Chapter 188 War of words at the seminar, Wang Hao: I look forward to it
Cooperation from the Basic Science Center!
Project autonomy is the bottom line.
If it is just a "sub-project" in name only, it is also research on the mechanism of superconductivity, and it is also acceptable to focus on larger projects from other institutions.
The current ‘sub-project’ is a sub-project in the true sense.
The priorities are clear.
The AC Gravity Project of the Physics Laboratory serves as part of the Superconducting Mechanism Research Project of the Center for Basic Science.
This part still loses its autonomy. The most unacceptable aspects are two aspects. One is that it needs to cooperate with the research of the Basic Science Center to conduct experiments, which is equivalent to losing the freedom of experiment.
When a project loses its freedom of experimentation and is directed to conduct research, it only serves as an experimental machine. What’s the point?
If they want to conduct independent experiments, they have to apply to the Basic Science Center, completely losing the space for independent research.
At the same time, it will also lead to funding constraints.
This is probably one of the reasons why many people in the Superconducting Office agree with this approach.
Funding for affiliated projects is definitely limited. A project that could have been allocated 50 million yuan would only have 30 million yuan left once it was affiliated.
In addition, one-way sharing of experimental data is unacceptable.
To a certain extent, one-way data contribution is equivalent to handing over the results to the basic science center. Even if the main research is still done by them, the basic science center will share the results without any problems, and can continue based on the results of the physics laboratory.
experiment.
If it were He Yi, Xiao Xinyu and others, they wouldn't be too resistant, because the physics laboratory is indeed very small, and both the research and development level of the personnel and the experimental conditions are far inferior to those of the Basic Science Center.
To put it bluntly, they want to get funding. With funding support, they can conduct experiments, produce results, and expand the scale of the laboratory.
This is generally true for small laboratories.
Normal affiliated projects are beneficial to the physics laboratory, provided that the physics laboratory cannot produce great results on its own.
However, when Wang Hao joined the project, the premise was not established.
What Wang Hao cannot accept the most is the first one. Losing project autonomy means losing the meaning of continuing research and development.
He has no need for funding or development of a laboratory.
In terms of data sharing, what he initially thought was that both parties could share normal data. You share it with me, and I will share it with you. We share it on an equal footing. It doesn’t matter even if we suffer a little loss. After all, everyone is doing it for superconductivity.
Mechanism research efforts.
One direction is completely unacceptable.
On the contrary, he even thinks that the physics laboratory should be the main project institution, because they are a new direction, and the new direction has new potential, and it is not sure how much potential it has.
The potential of the Superconductivity Project of the Center for Basic Science can be seen.
In fact, their project is similar to the research of the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences, with the purpose of studying the mechanism of high-temperature superconductivity.
The research at the Superconducting Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences is conducted using an international cooperation model. After more than ten years, a lot of results have been achieved, but it only increased the temperature of high-temperature superconducting materials by more than ten K, which is still conventional.
For high-temperature superconducting materials, there is no qualitative breakthrough in the theory of the underlying superconducting mechanism.
Therefore, it is difficult to say how much progress the Basic Science Center’s research will make.
Wang Hao shook his head in thought and began to prepare for the meeting. He wanted to find a new research direction.
This research direction has been thought out for a long time, but he just has not summarized it. He originally thought that after starting a new project, he would start systematic research in the general direction.
Now it seems that we must move forward.
Create a task——
【Task 3】
[Research project name: Constructing a mathematical model of the superconducting mechanism based on AC gravity experimental data (Task difficulty: C).]
[Inspiration value: 0.]
"C-level? Not bad..."
Wang Hao looked at the mission level and breathed out softly.
If it is to construct a mathematical model of the superconducting mechanism, the difficulty must be at S level or S+ level. 'Based on the AC gravity experimental data', the difficulty will naturally be greatly reduced.
After establishing the mission, he began to look at the experimental data on communication gravity, and a lot of the data was already in his mind.
Making mathematical models based on data still requires systematic analysis.
This is not like solving an equation, but you must have a precise grasp of the data and find out the mathematical logic contained in it.
Overall, it is a fragmented and complicated study.
…
The next day, the work was still the same.
In the morning, several people went to the Nature Foundation together.
There were more people attending the meeting that day, because people from the Superconducting Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences and the Center for Basic Science also sent people.
When new people meet, they naturally exchange pleasantries.
The people coming to the Basic Science Center are mainly Professor Jiang Jian, who is one of the researchers on the high-temperature superconducting mechanism project and once worked at the Institute of Physics of the Academy of Sciences.
The visitors from the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences were led by a female professor in her fifties named Hong Junjuan. There were three of them, which was equivalent to representing the Superconductivity Laboratory.
This meeting has little to do with the Superconducting Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences. They only came to attend because they participated in the AC Gravity follow-up project.
Unfortunately, the research results of Xiang Qiansheng's team are far inferior to those of physics laboratories.
After Hong Junjuan shook hands with Wang Hao and got acquainted, she also smiled and said, "I didn't expect that, Professor Wang, you, a great mathematician who is about to win the Fields Award, can even do superconducting research."
"I asked Professor Xiang before I came, but he was too embarrassed to tell me. I probably won't see him until the day of the meeting."
Wang Hao was stunned for a moment, then smiled curiously, "Professor Hong, if you say this, if word spreads, Professor Xiang won't blame you?"
"He's so weird!"
Hong Junjuan waved her hands indifferently and said, "I always say whatever I have to say. This is the case. I still know Professor Xiang's level. He is convinced that he lost!"
"The same goes for the Basic Science Center. We are also involved in their projects, and everyone knows what level they are at."
She seemed to have noticed that there were people from the Basic Science Center behind her, and she even raised her voice, "Some people just don't realize it. If they lose, they lose. Why are they still doing little things behind their backs?"
“After living for such a long time, I don’t have any dignity at all!”
Jiang Jian, who was walking over, turned a little dark when he heard this.
Of course he knew who Hong Junjuan was talking about.
Of course, it's not him. His influence is not enough to make decisions on tens of millions of dollars in projects.
Hong Junjuan was mocking Wang Chenglin.
Wang Chenglin is the person in charge of the major superconducting project at the Center for Basic Science.
Even though he was not talking about himself, because he came on behalf of the Technical Science Center, he still felt very uncomfortable. He could only pretend to know nothing, "Professor Hong, Professor Wang, what are you talking about? Are you smiling so happily?"
"It means a bad old man who is doing little things behind his back."
"Who? Who could make you so angry?"
"That's hard to say. I don't know who I am angry with. It has nothing to do with me anyway. You should talk to Professor Wang." Hong Junjuan curled her lips and walked away, and emphasized, "This year's mathematics
At the family conference, Professor Wang will definitely win the Fields, he is the future of our country’s scientific community!”
"That's, that's..."
Jiang Jian thought that a good man would not fight with a woman, so he could only hold this anger in his heart.
He and Wang Hao exchanged a few words, and the discussion almost started.
Wang Hao heard something from Hong Junjuan's words. Even the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences knew that the AC Gravity Experiment Affiliation Project was related to the Basic Science Center. Naturally, it could not be decided by the Superconductivity Office alone.
Otherwise, why can't the AC gravity experiment be affiliated with the project of the Superconducting Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences?
Both projects are similar.
Most of the discussions on this day were carried out normally. Until four o'clock in the afternoon, Deng Bingcheng summarized the meeting and talked about affiliated projects. He did not directly say "primary and secondary projects", but
Emphasizing the research on communication gravity experiments is of great significance to promoting the research and development of basic science center projects.
After Deng Bingcheng finished his speech, Yan Jing suddenly stood up and asked, "Professor Deng, according to your statement, the research on communication gravity is meaningful for the research and development of the Basic Science Center project, but similarly, the research of the Basic Science Center is for the research on communication gravity.
It also has great significance. What I said is correct, right?"
"Of course."
"That's right."
Others in the venue also nodded.
This is a discussion forum for scholars, not a formal meeting. Everyone can speak, and of course you can put forward different opinions.
Yan Jing continued, "Why do you only talk about the former and not the latter?"
"this……"
Deng Bingcheng didn't expect Yan Jing to ask this question. He didn't know how to answer it for a while. After thinking about it, he simply said, "The project of the Basic Science Center has already started, and the exchange gravity project is still under review."
"Then you can't emphasize it unilaterally? I heard that you plan to link our project to the project of the Basic Science Center?" Yan Jing asked straightforwardly.
Deng Bingcheng said, "Isn't it normal for primary and secondary projects? Basic research and development are all integrated. Only by sharing data, research progress, and referencing each other can we make more progress in basic research."
“It’s impossible to expect a single organization to complete such a broad-scale basic project, right?”
Yan Jing asked, "Then why are we not the main project? They are the main project? In the direction of communicating gravity, we were the ones who successfully replicated the experiment, and subsequent comparative experiments also made our results more outstanding."
"this……"
Deng Bingcheng was a little confused about how to answer. He wanted to say that the Basic Science Center belongs to Capital University, and has a project fund of 1.8 billion, with abundant scientific research resources and high-level scientific research capabilities.
But, how to say?
If you think about it carefully, you will know that if you say this, the other party will definitely refute, why are they so good, but their achievements in communicating the direction of gravity are not as outstanding as ours?
Deng Bingcheng felt that he could not bear the pressure by himself.
He immediately looked at Jiang Jian from the Basic Science Center, because it was the Basic Science Center that initially proposed to 'merge' the exchange of gravity direction research with the Basic Science Center project.
Many people looked at Jiang Jian.
Jiang Jian also knew what he should say. He simply stood up and said, "This...Professor Yan, you don't need to be too anxious. This matter has not been decided yet. It is just a discussion."
"Everyone is doing research on the mechanism of superconductivity, so there must be some cooperation. The method of cooperation is negotiable."
"Even if you want to decide on the main project or sub-project, it depends on the comparison of the main research directions. If you can come up with a better and more promising direction, even if it is for the sake of science, our Basic Science Center will definitely provide full cooperation!"
Jiang Jian's last sentence was sonorous and powerful.
His meaning was very clear, which was to compare research directions at the meeting.
In a formal meeting, the research direction and funding should be decided, and at the same time, the level should be judged based on academics.
The physics laboratory must come up with a formal research direction, which means specifying what kind of experiments will be done, what kind of analysis will be used to draw conclusions, how to deduce the theoretical mechanism of superconductivity, and what kind of results may be obtained.
These are all required to apply for a project.
Just like the alloy laboratory and metal experiment are horizontal projects competing with Wuhan Iron and Steel Co., Ltd., a concrete project report must be produced to explain how to conduct experiments, how to conduct research, what kind of foundation there is, etc.
The evaluator will make a decision on the project based on detailed information.
Others nodded when they heard Jiang Jian's words. The qualitative nature of the project still depends on the research itself, and everything will be based on academic comparison.
If there is no better research direction, it makes sense to be affiliated to other larger projects.
Of course.
AC gravity itself is a new direction, but because we are also doing research on superconducting mechanisms, the direction is limited.
In fact, the research on ‘communicative gravity’, which is classified as confidential, is the research on anti-gravity, which is a truly novel direction.
At this time, Wang Hao suddenly said, "Professor Jiang, is what you just said true?"
"What?" Jiang Jian was just about to sit down when he was stunned when he heard Wang Hao's question.
Wang Hao asked again, "You said that if we can find a better direction, the Basic Science Center will fully cooperate?"
"of course it's true."
"Can you represent the Basic Science Center?" Wang Hao was skeptical.
"this……"
Wang Hao's question made Jiang Jian a little embarrassed, but he still nodded seriously and said, "I am one of the applicants for the project, of course."
"That's good!"
Wang Hao looked at everyone, stood up and said, "Everyone heard it. Professor Jiang Jian just said that if we can come up with a better direction, the Basic Science Center is willing to cooperate with our research."
"I would also like to say here that if we can't come up with it, we are willing to cooperate with the project of the Basic Science Center."
"Then I'll see you at the meeting next week!"
After Wang Hao finished speaking, he looked at Jiang Jian again and walked out of the seminar with a smile.
Jiang Jian was half-sitting, and suddenly felt a little panicked when he was looked at.