The forum was in an uproar. Many participants who were sitting in the audience and thought they were here to listen to the cross talk became energetic. They exchanged opinions in low voices and confirmed the identity of the young man on the stage again. "No wonder.
You are scolding someone so harshly from Ningyuan Fourth Central Hospital! Their hospital is a major emergency center, right?"
To be honest, in various seminars in the past, some of the guests mocked each other because of their differences in opinions, some of them tried to undermine each other, and some of them directly declared that the other party was uneducated, unskilled, and had bad conduct. But at least they were still "literary grudges."
In the category of people like Sun Lien, he opened his mouth and directly called "idiot", and scolded three people in one breath. He has never been heard of, let alone heard.
Originally, these three people on the stage spoke freely, but in fact they offended many people. Those sitting in the audience were not only employees from private medical companies, but also many people from public hospitals and professional colleges came to listen to the lecture. Everyone originally
I planned to come here to hear my understanding and opinions on this new model of diagnostic center. Who knew that the three people on the stage started firing directly at the public hospital, and they kept firing non-stop. We agreed on social medical care.
What about the establishment and process of institutional diagnostic centers?
Going off-topic in a seminar is always a very annoying thing. It is really too much to go off-topic and return the map cannon. Everyone in the audience was originally planning to leave directly, but when they saw Sun Lien opening his mouth and scolding, they suddenly became interested. Some
The busybody even took out his mobile phone to inform his companions who were not at the venue, "Come to the main venue and have a look, the doctor in the public hospital is swearing!"
Sun Lien was actually really angry. Especially in this environment, he himself represented the image of the Fourth Central Hospital, which required him to be polite and polite when swearing.
Smile, the more you scold me, the angrier you get.
After all, he is a 25-year-old young man. Although he is not as energetic as when he was in his early 20s, the pressure and conflicts he usually encounters in hospital work, coupled with the continuous misunderstanding and hostility in the surrounding environment, make Sun Lien feel uncomfortable.
They were all holding back their anger. But the work was too busy, and the family members he met were really pitiful. Sun Lien really had no place to release this evil fire. Now, three blind bastards directly bumped into the muzzle of the gun.
If he didn't seize this God-given opportunity, Sun Lien would be able to skin himself.
"First of all, I want to say sorry to all the participants." When Sun Lien spoke, the three speakers who were scolded as "idiots" suddenly changed their faces. Professor Pan even stood up from his seat, as if ready to
It was a physical debate. But the staff maintaining order at the scene surrounded him as if they had been notified in advance. Sun Lien did not even look at what was going on on the stage. He just
He sincerely apologized to the people watching the excitement in the audience, "Xiao Sun, I have not done much research on the setup and process issues of the diagnostic center. I came to the meeting today. I originally planned to sit in the audience and be taught. But the organizer of the meeting
There may have been some mistakes in the process. I was put on the stage as an expert and scholar and had to speak. But that’s okay. If I had been left in the audience to listen to these three idiots talking nonsense, I might have been so angry that I had a brain hemorrhage.
."
There was a burst of understanding and gentle laughter from the audience.
"Well, since I said you are idiots." Sun Lien turned around and looked at the three "experts" surrounded by people. He smiled and turned towards the audience and said, "Then there must be some evidence. Regarding the speeches of the three just now,
, I made a record. Let’s talk about it one by one. I believe that the truth is always more powerful than glib words.”
"First, this is what Professor Pan said, and I will quote it here, 'The government's support for public hospitals is too great, and the procurement of medical equipment is excessively seeking perfection, innovation, and price.'" Sun Lien said from the notebook.
Shang moved his eyes away and glanced at the quiet audience in the audience. "I have a question in response to this question. Is it better to use government funds to purchase outdated, cheap treatment equipment that has been proven useless by the modern medical community?
Is it a crime to waste tax dollars?”
The audience in the audience began to laugh.
"As for the excessive support." Sun Lien shook his head, "Public hospitals bear the greatest pressure on medical treatment in the entire medical system. And those patients with the most complex diseases and the most dangerous conditions will come to public hospitals for treatment instead of going to
What kind of private hospital is it? For example, in the past month, the emergency department of our Ningyuan Fourth Central Hospital alone has received one patient with multiple Toxoplasma infections, one adult patient with abdominal cardiac ectopia, and seven patients with organic
Patients with phosphorus poisoning." Sun Lien paused, looked at the audience and said seriously, "The treatment and diagnosis of these patients are only possible with the equipment of our hospital and the cooperation of many medical staff. There is no government support and no funds.
Tilt, we can't possibly save their lives."
"Second, Professor Pan also said that funds are only allocated to public hospitals, and that the 'centers' that have sprung up are the result of political achievements."
Sun Lien sighed, "I used to think that Professor Pan was probably just paid to speak for others, but now it seems that I may have mistaken him. He is not speaking out of conscience, he is just stupid."
More and more listeners poured in from the two gates, but the scene still maintained a quiet atmosphere. But after hearing this, Sun Lien once again received a lot of laughter.
"Stroke and myocardial infarction are both diseases with extremely high mortality and disability rates, but through rapid rescue and treatment, the sequelae can be greatly reduced. The two centers established by the hospital are to allow patients with these two diseases to
A measure to treat patients with the disease as quickly as possible. Once a patient shows qualifying symptoms, he will be quickly sent to the center and then receive treatment as quickly as possible according to the established process. This measure has saved countless lives and saved
I don’t know how many families there are. So, yes, this is indeed a political achievement project. For public hospitals and our medical system, saving lives is the biggest political achievement." Sun Lien turned towards Professor Pan who was surrounded so much that he couldn't even see his hair.
He spread his hands and said, "As long as the people can benefit, I don't think there is any problem in pursuing political achievements."
"But then Professor Pan started to fabricate facts. Private hospitals don't have emergency departments? That's just because they didn't apply to the relevant departments for establishment. In fact, many private hospitals in China have emergency departments. But the emergency department is really
They don't make money, so private hospitals are not very motivated to set up departments."
"As for allocating funds to public hospitals." Sun Lien suddenly changed his subject, "The breakfast shop downstairs of my house closed down some time ago. It is said that the reason was that the capital chain was broken. Should the government also allocate some funds to this breakfast shop?"
There was a bit of a silence in the audience, and many people still didn't realize why Sun Lien suddenly mentioned the issue of the breakfast shop.
"Private hospitals are essentially a business. Capital is all about profit. To put it crudely, some people do the business of beheading, but no one does the unprofitable business. Although they are also hospitals, private hospitals and
Emphasizing public welfare, non-profit public hospitals are different. They are for-profit institutions." Sun Lien picked up the water glass from the stage, took a sip of water, and moistened his throat, "The government allocates free funds to private for-profit institutions? This kind of
It doesn’t make sense from a legal perspective or from a social perspective.”
Sun Lien continued to talk. His notebook did record a lot of ridiculous remarks made by the first three experts. However, many of the arguments were repetitive and could be answered in one sentence. Sun Lien did not want to talk about them again.
"The second expert who spoke on stage... I'm sorry, I didn't remember his name at all." Sun Lien scratched his head in embarrassment, "Please understand that it is very difficult to concentrate on their absurd words.
work."
"His main arguments are, first, that public hospitals excessively pursue bed turnover rates, resulting in many patients having to be discharged before they are completely cured. Private medical care can provide the most 'private' treatment plan."
"I just said that public hospitals are under the greatest pressure in the entire medical system. So how much pressure is there exactly? This year's data shows that among medical institutions across the country, private medical institutions account for 63.5% of the total, but patients who seek treatment in private medical institutions
But only 14.8%. This is only the number of outpatient and emergency patients. If statistics are conducted on inpatients, the difference will be even greater. The total number of beds provided by private hospitals is less than one-third of that of public hospitals."
"In other words, public hospitals need to help 80% of patients with less than 40% of the number of institutions and limited medical resources. Under these conditions, if public hospitals do not pursue high turnover of hospital beds, the result will be a serious shortage of hospital beds.
. And patients who need hospitalization need a longer waiting period." Sun Lien paused and emphasized, "Other patients' rights to receive treatment should be greater than those of patients who have been cured or are close to being cured. As for the so-called 'privatization'
For treatment options, if patients need it, they will naturally choose private hospitals, even if your charges are higher, and the treatment effects may be similar to ours. But I have indeed seen many patients who simply cannot afford the high cost of treatment. Sometimes we want to
They will reject drugs that have better therapeutic effects but have not yet been included in the medical insurance list. Sometimes they will even refuse treatment because of such things and go home to wait for death." Sun Lien's eyes turned a little red, "Such a patient will not be treated personally.
Treatment options are unlikely to be of interest."
The atmosphere at the scene was a bit heavy.
"Second, patients diagnosed in public hospitals cannot receive adequate treatment, and doctors in public hospitals are serious about demanding bribes."
Sun Lien looked up at the many audience members in the audience, and shook his head helplessly. He turned to look at the rostrum where he had sat down again, and said seriously to the second expert who spoke, "You may be living in a dream."
"The establishment of departments and scope of practice of private hospitals need to be reviewed and approved by the National Health Commission. The larger the scope, the more difficult it is to get approval. Moreover, many departments are more difficult to treat and have fewer patients. Few private hospitals can compete with public hospitals.
Like large tertiary hospitals, they have complete departments. There may be no department that can receive the diagnosed patients. In this case, do you have the nerve to say that private hospitals do better than public hospitals? "
"As for the part about asking for bribes, do you know the reporting hotline? If you can find a doctor asking for bribes, please call and report to the relevant departments. We also welcome patients who come to see us to help us find these bad apples."
"Third, it is difficult for public hospitals to make two-way referrals. I have to say that you did tell the truth." Sun Lien then changed the topic, seeming to ease the atmosphere. "The hospital bed turnover rate just mentioned is too high, which mainly reflects
In tertiary-level hospitals, second-level hospitals in many places are worried about the high vacancy rate of hospital beds. As a doctor, I also hope that my patients will be transferred to another hospital when their condition is stable and the second-level hospitals have sufficient capacity to treat them. But
This kind of thing is not something I have the final say on. The referral process needs to be carried out by the patients themselves, and many patients think that since I am discharged from the hospital, it means they are cured." Sun Lien sighed, "The Shanghai filmed in the previous documentary
The city's Ruijin Hospital received a patient with Cushing's syndrome. After the condition was under control, the doctor recommended that he go to a second-grade hospital to continue hospitalization. As a result, the patient did not go and recuperated at home. In the end, he passed away due to complications."
The atmosphere seemed to be a little more solemn.
"Referral requires the patient's cooperation. But this is not a reason for you to attack public hospitals." Sun Lien continued, "Next, let's talk about the content of Mr. Zhang's speech."
"Mr. Zhang, your speech is quite special. Compared with those experts who know nothing, you are much smarter than them. They are basically talking nonsense from beginning to end, and you are lying."
"Private hospitals have higher expenses than public hospitals? Do you have to pay value-added tax? Don't be kidding. The tax items of private hospitals are exactly the same as those of public hospitals. All medical services do not need to pay tax. Those who need to pay value-added tax are only those who have not paid tax."
It's just selling drugs after obtaining a prescription, and 'providing non-medical services'. Does your hospital pay VAT? Does that mean that you provide many unnecessary services to patients?" Sun Lien had the deepest dislike for Zhang Yi.
The first two experts can be said to be stupid, but Zhang Yi is downright bad. Therefore, he spent the most time refuting Zhang Yi.
"As for advertising expenditures, Mr. Zhang mentioned online promotion and film and television advertising. First of all, these two promotion methods are expressly prohibited. Whether you use bidding rankings, online medical care, or illegal placement of films and television
Advertisements are all illegal. According to my inquiry, your company has received twenty-five penalty notices from the Capital Industry and Commerce Department in the past five years. Each of them is a fine for illegal publicity." Sun Lien said to the audience.
He turned on his mobile phone and said, "Your company's advertising expenditures are mainly used to pay fines, right?"