Ye Hua: “I definitely don’t have time to talk about the specific theory of metabolism in this interview, and Professor Chen definitely has a better say than me when it comes to the specific theory of metabolism. So I will briefly mention my opinion. What is the difference between China’s plan and the West? In fact, I
It’s definitely not complete.”
Zhao Xin: "I would like to hear the details."
Ye Hua nodded: "First of all, I think Adam Smith's title is wrong about the country's wealth. In fact, we know that wealth is a virtual number, completely structured by power, but the really difficult thing is the increasingly detailed international labor
Division of labor, how to cooperate? The most difficult thing for railway workers is cooperation, especially during the peak period of Spring Festival travel. If this train comes and there is no call over there, and the two trains collide, it will be over. If you can't see the hand, then
Damn it.”
Zhao Xin: "Pfft... I just pinched off that part."
Ye Hua: "...So the real advancement of our Chinese plan lies in the increasingly developed international division of labor. I can say that the Chinese people's ability to coordinate, coordinate, and coordinate division of labor far exceeds that of Western developed countries, and of course exceeds that of other developing countries."
The country, so our characteristic is the coordination mechanism of division of labor and competition. For example, some Weibo public intellectuals and the 'Leading Party' shout about opening up every day, but how to open up? They don't talk about this and they don't know how to talk about it."
"So how do we Chinese people open up? Independent openness is not the forced openness of the Opium War, nor is it the dependent openness of Eastern Europe and the Philippines. Who do they rely on? The West, frankly speaking, is the United States. So where?
There is no middle-income trap, you only have the trap of relying on the economy.”
"Argentina was richer than the United States back then, but what happened? It became the first country in history to fall from a developed country to a developing country. Can you believe it? Now it relies on the U.S. economy, especially its finance. Such an economy will collapse.
Beat, go check out the inflation rate in Latin America.”
"So opening up does not mean success. Opening up may lead to faster death. Some big V's on Weibo, the so-called 'leading party'... they still call us to open up when the storm comes, then you must at least know that it is raining heavily.
To take shelter from the rain under the eaves, enter the harbor
Bay to take shelter from the wind. However, the strategy of a group of people in China is to remain unchanged in response to ever-changing changes. Opening up is enough. When the storm comes... shout open! The sun comes out... shout open! Even if you are still shouting open at night, you at least have to do it.
Keep pace with the times and adapt to local conditions.”
"Then I think China's independent opening-up is organically combined with the reform of the 'dual-track system'. What is the 'dual-track system'? We must take into account both stability and innovation."
Zhao Xin: "In terms of innovation, Mr. Ye, you may have the most say in technological innovation."
Ye Hua: "Whether it is technological innovation or other innovations, there is no doubt that your innovation must be a subversive process. Historically speaking, many subversive processes are accompanied by revolution, turmoil or the Great Depression, even if they are minor.
One thing, at least labor pains are unavoidable, right, so I think this invention of China is an unprecedented plan or experience, China’s plan, China’s experience.”
"It's a dual-track system!"
"While maintaining social stability, on the other hand, we are opening up the special zone. This time for the establishment of our 'Life Ray', wireless transmission technology, and unmanned autonomous driving technology, we chose to pilot it in the state, frankly speaking, in Dongxin District. We are here first
Give it a try for ten or eight years
, If you are competitive, then open it bigger. If you can't win, open it small. If it really doesn't work, kill it. I won't spread it across the country and cause social turmoil, right? So you think you have both stability and innovation, right? In fact, you have your cake and eat it too.
You can have both here, and this is the advantage of the dual-track system."
"You said that we Chinese people have created such a set of theories and contributed to the world. I think future history will prove the greatness of the Chinese plan. If we follow the theory of neoclassical economics and what kind of shock therapy, it will be over.
, it calls you to fully open up. You have to know that a super-large country like ours, with a population of 14.5 billion, is not allowed to make strategic mistakes. The price of that kind is unbearable or even unbearable."
"The key is to be independent and independent in opening up, rather than relying on opening up or even being forced to open up. If you rely on others, you will be controlled by others."
"Then why can we do whatever we want independently? The reason is very simple. We have an independent science and technology system and an independent national defense system, so we can only have an independent financial policy if we let nature take its own course. Our central bank policy is better than that of Germany and Japan.
Still independent, the reason is very simple, we don’t have any American garrison on our homeland, do you understand?”
Zhao Xin laughed and said: "To put it bluntly, we have a reliable big stick in our hands. Whoever messes with me has the ability to beat him back to his hometown."
Ye Hua nodded: "Yes, that's the truth. So I think that in the future, emerging market countries such as Latin America and the subcontinent will also use our Huaxia plan if they want to really take off."
"Another China is in the economy of scale and industrial cluster economy. Speaking of which, we Chinese people may not know the blessings despite the blessings. It is not unreasonable for foreigners to like Chinese food. There are more than a dozen kinds of dishes on our table, and Europe, America, etc.
It’s okay, if it’s just meat and not a few vegetables, it won’t work.”
"This represents China's biodiversity, and the large-scale production now implemented in the United States. The United States has the Great Plains, which is much larger than ours. Especially the large-scale production of food has destroyed local biodiversity, which is more dangerous than nuclear war.
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"The great changes in the global environment mean that the British-American model of division of labor has come to an end. People may not know the horror of the destruction of local biodiversity in the United States. Recently, foreign media have reported more and more about local rat diseases that can be transmitted to humans.
Chicken diseases can be transmitted to humans, and mad cow disease can be transmitted to humans. There has never been any animal cross-infection in history."
"This is caused by the American model. Why? If you put them in a single place on a large scale and you can't get sick? Then you have to take antibiotics. Now antibiotics have failed. This disgusting cycle, the continuous use of pesticides, is destroying the earth's ecological environment.
It even threatens human genes.”
"China's advantage is both economies of scale, because we are a super-large country, but the bigger advantage is that we have an extremely complex natural environment with many mountains and few plains. We have few plains and cannot be compared with the United States.
We are also smaller than India. Our country's geographical environment is complex and diverse, from west to east, from north to south. This environment has created our agriculture and developed a variety of crop operations, and then we can have whatever we want to eat.
Then it includes industrial products, home appliances, etc.”
"If you look at the domestic home appliance market, there are at least three to four times more varieties than in the American market. That's why Americans say they want to compete with us on an equal footing. Frankly speaking, we can't ask for more. If you open up... let's talk about cars, there are hundreds of them in the domestic market.
Car brands are competing, are they in the United States? No! There are hundreds of mobile phone manufacturers competing in China, are they in the United States? No! The market economic status of the United States relies on the technological hegemony and monopoly represented by semiconductors. I am the real one.
market economy, and now the semiconductor monopoly has been broken.”
"The intensity of competition in China's market economy is the highest in the world. It's not an exaggeration to describe it as brutal. For example, doesn't the mobile phone industry have a 'Red Sea' concept? It's brutal, right? Which of the famous brands now is not fighting for it?"
? And I don’t dare to say that I can survive tomorrow, how tragic it will be.”
"How do you call us a non-market economy status? So Americans say that we don't refute and ignore it. It doesn't mean that you say there is no market economy status without it. This is simply a fact that does not depend on personal will. What are you refuting?
strength?"
"So China has both economies of scale and industrial cluster economies, such as the Pearl River Delta, the Yangtze River Delta, etc. If you place an order for any missing parts, we can provide you with a one-stop package. We are the only country in the world with a complete industrial system, the only one.
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"Then I am very optimistic that the United States, Europe, Japan and South Korea will not be able to compete with China. If the trade war continues, this is the reason why we must win. It is not because I am Chinese or because of my ideology."
"Another one is that our learning ability is actually more important than capital and labor. Therefore, China is developing so fast not because of the large amount of capital or the young and abundant labor force, but because it learns quickly. Why?"
"I think it is precisely the Western blockade of China. During the embargo, a large number of engineers were trained and knew how to do reverse engineering. They bought a piece of German equipment and dismantled it for you. After dismantling it, they could build a new one and make it better.
If your original goods are good and cheap, then of course your property rights and competitive advantages will be taken away by me."
"Some people scornfully say that we are a copycat, or more directly accuse us of stealing technology. Can you make it for India? Can you make it for the Philippines? In fact, the government is forcing the people to turn good girls into prostitution."
Zhao Xin blinked her eyes when she heard his last sentence. It sounded strange, but Ye Hua reacted quickly and said immediately: "Uh no, of course I am not a prostitute, but you are forcing the people to rebel. But in fact,
It makes sense to force good people into prostitution. Many companies say that they are copycats. They are originally good people and you forced them to do so. Why? Because of patents
Pricing is differentiated pricing. Enterprises in developing countries should charge lower patent fees, but the United States bullies us to charge higher patent fees than developed countries, not to mention that the products are inferior, so you are the one who forced us to copycat some equipment.
We were even willing to be ripped off and you didn't sell it, but fortunately we kept up the good work and did a good job in reverse engineering."
"Then you can ask our companies not to copycats, of course, and to compete on an equal footing. This is the minimum. Then do you dare to announce how much you charge companies in developed countries in patent fees, and compare it with how much our companies charge? Even if we are equal and lower
In developed countries, the level is much lower than it is now. They dare not publish the data. That is definitely an outrageous figure."
"The WSIO World Semiconductor Industry Organization, which we took the lead in establishing, has a special principle that stipulates that preferential supplements will be provided to enterprises in markets in underdeveloped regions. You can read the contents of the WSIO Agreement for this."
"So don't say that the truth is all yours, and then you take advantage of it. Everyone knows it in their hearts, and it won't sound good if you say it out loud."
"Then the last one is that only a far-sighted government can have long-term infrastructure construction and the basic soil for development. The West is talking about it every day. A bill has been overturned and discussed again, and it has been overturned again and again. What kind of power grid and high-speed rail should be built?
Waiting for a long-term super project? You build the high-speed rail and I will transport it by air.
If the business is affected, this interest group will definitely oppose it. Even if the hotel business income goes down, they will also oppose it. The nearby residents will not do it because of the line selection. The noise will cause the value of surrounding real estate to decrease. It doesn't matter, some people will also not do it. They have nothing to do with me.
Why should the benefits cost my taxpayers’ money? Objection!”
"So you see, the West wants to carry out a major infrastructure project and has been talking about it for ten or eight years."
At the end, Zhao Xin was finally satisfied and stopped asking questions. She smiled and said, "Thank you very much, Mr. Ye, for letting us see the world from your perspective through this exclusive interview."
