say that it will last forever? The descendants are unworthy, and they are really fish and people. The poor have no place to stand, so they will naturally rise up.
At the end of the previous Han Dynasty, even Liu Xin was a royal family and was in charge of the Grand Historian. He even thought that Wang Mang should have served as the Han Dynasty, so he might have seen the poor in person. This sentence was written by him.
Let me say something constructive. Today I will discuss this with my brother. My biggest gain is to discover how rare it is to find that the "the king and the generals are in love with each other and have no doubts about each other" that I didn't care much about before. It is actually the root of the martial arts style of China.
This root marrow is extremely difficult to establish and easily hurt, but it is extremely important. It is related to whether the Chinese Han Dynasty can maintain its advantages over the barbarians and Rongdi for a long time.
It seems that Anshun Chongzheng Huan Ling, and the disaster in Xianbei became more and more serious. It is related to the fact that after Dou Xian was convicted, the court repeatedly used relatives as generals to take charge of soldiers for more than 80 years after the emperor died. After the emperor died, he relied on eunuchs to establish a branch on the sidelines. The relatives and eunuchs attacked and killed each other, and the generals repeatedly failed to end well.
Dou Xian, Deng Qi and Yan Xian were all generals who had foreign martial arts, but they were unable to end well. The precedents were precedents in three consecutive dynasties. Later, the relationship between the young king and his relatives became increasingly powerful.
Not only did the young king push the eunuchs, but the chaos in the government also intensified. It also led to the fact that everyone who was a general and even held the emperor to control the government was in danger. They wanted to gain troops and autocracy to protect themselves. Liang Ji, He Jin, Dong Zhuo, Yuan Shao, and Cao Cao became more and more serious.
Since Liang Ji, those generals have only made their name to take charge of the government and have no contribution to the barbarians to resist foreign aggression. They were killed because of the power struggle, so they would not be able to be referenced and compared to themselves in later historical books.
However, Dou Xian had the merit of capturing Yanran Mountain, which was comparable to Wei Huo. After reading his history carefully, he was just a crime of domineering power, and rebellion might not be possible. Judging from Emperor He’s handling of Dou Xian, Dou Xian was not convicted by the court and was clear about the punishment of the righteous decree, but was just a result of Liang Tang, the Great Emperor who handled the case, and forced him to break it on his own.
I think that in the "Book of the Later Han" compiled by my younger brother and sister, I will re-revise the part of the comments made by the historian, emphasizing that Dou Xian will not die, but that Liang Tang and Dou Xian's two relatives fought against each other and forced them to death to show the fairness of the Han Dynasty. For the military officials who eliminated foreign aggression, they will be forgiven for treason without treason.
If it goes well, the comments on the Han Xin case by Han Xin's death in "Han Ji" and even the "Taishi Gongyan" added in "Historical Records Suoyin", emphasizing that "Han Xin will not die until his crimes, and Emperor Gaozu never ordered his execution, which seemed to have aggravated the punishment for Empress Lü."
In this way, we may save more of the kings and generals from later generations. As for the Ming Dynasty to re-define these ancient people, we should wait a few years before the world will be completely unified. Anyway, there is no need to worry about Yun Changyi De Zilong. What I am worried about is the military ministers appointed by the descendants of later generations and will not let go of their wives."
Liu Bei could not directly say that his ancestors were not good, but fortunately, the two examples he looked for could already be used to cover up his shame and repair them as much as possible.
From a legal perspective, Han Xin was indeed not ordered to kill him. At that time, he was fighting for war to conquer the rebels. Although it is possible that Lu Zhi's order was to guess Liu Bang's meaning, there is still a chance to come back here. (I will not discuss whether Han Xin has rebellion here, and it will be very long to expand. I agree with Professor Wang Liqun's analysis. When he was demoted to the Marquis of Huaiyin, he did not have the intention to rebel. Later, it can be said that there was a suspicion, but after all, it was the first time he was cut and forced to do so)
Dou Xian and Liang Tang, who forced him to death, can also be explained.
Because of the grudge between Empress Dowager Dou and Concubine Liang, it is a bit like the grudge between Empress He and Concubine Wang during the Emperor Ling. Empress Dowager Dou was the genuine empress dowager, but she had no son to inherit the throne. The son of Concubine Liang, who was suppressed by her, became Emperor He of Han (but the Empress Liang did not kill Concubine Liang like Empress He poisoned Concubine Wang. She took the blame and killed Concubine Liang and Liang Tang's father. Concubine Liang died of frightened and depressed).
Therefore, it is reasonable to say that Liang Tang wants to seek revenge on his younger brother who killed his father's enemy and force Dou Xian to death in private.
Liu Bei wanted to rehabilitate the people who have made great contributions to the war of unity and foreign wars, and show that they were better than military officials in later generations.
He was completely useless when he was alive. He felt that this would accumulate virtue for his descendants and make the military officials' suspicion of the emperor a little looser.
Of course, there is no need to rehabilitate those who have become generals purely because their relatives have become generals and have not made great contributions to foreign races. Whether they have rebelled or are killed just by being domineering is not important. The trust of military officials in the monarch will not be lost by thinking about the fate of these people.
For example, Liang Ji, a domineering general who was a foreign relative, did not do anything to fight against the outside world. Even if he did not want to usurp the Emperor Huan, he was just domineering and autocratic, and he would kill him if he killed him without explanation. Besides, Liang Ji was not killed by a clear conviction, but he committed suicide directly for fear of the crime. Moreover, Liang Ji was not guilty of killing Emperor Zhi.
Of course, the premise and operation of all this is based on the current environment in which Liu Bei is living. There was no precedent for generals to usurp the rebellion as emperors before the Chinese civilization, and there were very few precedents for emperors to kill meritorious generals, so they could still be repaired. (There are many examples of generals usurping the king and killing meritorious officials. They were all kings in the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period, not emperors. There was no one after the emperor system.)
If it is already in the Tang and Song dynasties, and there are too many historical burdens for bad precedents, then it's a big deal to repair it. Even if the monarch wants to repair it, Li Su will take the initiative to persuade him to give up. It's all rotten, and the patch area is larger than the original body, and it can't be repaired.
The history is too long, and sometimes it is also a burden. It will make everyone take part in the role, and then figure out whether the roles I have taken into it have ended well in history" to adjust their behavioral habits.
If you think too much, you have no intention of rebellion, because you have seen more tragic cases, your intention to kill gradually (the king and his minister have both problems, and they have intention of killing, not one-sided).
Li Su couldn't say whether he could make up for this state now, but if Liu Bei wanted to try it, it seemed that even if he couldn't do it, it wouldn't have any counterproductive effect, nor would he be said to "expose the shortcomings of his ancestors", which led to ideological confusion.
What's more, the two cases have been four hundred years and more than one hundred years respectively, which can be explained. It is indeed not the heroes ordered to be killed by the emperor himself. Just give it a try.
Liu Bei decided to teach his descendants in the future, read history books well, and read them by himself, and not let the doctor choose the key points to explain.
Those who were emperors, especially those born in the deep palace, had no understanding of society and did not know the sufferings of the people. If they did not learn from history, they would not understand the doubts of how to substitute and appease the ministers.
After arranging these, Liu Bei felt more and more regretful because he mentioned the rehabilitation of Han Xin just now.
Most of the political legacy left by Emperor Gaozu throughout his life was a political legacy, but here alone makes people sigh. Although Liu Bei also knew that it was not strong enough for Liu Bang to be orthodox back then, he was a little more ruthless. If the Liu family had been emperor for fifty or sixty years, there would be no need to be afraid of Han Xin.
Thinking of this, Liu Bei had two problems: "Before Boya, Emperor Gaozu and Han Xin, although there were no evil examples of military generals usurping the emperor and the emperor was afraid of the ability of meritorious officials and killing generals, there were still many examples of monarchs killing generals during the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period.
Then why can the hearts of the people in the world trust that this stability can be referenced forever as long as the monarch and general do not usurp and kill each other? Why don’t they learn from Goujian’s Wenzhong Fan Li?
If before Emperor Gaozu, Qin Shihuang no longer used the people too much, and with the orthodox Qin, could he have a stable world without killing the generals? During Qin Shihuang's lifetime, Wang Jian and others also had a good end. The death of Meng's family was also done by Hu Hai."
When Liu Bang thought of this step, he had completely entered the transition from "satisfactory" to "drunk", so he even began to say the assumption of sympathy with Qin Shihuang.
Of course, as the emperor of the Han Dynasty, he definitely did not hope that Qin Shihuang would continue to live. He just couldn't help but make an ideological experiment of "a monarch with sufficient orthodox nature, how to establish a system to appease military officials from generation to generation", thinking that he would use it for reference.
He only dared to ask this kind of thought experiment when there were no outsiders, otherwise it would be too harmful to the emperor's image.
Faced with Liu Bei's persistent pursuit of knowledge and comfort, Li Su decided to give up his fantasy and end today's discussion at the same time.
Li Su: "Your Majesty, the princes and kings are betrayal and go against their will, and they keep their bows in their bows. They do the same things as the emperor in the above three categories. The princes and kings are not the common rulers of the world. If there is no way, there are other countries in the world who punish them and punish the people and punish them.
Therefore, if a king is not authentic and has external forces to punish him, the people do not have to worry that the justice of heaven will not be upheld, and will not impose themselves as victims. They will only feel that the king will inevitably be abandoned by the people, their national strength will decline day by day, and they will eventually be destroyed by other princes.
Chapter completed!