Different from Chen Yi's big and simple measures, Wang Ao's measures can be said to hit the point.
If the first two are considered mild, then the last two are simply a dagger, pointing directly at the power of remonstrance in the hands of Ke Dao.
Of these two measures, one restricts the discussion of the affairs of the DPRK and China, and the other is more direct, which is equivalent to directly taking back the right of remonstrance in the hands of ordinary Kedao officials.
It is conceivable that once these words spread, they will inevitably cause an uproar.
Even in the current small area, after Wang Ao's words fell, several ministers present also started talking in low voices.
After pondering for a moment, Chen Yi spoke.
"What the Lord Chief Minister has said is indeed easy to implement. However, our government has always advocated smooth communication and prohibited discussion of important court affairs. Wouldn't it block the communication channel?"
"Furthermore, the right to remonstrate has existed since ancient times. It may be inappropriate to rashly ban science and remonstrate with the emperor."
"According to the theory of the first assistant, if you want to correct the emperor in Shizhong and the censor, you need to ask all the officials above the censor in Shizhong or Qiandu to play together."
"The original intention of this move is to reduce the fuss made by those who seek fame and reputation. I can understand it, but has the chief assistant ever considered that with so many restrictions, the best choice for science and technology officials is actually to hide
Instead of playing."
"Wouldn't this run counter to His Majesty's original intention of changing the atmosphere of officialdom?"
Even though Chen Zongxian was vague when he proposed solutions, when he raised objections, he was very clear and concise.
Wang Ao's core idea in these articles is, to put it bluntly, to limit some of Ke Dao's powers.
Especially the last article, which imposes various restrictions on the right to remonstrate, seems to be a well-designed one, but in fact, it has a huge flaw.
That is, all the designs he mentioned are based on the will of the emperor to correct the emperor's mistakes.
Therefore, if you want to break Wang Ao's design, it is actually very simple, just do nothing.
But this is obviously not the result they want.
After all, there is at least one thing that they and the emperor can agree on, that is, the purpose of rectifying the science and education is not to cover the mouths of officials and make them lose their role in admonishing the emperor, but to use this power to
Restrictions were put in place to prevent the abuse of power, so that the officials could not only correct the emperor, but also focus more energy on the affairs of the court.
Faced with Chen Yi's doubts, Wang Ao frowned and said.
"I disagree with what the General Constitution said."
"The so-called smooth way of speech refers to the ability of officials to directly reach Heaven without being blocked by other officials, but it does not mean that they can discuss all matters of the court at will."
"The purpose of the imperial court to spread the word is to pool ideas, but among all the officials, only Ke Dao has the tradition of reporting on rumors."
"The superposition of the two resulted in the fact that when faced with the imperial government's major affairs, Kedao officials often made rash comments without careful consideration and thought. In fact, the Yushi Yanguan, who had often patrolled the mainland for many years, had never been there.
At the border, we only rely on official documents, rumors and discussions to point out all matters on the border and think we are right."
"What's more, those who follow the wind and act like rain, without any evidence in their hands, and with only enthusiasm, gather people together, do things that interfere with the situation, disrupt the court's discussions, and destabilize the court situation, which is really a big harm!"
"I don't want to limit the way of speech. It's just that the imperial court has a broad way of speech, and it is not strictly based on science. However, science and technology have the right to hear rumors and report things. It would be inappropriate if they can continue to discuss the court's affairs at will!"
It should be said that people are not very fond of people who talk about science and education.
Although Wang Ao was able to speak, he must have had a clue in his mind in advance, but when he said these words, he still had some personal emotions.
You must know that when Wang Ao, as the admiral, was inspecting Guangning, he was suddenly attacked by the Walas. He led his troops to defend the city with swords, went to the city wall to supervise the troops, and captured the official school on the spot who persuaded him to abandon the city and retreat. It was a majestic character.
However, after the matter was reported back to the capital, he was impeached by the Yanguan, saying that he had commanded without authorization, violated the law, refused to retreat, and disregarded the lives of the people in the city.
In the end, he was fined half a year's salary.
Later, he specially asked someone to investigate the person who impeached him. It turned out that he was actually a young censor who had never been exposed to military affairs. He listened to a few comments, so he made an appointment with several censors of the same year to participate in the impeachment, which led to the commotion. This happened.
After learning about this situation, Wang Ao had been feeling resentful for a long time. When he spoke about it now, he naturally felt a little more resentful.
Therefore, as he talked, Wang Ao felt unhappy, and he couldn't help but secretly point out the "great achievements" that the censors had almost dismissed.
Of course, Wang Shoufu is definitely not being petty.
It's because these government officials are so reckless that they can pick out a large basket of thorns at will.
Seeing that Chen Yi's face turned a little ugly, Wang Ao paused for a moment, and instead of continuing, he said.
"As for what the General Secretary was worried about just now, the officials of the Ministry of Science and Technology are worried about the heavy restrictions and the fear of being punished, so they hide it and refuse to report anything..."
Wang Shoufu glanced at Wang Wen next to him and said.
"Believe this, Master Tianguan should have something to say!"
"This is dereliction of duty!"
Although there are usually conflicts between the cabinet and the officials, there are still times when the tacit understanding between the two Mr. Wang is enough.
After receiving the signal from Wang Ao, Wang Wen immediately responded with a decisive tone.
"The Yanguan of Kedao has the power to rectify the evils of officials both internally and externally. He should fulfill his duties. What the Chief Assistant just said is not to prohibit the Yanguan from submitting remonstrances. He just wants the Yanguan to think more before giving advice to avoid being criticized. Public opinion coerces and exploits.”
"If the officials of the Department of Science and Technology do not dare to rebuke because of this, then they are derelict in their duties and should be punished!"
Seeing the two men surnamed Wang singing and harmonizing in front of him, Mr. Chen couldn't help but feel speechless.
They had the nerve to say that just now they were talking in general terms, on paper, but in the blink of an eye, they turned into exactly the same rhetoric?
What is dereliction of duty and should be punished?
How to judge this thing and who will define it?
Is it possible that after something goes wrong, we can hold people accountable and punish all the officials who spoke out?
With a slight snort, Chen Yi couldn't help but say with a hint of ridicule in his tone.
"In this way, if your Majesty has made a mistake and the imperial censor dare not report it, but the officials dare to report it, then I will wait and see when one day the Lord Tianguan will directly attack your majesty's fault and convince all the ministers, I will
Officials of other departments should be ashamed to resign, and Lord Tianguan will exercise the power of supervision on their behalf."
It's ridiculous to say this.
Seeing that a quarrel was about to break out, Chen Xun on the side quickly came out to smooth things over and said.
"Master Zongxian, please don't get angry. Master Tianguan has always been like this."
Immediately afterwards, Yu Shiyue also spoke and said.
"What Lord Tianguan just said is indeed inappropriate. It is certainly dereliction of duty to refuse to admonish the emperor even though he knows that the emperor has made mistakes. However, just like the incident of the Supreme Emperor's Northern Expedition, no one dared to say anything beforehand, even though he knew afterward that there was something wrong.
Wrong, but it is too late after all. It is necessary to hold people accountable, but if they can be remonstrated before the Northern Expedition, it will be far more useful to the country and the country than punishing a few censors for dereliction of duty afterwards."
Compared to Chen Xun, although Yu Shiyue was also trying to ease the atmosphere, his attitude was much clearer and his words were well-founded.
In the final analysis, as the saying goes, punishment is not the purpose, what is important is to solve the problem.
Zhu Qiyu listened for a long time and couldn't help feeling a little headache.
Therefore, things in the court are often like this. If you argue and argue, in the end, you will find that you have come back to the original point.
However, to say that nothing is gained does not seem to be purely true.
Zhu Qiyu certainly knew the importance of science and education.
It should be said that the concerns raised by Chen Yi are not unreasonable. On the one hand, it is necessary to control the power of speaking officials, and on the other hand, it is necessary to allow them to dare to speak out. This is a contradiction in itself.
After pondering for a moment, Zhu Qiyu spoke.
"What all the ministers say is reasonable, and the way of speech is smooth, so that the court can be clear and clear. Speaking of officials scientifically is the foundation of the court ethos. Therefore, if you elect someone who is not afraid of the powerful and dares to speak out, the court regulations should also be
I’m giving you preferential treatment here, but what the Heavenly Official and the First Assistant said is right. The combination of talking about government affairs and hearing about affairs, coupled with the mischief of young people, will indeed disturb the court discussions, influence public opinion, and destabilize the court situation.”
"So, in my opinion, what the first assistant said is generally applicable, so the next thing to consider is how to make the speaker dare to speak out and be willing to speak out."
Well, when it comes to whether a bowl of water is fair or not, it has to be Your Majesty!
What he said was so flawless that both sides praised him.
However, after filtering out the useless ones in front, the last two sentences are still worth paying attention to.
In the final analysis, Wang Ao's strategy was approved by the emperor. The so-called generally applicable strategy actually meant that it was basically adopted.
However, in this case, the difficulty becomes even higher.
On the one hand, Yanguan is not allowed to discuss major political affairs at will, and there are heavy restrictions on his discussion on matters concerning the Heavenly Family. On the other hand, Yanguan is required to actively use his actions.
this……
The elders twirled their beards and fell into deep thought, without any good ideas at the moment.
Seeing this situation, Zhu Qiyu was not in a hurry and ordered someone to change them to new tea. Then he thought about it and said.
"Speaking of it, in recent days, the Metropolitan Procuratorate has assisted the Ministry of War in clearing land and reorganizing military settlements, which has been quite effective. It can be seen from this that as long as the censors are willing to work hard, they will be of great benefit to the court."
"Recently, both Jin Shangshu and Yu Shaobao submitted memorials, praising the censors for their ability to do things, for not being afraid of the local powerful clans, and for their character. They also said that without their data on the land measurement, the progress of reorganizing the military settlements would have been very difficult. , it can’t be so fast.”
"Speaking of which, Jin Shangshu actually found a large number of moths that invaded the military villages at the border this time. The last report Jin Shangshu gave me also said that if everything goes well, the border will be cleared in at most two months. Everything will be over, and then we can set off back to Beijing."
"Shen Qing is not here today. If he were here, he would be very happy to see Jin Shangshu's memorial."
The tone of these words was relaxed and somewhat intended to enliven the atmosphere. Thinking of Shen Yi's usual money-obsessed demeanor, the elders couldn't help but smile knowingly.
Indeed, it has been almost a year since the major policy of reorganizing the military settlements has been implemented, and the harvest has been fruitful. It should be said that if this matter is really done, then the pressure on the Ministry of Revenue will be greatly reduced.
After all, in recent years, the military expenditure of the border army has been getting higher and higher. After Shen Shangshu took over the Ministry of Revenue, he suffered a lot for this.
It was rare for the emperor to praise the imperial censor, so naturally the ministers below him could not remain silent.
As the head of the science and technology department, Chen Yi stepped forward and bowed his hand, politely declining a few words, but obviously he did not really mean to refuse. The other ministers did not criticize him, and responded with a few compliments. After some back and forth, the atmosphere in the palace was really relaxed.
However, among so many people, Wang Ao was the only one who frowned and did not speak.
Looking at the few people in front who were being polite to each other, Wang Ao hesitated for a moment, and finally stepped forward.
"Your Majesty, I am bold. The memorial that Jin Shangshu recently submitted to the court does not seem to mention the matter of setting off to return to the capital?"
Of course Wang Ao would not be so stupid as to try to dismantle the emperor.
He said this to verify his conjecture.
As expected, the emperor looked at him thoughtfully, flipped through the memorials beside him, pulled out a memorial, shook it from a distance, but did not let anyone hand it down, and then said.
"It is normal that the cabinet did not receive it. The issue of military settlements is of great importance, so some memorials, Jin Shangshu and Yu Shaobao, were all sent directly to me. In addition to these, Lu Zhong has arranged a lot of things at the border in recent times. The Shaojin Yiwei are used to collect military information, and they will also write secret reports on the organization's status and report them to me."
The right to play directly is not a rare thing.
Most of the ministers present were present. The so-called direct memorial was to deliver the memorial directly to the emperor without going through any yamen.
Although it is said that, as a rule, memorials from officials must be sent to the General Secretary first, then to the cabinet, and then to the imperial court after the draft is drafted.
However, since Emperor Taizu abolished Zhongshu Province, theoretically, under the emperor were the Six Ministries and the Metropolitan Procuratorate.
Both the General Affairs Department and the Cabinet essentially play a mediating role and do not have any decision-making power.
Therefore, even if the memorial is approved directly by the emperor without going through the General Administration Department and the cabinet, it is still a memorial with no problem in the process.
However, unless it is an urgent secret or something that is not convenient for others to know, the bosses usually won't do this.
After all, this is bypassing the cabinet. Although it is reasonable and legal, it will inevitably make the ministers in the cabinet feel resentful.
Moreover, the use of the right of direct performance relies heavily on divine grace.
To put it bluntly, you must be able to see the emperor at any time in order to directly submit the memorial at any time.
Or at least, it would be useful if there were institutions like Jinyiwei or Si Lijian who could directly submit it to the emperor on their behalf.
However, for the ministers, it is better to find the Jin Yiwei and the Supervisor of Ceremonies than the cabinet...
More importantly, one thing about the power of direct reporting is embarrassing, that is, there is no need to bypass the cabinet for small matters. For major matters, even if they are sent directly to the emperor, they still have to go down to the court for discussion, so it is still unnecessary.
For these reasons, the elders present did not make much use of the right to play directly.
Only ministers like Jin Lian and Yu Qian who are not in the capital, and the matters they handle involve confidentiality, will submit the memorial in this way.
Wait a minute...
Not in the capital, involving secrets...
This...why does it sound so familiar...
This chapter has been completed!