Chapter 187 Want to pick peaches? Wang Hao: If you want to do it, do the main project!
While in the restaurant, Wang Jiming just had a brief discussion with Wang Hao and basically decided on the funding for the horizontal project.
Eight million.
This amount is definitely quite a lot, especially for a personal project.
Wang Jiming took Wang Hao to visit the experimental equipment related to double-kun casting and rolling, and explained at the same time, "There is a lot of experimental data, but it is not so large that it cannot be analyzed."
"The most important thing is that the data is complicated and affects too many parameters."
"We need to find a numerical balance."
He stopped here.
In terms of data analysis, Wang Jiming is a layman. He only briefly understands the situation. It is not very clear what the specific difficulties of data analysis are.
He found an expert in material calculations to explain data issues to Wang Hao.
Wang Hao listened very carefully and even checked on the computer and found that the total amount of data was indeed not very large.
Wang Jiming said that he conducted experiments for a year. In fact, the total number of experiments was only seven, and two of them were conducted directly on the factory production line. The data is relatively real and reliable.
However, because the entire production line has too many parameters related to adjustment, too many variables make it difficult to determine accurate values.
This is why they found two other teams and found no solution.
If you only do data mining related work and conduct rigorous analysis of the data, you can draw certain conclusions, but when it comes to real steel manufacturing, the conclusions drawn can be verified.
When the results are analyzed and the production line is debugged, it is found that there is no help. The result will definitely be embarrassing, and the brand may be ruined.
The average team would not dare to take on this kind of work.
After considering these factors, Wang Hao felt that the funding of 8 million was still too small.
Even he cannot guarantee 100% that the conclusions drawn through data analysis will be confirmed on the production line.
Wang Hao took a general look at the data, and after a brief understanding, he walked to the experimental equipment and asked Xiang, "My analysis has come to a certain conclusion. Can you help verify it?"
"It's definitely no problem to use experimental equipment. The factory's production line will apply for it." Wang Jiming said, "Delaying production is very costly. We conducted two experiments and they were both conducted during the off-season."
Wang Hao nodded understandingly, "I don't have the experimental conditions, so I can only rely solely on analysis. I may come to a conclusion halfway and verify it to be true and effective before I can continue."
Wang Jiming promised, "As long as we don't use the production line, there will be no problem."
Ding Zongquan came over and added, "We are doing research alone, and we don't know how much investment it will take. Professor Wang, I really owe it to you."
"This production line is very important to Wuhan Iron and Steel Co., Ltd. If the production line can be stabilized, achieve stable efficiency, and greatly reduce the defective rate, we will consider adding two identical production lines in the future."
Wang Jiming nodded as he listened, and then looked at Ding Zongquan, feeling a little weird again.
He had always felt that Ding Zongquan and Wang Hao had a bad relationship. There was no conflict, but they were definitely not close. But why did this guy seem to have his arms turned out when he spoke?
It's true that Wang Hao is a collaborator, but he can't always emphasize that his research is important, right?
After the results are achieved, will we need to increase funding in the future?
Wang Jiming couldn't help but twitch his lips.
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I went to the Wuhan Iron and Steel Research Institute, served as a project reviewer for the bidding, found out the problem with the alloy laboratory report, and helped Peng Hui win the project.
In the afternoon, we discussed another 8 million horizontal project with the research institute.
Wang Hao felt that he had gained a lot.
When he returned to the hotel in the evening, he lay down exhausted and fell asleep.
The next morning in the hotel restaurant, he met He Yi and others again, and went to the Science Foundation with them.
He Yi kept talking along the way, "Yesterday we started talking about the project situation. Let's cooperate with the Basic Science Center of Capital University."
"After listening to it all day yesterday, I feel confident. This project is a study of exchanged gravity, but the main direction is to conduct experiments, record data, and cooperate with the Basic Science Center to complete the most important mechanism analysis."
"Tens of millions of dollars are spent on continuous experiments and research."
Wang Hao was a little confused when he heard this, "Who told us to cooperate with the Basic Science Center?"
"Professor Deng Binghe." He Yidao, "They said the definition of this project is this."
"Why haven't I heard from Academician Wu?" Wang Hao frowned.
He Yi thought for a while and said, "Maybe it hasn't been mentioned yet, right?"
Wang Hao nodded and did not continue the topic.
He Yi asked about Wang Hao's visit to the Wuhan Iron and Steel Research Institute yesterday.
Wang Hao simply explained, "I just participated in a project review and talked about a horizontal project."
He Yi didn't care about the front, but when he heard about the project, he asked curiously, "Horizontal project? What project? Our school doesn't have the conditions to do the Wuhan Iron and Steel project, right?"
"It's a data analysis project."
"computer?"
"Mathematical computer." Wang Hao said, "It's the kind where they have a lot of data in their experiments, but it's difficult to analyze it, so they asked me to help analyze it."
He Yi felt mixed when he heard it. He asked, "Since it is a project, there is funding, right? This should be considered your personal property, right?"
"right?"
Before He Yi could say anything, Yan Jing asked curiously, "How much does it cost?"
"not much."
Wang Hao shook his head, not wanting to say anything more about funding.
Xiao Xinyu smiled and said, "Wang Hao, the funding is still confidential, tell me? How about I guess that this kind of data analysis project is estimated to cost 200,000 to 300,000, then I will guess 300,000."
He Yi and Yan Jing looked at Wang Hao together.
Wang Hao hesitated and said, "A little higher."
"Four hundred thousand?"
"Higher?"
Xiao Xinyu wondered, "How can such a personal project cost one million?"
"A little more than a million."
He Yi and Xiao Xinyu looked at each other, not knowing what to guess.
Yan Jing simply asked, "How much? Just tell me directly."
"Eight million."
Wang Hao said a number very calmly.
Yan Jing was stunned for a long time with her mouth half open, and sighed in confusion, "Is this more? The data analysis project you took on by yourself cost 8 million?"
He Yi and Xiao Xinyu were stunned for a long time. They didn't know what to say.
They worked hard as a laboratory for many years and finally applied for a project worth more than 2 million yuan. Wang Hao went to the Wuhan Iron and Steel Research Institute and negotiated a project worth 8 million yuan in just one day.
The project is still personal and not specific to a laboratory.
How does this make sense?
"It's not personal. I think it's a bit difficult to complete it by myself, so I need to find someone to help me."
Wang Hao thought about it and said, "Just ask Zhang Zhiqiang. Professor Qi Xiao can also do it. I have two students who can also help. This kind of research may not be fruitful."
"Actually, I don't really want to take it on. I already have enough projects in hand."
He said and shook his head.
There was silence all the way, and everyone's mood was very complicated.
Fortunately, we arrived at the Science Foundation soon.
In recent days, the Superconductivity Office of the Science Foundation has been discussing research directions related to AC gravity and related issues with other superconducting research.
The latter is very important.
No theoretical project exists alone. Research on the mechanism of superconductivity is a big direction. Many institutions are doing related research, and there is definitely a correlation between them.
The same goes for today’s content.
Because Wang Hao did not arrive yesterday, I asked him to express his views at the beginning of the morning discussion, that is, to share his ideas on research directions related to gravity experiments.
Wang Hao briefly talked about it, generally speaking, experiments were carried out using a variety of materials and material-related differences were analyzed.
In addition, the same material can change the structural layout of the superconducting material to study the changes in AC gravity. Different materials can also perform the same experimental comparative analysis.
These are directions that will definitely produce results.
What follows is a series of discussions where everyone can express their opinions and communicate with each other.
The meeting is just a simple discussion. The purpose is to think, think, and demonstrate together, record and summarize the content, and put it together for discussion.
The formal meeting will not be held until next week, and the content of the meeting will be prepared before that.
Now is also a part of preparation.
At the end of the morning's discussion, Deng Bingcheng concluded, "The study of superconducting mechanisms in the direction of AC gravity and the study of high-temperature superconducting mechanisms are repeatable."
"So if the physics laboratory assists in cooperating with the Capital University Basic Science Center project and communicates and exchanges data together, the possibility of producing results will be greater."
Deng Bingcheng's summary made Wang Hao frown. Thinking about what He Yi said about 'cooperating with the Basic Science Center', he felt that something was wrong.
When it was time to eat at noon, Wang Hao pulled Fan Qing to ask, "What does Deng Bingcheng mean by assisting and cooperating with the Basic Science Center?"
"Professor Wang, you ask this!"
Fan Qingxue said, "We have discussed before that your project is also studying the mechanism of superconductivity. It is very similar to the project of the Basic Science Center, but the direction and methods are different."
"So, it is best for you to have a process of information communication and exchange. It will be easier to achieve results if you work together."
This is understandable.
Wang Hao continued to ask, "Since we are communicating together, why are we the 'auxiliary and cooperative' party?"
"Major and minor projects!"
Fan Qingxue explained, "There are some general projects that need to be prioritized. Otherwise, they are all equal, and it is hard to say how much communication can be achieved."
"What are we going to do with our auxiliary cooperation?" Wang Hao still didn't understand.
Fan Qingxue said, "Data sharing, experimental cooperation, etc., that's the main thing."
“Will their data be shared with us?”
"of course not."
Fan Qingxue shook his head and said, "They are the main project, you are the sub-project, and the sub-project shares data with the main project."
He said in a low voice, "Actually, I don't support this way of division, because many people think that the two projects only have different research and development directions, but the purpose is the same, so they want to merge and study together, and more
It’s easy to get results.”
"However, there are also problems. One-way data sharing from sub-projects to the main project is actually equivalent to sharing results to a certain extent. Experiments also need to be coordinated, which is equivalent to being controlled by others."
"Of course, Professor Wang, I'm not trying to sow discord, this is just the way it is."
Wang Hao asked, "Why are they the main project? How was this determined? Or has it already been decided?"
"That's not true."
Fan Qingxue said, "Right now we are just studying and discussing, everything still has to wait for the formal meeting."
"but……"
He shook his head and said, "Because many people support this approach, it is not easy for you to fight for independent projects. At least you must prove that your direction is independent, or prove that your direction is more important than the direction of the Basic Science Center."
Wang Hao nodded thoughtfully.
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Of course Wang Hao is not willing to do a ‘secondary project’. The primary and secondary projects say they share data together, but in fact, the data is shared in one direction.
They have done a "sub-project", which is equivalent to continuing the superconducting project of the Basic Science Center. They have to cooperate with each other in experiments, and their autonomy will be limited. It can be said that they are controlled by others.
Because the data direction is shared, the results are also shared to a certain extent.
That's the problem.
After Wang Hao returned to the hotel, he said seriously to the other three people, "Our project cannot be affiliated with the project of the Capital University Basic Science Center."
"I will never accept this."
"If this is the result of the final discussion, we will not want the project and let them give it directly to the Basic Science Center."
He Yi and Xiao Xinyu were both a little surprised when these words were spoken.
When they heard that they wanted to do a project, they thought it was strange, but when they thought about it carefully, it seemed okay to be affiliated with Capital University's project.
In fact, there are benefits. The advantage is that there is not much pressure.
Of course Wang Hao doesn't think so. He is not doing projects for the sake of doing projects, but for real research, hoping to make discoveries from the research.
In this case, what is the point of losing the autonomy of research?
He is not a machine, and the project funds are not given to him personally.
He Yi thought for a moment and said, "Then what should we do? Wang Hao, we all listen to you."
"Yes, I listen to you. You are the person in charge. Without you, we wouldn't even have a chance to compete for the project." Xiao Xinyu also followed.
Yan Jing naturally supports Wang Hao.
Wang Haodao, "If someone asks us to do another project again, you can talk about exchanging the results of gravity experiments."
"Our results are the best. Their results are very different from ours. Why are they the main project?"
"The project is led by the Science Foundation, not the Basic Science Center."
"The tone must be set. If we don't speak up, they will take it as acquiescence. Then we will not only be doing a project, but will be controlled by others, and the funds will be much less!"
Wang Haodao, "We should also pay attention to next week's meeting, and I will prepare well."
He said it very seriously.
I originally thought it would be very easy to attend a conference. I just went through the process and then took the funds and started doing research. However, someone actually proposed some affiliated project?
Basic science center?
Do you have any skills that would allow us to cooperate with you in experimental research?
I just finished writing a section and am sorting out the outline, so it’s more difficult, sorry.